Presumably, the CentOS 4.3 update is not far away. I have CentOS on several servers now and am doing automatic updates. What can I excpect when the actual update gets pushed? Is there an inclrease in the number of patches? Does it happen all in one day? And if so, how much notice do I have? Although I asked on the list a while back, I got some answers that implied said that at update time, bug fix patches are released and at other times only security patches. But I also got a couple of answers that implied that the quarterly update was just a CD that brought the distro up to date with the already issued patches. Sorry to keep beating on this issue, but I want to avoid surprises. Thanks, Steve
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 10:05 -0600, Steve Bergman wrote:> Presumably, the CentOS 4.3 update is not far away. I have CentOS on > several servers now and am doing automatic updates. What can I excpect > when the actual update gets pushed? Is there an inclrease in the number > of patches? Does it happen all in one day? And if so, how much notice > do I have? > > Although I asked on the list a while back, I got some answers that > implied said that at update time, bug fix patches are released and at > other times only security patches. But I also got a couple of answers > that implied that the quarterly update was just a CD that brought the > distro up to date with the already issued patches. Sorry to keep > beating on this issue, but I want to avoid surprises.The answer is: It depends :) The upstream provider will push security updates as part of the new update release set ... as well as bugfix and enhancement updates. Sometimes the security updates depend on bugfix updates or enhancement updates, sometimes they don't. If there are some very serious security issues that don't have a huge dependency chain on bugfix and enhancement updates ... we might release those security updates before we release the rest of the updates. On the last major update, all the security updates depended on other items and we released everything at the same time ... just like the upstream provider did. On the first update cycle, we released some security updates first and then released the rest of the update set as a group. Basically, you can plan for the worse case, that all the updates will hit on the same update cycle when we release them. That is the way it happens upstream. If you run RHN after the upstream provider releases their update ... there is no security updates only or security and bugfix updates only ... if the updates are released they are updated on your system, end of story. We will mimic that behavior unless there is a critical security update that we can release by itself. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20060214/67a9edbc/attachment-0002.sig>
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 10:05 -0600, Steve Bergman wrote:> Presumably, the CentOS 4.3 update is not far away. I have CentOS on > several servers now and am doing automatic updates. What can I excpect > when the actual update gets pushed? Is there an inclrease in the number > of patches? Does it happen all in one day? And if so, how much notice > do I have? > > Although I asked on the list a while back, I got some answers that > implied said that at update time, bug fix patches are released and at > other times only security patches. But I also got a couple of answers > that implied that the quarterly update was just a CD that brought the > distro up to date with the already issued patches. Sorry to keep > beating on this issue, but I want to avoid surprises.Oh ... AND The point release ALSO results in the release of a new bootable ISO. This ISO will be the only one available via the CentOS mirrors after the release. The older release ISOs and trees will be moved to http://vault.centos.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20060214/b5b66657/attachment-0002.sig>
Johnny Hughes wrote:>The answer is: > >It depends :) > > >Thank you. That makes everything quite clear. ;-) I guess my next, and hopefully last, question is "how should I prepare for this?". I have been quite pleased with the results of turning on the automatic nightly yum update on my CentOS machines. (I do not do this on my Fedora servers.) However, I am nervous about autoupdating during this possibly more turbulent period. I guess an announcement will go out that 4.3 is coming and I can turn off autoupdates at that time? Looking at the dates in the CentOS 4.2 main repo, it looks like the updates occurred in three batches at 7 day intervals. But I'm not sure I can trust those dates to be a representation of what actually happened when. Since I'm a CentOS newbie and no one else seems to be all that worried, I'm thinking that I might be making a big fuss over nothing. (And please do tell me if I am.) I have clients that would be calling me if they have problems, but I'm not running any nuclear power plants or anything. Anyway, thanks for making this distro possible. -Steve