CentOS - Jan 2009 - Creating an iso image of a audio CD with K3B

Can you do this?  I have not found the options to get this to happen.

So far I have seen how to read the Audio CD and make a directory of WAV 
files with a control file for later burning to CD, but I want an iso 
image that I can archive and burn audio CDs to use as they get used up.

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Can you do this?  I have not found the options to get this to happen.
> 
> So far I have seen how to read the Audio CD and make a directory of WAV 
> files with a control file for later burning to CD, but I want an iso 
> image that I can archive and burn audio CDs to use as they get used up.
> 
I think cdrdao will do what you want.  It's in the base repository, so 
no extra repos needed.

-- 
Jay Leafey - Memphis, TN
jay.leafey at mindless.com
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Jay Leafey wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> Can you do this?  I have not found the options to get this to happen.
>>
>> So far I have seen how to read the Audio CD and make a directory of 
>> WAV files with a control file for later burning to CD, but I want an 
>> iso image that I can archive and burn audio CDs to use as they get 
>> used up.
>>
>
> I think cdrdao will do what you want.  It's in the base repository, so 
> no extra repos needed.
No, it cannot make an iso image.

I have used it in the past.

Could it be this simple?

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Can you do this?  I have not found the options to get this to happen.
>
> So far I have seen how to read the Audio CD and make a directory of WAV 
> files with a control file for later burning to CD, but I want an iso 
> image that I can archive and burn audio CDs to use as they get used up.
>   
According to: 
http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1209-creating-an-iso-image-under-linux

dd if=/dev/hdd of=mycd.iso

So I figured out that my cdr/dvdr is hdb (k3b tells me so), so I try:


dd if=/dev/hdb of=mycd.iso

and get the errors:

dd: reading `/dev/hdb': Input/output error
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.0468789 seconds, 0.0 kB/s

The gnome panel shows the CD icon but the options are only to play the 
CD or eject it.

I tried a umount /dev/hdb but am told it is not mounted per mtab.

Any ideas?

Hi,

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 19:31, Robert Moskowitz <rgm at htt-consult.com>
wrote:
> So far I have seen how to read the Audio CD and make a directory of WAV
> files with a control file for later burning to CD, but I want an iso
> image that I can archive and burn audio CDs to use as they get used up.
No.

The name "iso" comes from ISO-9660, which is the standard that defines
how *data* CDs work.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660

So, you can only have an "iso" for a data CD, not for an audio CD.

I believe many CD writing programs (especially graphical ones like
Nero) can create a "project" to burn an audio CD, and maybe some of
them can "export" this project in form of one big file that has all
the contents in it, but this file won't be an "iso", it will be an
exported project for that specific program. AFAIK there is no standard
for this, in fact, I don't even know if any of the CD burning programs
actually can do this.

What is it that you're trying to do? If all you want is to distribute
the files as a single big/huge file download, maybe you should create
a zipfile with the wav's inside. It would still require the receiving
end to manually unzip it and burn it, but it might be closer to what
you're trying to accomplish.

HTH,
Filipe

Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 19:31, Robert Moskowitz <rgm at
htt-consult.com> wrote:
>   
>> So far I have seen how to read the Audio CD and make a directory of WAV
>> files with a control file for later burning to CD, but I want an iso
>> image that I can archive and burn audio CDs to use as they get used up.
>>     
>
> No.
>
> The name "iso" comes from ISO-9660, which is the standard that
defines
> how *data* CDs work.
>
> See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660
>
> So, you can only have an "iso" for a data CD, not for an audio
CD.
>
> I believe many CD writing programs (especially graphical ones like
> Nero) can create a "project" to burn an audio CD, and maybe some
of
> them can "export" this project in form of one big file that has
all
> the contents in it, but this file won't be an "iso", it will
be an
> exported project for that specific program. AFAIK there is no standard
> for this, in fact, I don't even know if any of the CD burning programs
> actually can do this.
>   
It seems once upon a time I did this. But as I think about it, it was 
probably a CD of pictures. THat is data...
> What is it that you're trying to do? If all you want is to distribute
> the files as a single big/huge file download, maybe you should create
> a zipfile with the wav's inside. It would still require the receiving
> end to manually unzip it and burn it, but it might be closer to what
> you're trying to accomplish.
I want a single archived file so that as the CD gets used and abused, I 
can easily burn a new one, just as easy it is to make a CD of a data iso 
image.

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 19:31, Robert Moskowitz <rgm at
htt-consult.com> wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> So far I have seen how to read the Audio CD and make a directory of
WAV
>>> files with a control file for later burning to CD, but I want an
iso
>>> image that I can archive and burn audio CDs to use as they get used
up.
>>>     
>>>       
>> No.
>>
>> The name "iso" comes from ISO-9660, which is the standard
that defines
>> how *data* CDs work.
>>
>> See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660
>>
>> So, you can only have an "iso" for a data CD, not for an
audio CD.
>>
>> I believe many CD writing programs (especially graphical ones like
>> Nero) can create a "project" to burn an audio CD, and maybe
some of
>> them can "export" this project in form of one big file that
has all
>> the contents in it, but this file won't be an "iso", it
will be an
>> exported project for that specific program. AFAIK there is no standard
>> for this, in fact, I don't even know if any of the CD burning
programs
>> actually can do this.
>>   
>>     
>
> It seems once upon a time I did this. But as I think about it, it was 
> probably a CD of pictures. THat is data...
>
>   
>> What is it that you're trying to do? If all you want is to
distribute
>> the files as a single big/huge file download, maybe you should create
>> a zipfile with the wav's inside. It would still require the
receiving
>> end to manually unzip it and burn it, but it might be closer to what
>> you're trying to accomplish.
>>     
>
> I want a single archived file so that as the CD gets used and abused, I 
> can easily burn a new one, just as easy it is to make a CD of a data iso 
> image.
Oh, I should add the closest I have come to this is:

cdrdao read-cd --device /dev/hdb --datafile musicimage.bin musicimage-toc

that is 2 files. Then I can burn a CD with:

cdrdao write --device /dev/hdb musicimage-toc

William L. Maltby wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 19:48 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>   
>> Jay Leafey wrote:
>>     
>>> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Can you do this?  I have not found the options to get this to
happen.
>>>>
>>>> So far I have seen how to read the Audio CD and make a
directory of
>>>> WAV files with a control file for later burning to CD, but I
want an
>>>> iso image that I can archive and burn audio CDs to use as they
get
>>>> used up.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I think cdrdao will do what you want.  It's in the base
repository, so
>>> no extra repos needed.
>>>       
>> No, it cannot make an iso image.
>>     
>
> How about "mkisofs"? Part of cdrtools, IIRC.
This is for making a file system into an iso, does not seem to say 
anything about audio CDs.

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>   
>> Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 19:31, Robert Moskowitz <rgm at
htt-consult.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> So far I have seen how to read the Audio CD and make a
directory of WAV
>>>> files with a control file for later burning to CD, but I want
an iso
>>>> image that I can archive and burn audio CDs to use as they get
used up.
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> No.
>>>
>>> The name "iso" comes from ISO-9660, which is the standard
that defines
>>> how *data* CDs work.
>>>
>>> See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660
>>>
>>> So, you can only have an "iso" for a data CD, not for an
audio CD.
>>>
>>> I believe many CD writing programs (especially graphical ones like
>>> Nero) can create a "project" to burn an audio CD, and
maybe some of
>>> them can "export" this project in form of one big file
that has all
>>> the contents in it, but this file won't be an "iso",
it will be an
>>> exported project for that specific program. AFAIK there is no
standard
>>> for this, in fact, I don't even know if any of the CD burning
programs
>>> actually can do this.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> It seems once upon a time I did this. But as I think about it, it was 
>> probably a CD of pictures. THat is data...
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> What is it that you're trying to do? If all you want is to
distribute
>>> the files as a single big/huge file download, maybe you should
create
>>> a zipfile with the wav's inside. It would still require the
receiving
>>> end to manually unzip it and burn it, but it might be closer to
what
>>> you're trying to accomplish.
>>>     
>>>       
>> I want a single archived file so that as the CD gets used and abused, I
>> can easily burn a new one, just as easy it is to make a CD of a data
iso
>> image.
>>     
>
> Oh, I should add the closest I have come to this is:
>
> cdrdao read-cd --device /dev/hdb --datafile musicimage.bin musicimage-toc
>   
So I went ahead and copied the CD with this command. Then I opened k3b 
and started an Audio Project and it did not know what to do with either 
the -toc or the .bin. So I would have to stay with the command line to 
burn a CD.
> that is 2 files. Then I can burn a CD with:
>
> cdrdao write --device /dev/hdb musicimage-toc
>
>
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Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Oh, I should add the closest I have come to this is:
>
> cdrdao read-cd --device /dev/hdb --datafile musicimage.bin musicimage-toc
>
> that is 2 files. Then I can burn a CD with:
>
> cdrdao write --device /dev/hdb musicimage-toc
>   
that sounds very similar to the bin/cue format generated by the formerly 
popular Windows program CDRWIN, and supported by many apps.


does that -toc file look anything like...

|FILE "|musicimage.bin"
|  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 06:42:00
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
...

(random example cribbed from the net)   there are other optional fields.   if it
does, its a .CUE file ala CDRWIN format.




|

John R Pierce wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>   
>> Oh, I should add the closest I have come to this is:
>>
>> cdrdao read-cd --device /dev/hdb --datafile musicimage.bin
musicimage-toc
>>
>> that is 2 files. Then I can burn a CD with:
>>
>> cdrdao write --device /dev/hdb musicimage-toc
>>   
>>     
>
> that sounds very similar to the bin/cue format generated by the formerly 
> popular Windows program CDRWIN, and supported by many apps.
>
>
> does that -toc file look anything like...
>
> |FILE "|musicimage.bin"
> |  TRACK 01 AUDIO
>     INDEX 01 00:00:00
>   TRACK 02 AUDIO
>     INDEX 01 06:42:00
>   TRACK 03 AUDIO
> ...
>
> (random example cribbed from the net)   there are other optional fields.  
if it does, its a .CUE file ala CDRWIN format.

// Track 47
TRACK AUDIO
NO COPY
NO PRE_EMPHASIS
TWO_CHANNEL_AUDIO
FILE "musicimage.bin" 45:48:66 01:09:03