This is something that has been long overdue for me to set up, and how I am looking it hard in the face. Back in '94, I was doing REAL X-Terminals into UNIX systems. Watching simple mouse meanderings eat up all available bandwidth, and forget it if you resized a window and had to download the new font..... So here we are, in the modern times with GNOME (I chose that over KDE, because), and Open Office, Thunderbird, and lots of other nice graphical apps. I want to run the apps on an app server and access them for a thin client. I am familiar with the K12TLSP project, but right now I want to see what I can do myself. What is the minimum X install for the server to run Open Office with the only graphical usage the remote client? I well learned back in '91 when I started with TCP/IP, the TCP Client/Server model and how X-Windows and SNMP ran 'backwards'. That is your device was the Server and the device with the data/app was the client. So in theory, all I would need to have on the Centos Apps server is the X and Gnome client parts and some remote server (like XRDP)? I have the test box sitting here, ready to run an install.... I think it would be so cool, to see my Gnome desktop from the apps server running on my little old Libretto running DSL.
> So here we are, in the modern times with GNOME (I chose that over KDE, > because), and Open Office, Thunderbird, and lots of other nice graphical > apps. > > I want to run the apps on an app server and access them for a thin > client. I am familiar with the K12TLSP project, but right now I want to > see what I can do myself. > > What is the minimum X install for the server to run Open Office with the > only graphical usage the remote client?I don't know about a minimum X install, but I've been very happy with freenx on centos 5, connecting as easily from mac, PC, or linux. in my lab (human brain imaging), we do remote graphics display all the time, openoffice definitely works. I wanted to be able to work from home and X was just crawling along, unusable. with freenx, its almost like sitting at the console. I have my gnome desktop (KDE is also fine) and all the visual goodness that comes with it. my favorite story is an undergrad working in my lab was able to connect over wireless from Argentina to my server in CT USA, pull up images, and do some real work--the point being that its fast and secure. moreover, there is a very helpful FAQ, http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNX best, --Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20070821/12f70ddf/attachment.html>
Robert Moskowitz wrote:> This is something that has been long overdue for me to set up, and how I > am looking it hard in the face. > > Back in '94, I was doing REAL X-Terminals into UNIX systems. Watching > simple mouse meanderings eat up all available bandwidth, and forget it > if you resized a window and had to download the new font..... > > So here we are, in the modern times with GNOME (I chose that over KDE, > because), and Open Office, Thunderbird, and lots of other nice graphical > apps. > > I want to run the apps on an app server and access them for a thin > client. I am familiar with the K12TLSP project, but right now I want to > see what I can do myself.If you want to network-boot your client, k12ltsp is the easy way to go. It also sets up the right defaults for remote X logins even if you don't network boot.> What is the minimum X install for the server to run Open Office with the > only graphical usage the remote client?Gdm needs to be configured to accept remote logins. I think there is a way to disable X on the console while permitting it over the network but I've always had trouble with that and just let the login box come up unused on the console.> I well learned back in '91 when I started with TCP/IP, the TCP > Client/Server model and how X-Windows and SNMP ran 'backwards'. That is > your device was the Server and the device with the data/app was the > client. So in theory, all I would need to have on the Centos Apps > server is the X and Gnome client parts and some remote server (like XRDP)? > > I have the test box sitting here, ready to run an install.... > > I think it would be so cool, to see my Gnome desktop from the apps > server running on my little old Libretto running DSL.If you don't start X automatically on the remote, you can start it with: X -query server_name to log into the server and run the desktop from there. You might also like freenx and the NX client. It is cross-platform, has better remote performance over limited bandwidth, and allows you to suspend and re-connect to running sessions. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com
Jeremy Gray wrote on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:31:15 -0400:> FAQ, http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNXI looked on that page and I see that it integrates with SSH and can use SSL natively. Does NX have any advantages beyond that over VNC? Kai -- Kai Sch?tzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com
Jeremy Gray wrote:> > So here we are, in the modern times with GNOME (I chose that over KDE, > because), and Open Office, Thunderbird, and lots of other nice > graphical > apps. > > I want to run the apps on an app server and access them for a thin > client. I am familiar with the K12TLSP project, but right now I > want to > see what I can do myself. > > What is the minimum X install for the server to run Open Office > with the > only graphical usage the remote client? > > > I don't know about a minimum X install, but I've been very happy with > freenx on centos 5, connecting as easily from mac, PC, or linux. in my > lab (human brain imaging), we do remote graphics display all the time, > openoffice definitely works. I wanted to be able to work from home and > X was just crawling along, unusable. with freenx, its almost like > sitting at the console. I have my gnome desktop (KDE is also fine) and > all the visual goodness that comes with it. my favorite story is an > undergrad working in my lab was able to connect over wireless from > Argentina to my server in CT USA, pull up images, and do some real > work--the point being that its fast and secure. > > moreover, there is a very helpful FAQ, > http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNXDo you run the server in init 5? Or can it run in init 3? Trying to save memory on the server.... But wait, the client has even LESS memory :(
Robert Moskowitz
2007-Aug-29 21:07 UTC
Reopening Remote Desktop Re: [CentOS] Trying to understand Remote desktops
The server is finally up and running (kind of). Now do I have to have X running on the server, or only installed. That is can I run the server at init 3? Scott Moseman wrote:> On 8/21/07, Craig White <craig at tobyhouse.com> wrote: > >>>> FAQ, http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNX >>>> >>> I looked on that page and I see that it integrates with SSH and can use >>> SSL natively. Does NX have any advantages beyond that over VNC? >>> >> FreeNX - it's awesome >> >> > > I finally took the time to install and configure FreeNX. > All that I can say is -- wow! -- remote X is quick now! > > Thanks, > Scott > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > >