hello to all, i am a newbie to CentOS. for my project work i need to have RHEL. so i searched Google for Open alternatives and found CentOS to be most popular. i have used Fedora, the base of RHEL and CentOS. Fedora is the one of the most buggy *NIX distro i have ever seen. since Fedora is the base of RHEL which is the base of CentOS, i just want to know whether CentOS is stable and reliable enough to work with. i will use CentOS primarily for developing softwares and also for watching Bruce Lee's movies ;-) NOTE: please do not take my email is as offense, to be true to you, Fedora just sucks :-( -- http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ -- http://arnuld.blogspot.com/
arnuld wrote:> of RHEL which is the base of CentOS, i just want to know whether > CentOS is stable and reliable enough to work with. i will use CentOSMany organizations and individuals find RHEL and CentOS "stable and reliable enough" to work with. robert
> i have used Fedora, the base of RHEL and CentOS. Fedora is the one of > the most buggy *NIX distro i have ever seen. since Fedora is the base > of RHEL which is the base of CentOS, i just want to know whether > CentOS is stable and reliable enough to work with. i will use CentOS > primarily forIMHO if Fedora is base of RHEL then Ubuntu is base of Debian i think Fedora is test bed for technologies which you will see in RHEL when they grow .. test bed isn not mean to be stable ... -- Petr Kl?ma e-mail: qaxi at seznam.cz
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 05:17:00PM +0530, arnuld wrote:> hello to all, > > i am a newbie to CentOS. for my project work i need to have > RHEL. so i searched Google for Open alternatives and found CentOS to > be most popular. > > i have used Fedora, the base of RHEL and CentOS. Fedora is the one of > the most buggy *NIX distro i have ever seen. since Fedora is the base > of RHEL which is the base of CentOS, i just want to know whether > CentOS is stable and reliable enough to work with. i will use CentOS > primarily for > developing softwares and also for watching Bruce Lee's movies ;-) > > > NOTE: please do not take my email is as offense, to be true to you, > Fedora just sucks :-( >Fedora is more "bleeding edge". RH takes development from Fedora and it eventually ends up in RHEL. CentOS is basically RHEL build from the SRPM's made available by RH. The two should be functionally identical (stability wise as well). FWIW, I use FC6 as my primary desktop. It's quite stable. I wouldn't use it for a server however -- too fast of a moving target. Ray
Around 12:47pm on Monday, June 11, 2007 (UK time), arnuld scrawled:> hello to all,Hello> NOTE: please do not take my email is as offense, to be true to you, > Fedora just sucks :-(If you don't want people to take your email as offensive, then don't write offensive emails. Steve -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? 22:11:43 up 2:50, 0 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20070611/374b4cd5/attachment-0001.sig>
> NOTE: please do not take my email is as offense, to be true to you, > Fedora just sucks :-(You shoudn't have misplaced expectations about something and then say that it "sucks"... (By the way, that expression "sucks"!)
arnuld wrote:> > Fedora is the one of the most buggy *NIX distro i have ever seen.I doubt that Fedora is any more "buggy" than any other Linux distro, since they all share so much code. That makes me wonder what your real complaint is. Some guesses: 1. You just don't like the Red Hat way of system administration. (yum, chkconfig, etc.) In that case, you won't like CentOS. 2. Your "bugs" are due to how often things on Fedora change, breaking other things. In that case, you'll probably love CentOS. Each major release of CentOS lives for many years, overlapped with the previous release. So right now, with CentOS 5.0 just out, we're halfway through CentOS 4.x's lifetime. Each point release of CentOS 4.x only gathers patches to packages that shipped with CentOS 4.0. No new packages will make it into 4.x, and patches to existing versions are always preferred to wholly new versions. The only reason there are even formal releases is so people can deploy new machines without having to download everything that's changed since 4.0. When you have a system that's happily running CentOS 4.x, it's likely to keep running happily forever as long as you stay within the 4.x line. The only time you have a problem will be when 4.9 is eventually released, which will be about the same time as CentOS 6.0. At that point, the Upstream Vendor will stop providing patches to 4.x, so you have to decide whether to stick with 4.9, move to 5.x, or move to 6.0. If it needs to keep running as-is, with minimal meddling, stick with 4.9 and manage any needed patches yourself. If you need some new technology but can't afford much risk, go with 5.x. And if you're prepared to completely rebuild the system if necessary in order to have maximum upside, go with 6.0. When risk can be high, it is very satisfying to have a set of choices like this.
On Monday 11 June 2007 22:00, arnuld <geek.arnuld at gmail.com> wrote:> i am a newbie to CentOS. for my project work i need to have > RHEL. so i searched Google for Open alternatives and found ?CentOS to > be most popular. > > i have used Fedora, the base of RHEL and CentOS. Fedora is the one of > the most buggy *NIX distro i have ever seen. since Fedora is the base > of RHEL which is the base of CentOS, i just want to know whether > CentOS is stable and reliable enough to work with.From one newbie to another, I suggest you look at the CentOS site, in particular the page http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=3 As I understand it, RHEL is not based on Fedora. Fedora is something of a testbed for things that often appear in future versions of RHEL, so the resemblance is not surprising. RHEL is industrial strength Linux and so does not have the latest but still wobbly innovations. What it does have is good and stable, and quite recent enough for most purposes. CentOS takes the RHEL source code, which is Open Source, and compiles it as CentOS. They aim to make it totally compatible with RHEL. CentOS is as stable as RHEL, and has what looks like a better update/upgrade process. If your project is on RHEL, then CentOS is the tool for you, just make sure you install the matching version.
ROFL. You admit to being a noob and then trying to tell us Fedora is a buggy distro? Sorry dude, but you're just plain wrong - Fedora does NOT suck. FC is generally a bleeding-edge distro, so some updates will break things. FWIW, since FC6 is nearing the end of line, it is very stable, whereas Fedora7 is experimental. Even though I use Centos on my desktops and servers, I use FC6 on my laptops. I do a yum update every day or two, and nothing has broken for the past few months at least. Even on Centos, some updates can break things. I remember evolution getting broken in centos (and RH) several months ago. The difference between a stable system and an unstable one is quite often the person sitting in front of the keyboard and monitor. Please dont embarrass yourself in future by making public announcements like this until you have some reasonable experience under your belt.
arnuld wrote:> hello to all, > > i am a newbie to CentOS. for my project work i need to have > RHEL. so i searched Google for Open alternatives and found CentOS to > be most popular. > > i have used Fedora, the base of RHEL and CentOS. Fedora is the one of > the most buggy *NIX distro i have ever seen. since Fedora is the base > of RHEL which is the base of CentOS, i just want to know whether > CentOS is stable and reliable enough to work with. i will use CentOS > primarily for > developing softwares and also for watching Bruce Lee's movies ;-)So RHEL is your fixed platform/environment?> > > NOTE: please do not take my email is as offense, to be true to you, > Fedora just sucks :-( >Depends on what parts of it you are using imho.