Pasi Kärkkäinen
2017-Aug-30 20:10 UTC
[CentOS-virt] Status of reverted Linux patch "tty: Fix ldisc crash on reopened tty", Linux 4.9 kernel frequent crashes
Hello everyone, Recently Nathan March reported on centos-virt list he's getting frequent Linux kernel crashes with Linux 4.9 LTS kernel because of the missing patch "tty: Fix ldisc crash on reopened tty". The patch was already merged upstream here: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=71472fa9c52b1da27663c275d416d8654b905f05 but then reverted here: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=896d81fefe5d1919537db2c2150ab6384e4a6610 Nathan confirmed if he applies the patch from 71472fa9c52b1da27663c275d416d8654b905f05 to his Linux 4.9 LTS kernel the bug/problem goes away, so the patch (or similar fix) is still needed, at least for 4.9 LTS kernel. Mikulas reported he's able to trigger the same crash on Linux 4.10: https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2440637.html https://lists.gt.net/linux/kernel/2664604?search_string=ldisc%20reopened;#2664604 Michael Neuling reported he's able to trigger the bug on PowerPC: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/3/10/1582 So now the question is.. is anyone currently working on getting this patch fixed and applied upstream? I think one of the problems earlier was being able to reliable reproduce the crash.. Nathan says he's able to reproduce it many times per week on his environment on x86_64. Thanks a lot, -- Pasi
Kevin Stange
2017-Aug-30 20:56 UTC
[CentOS-virt] Status of reverted Linux patch "tty: Fix ldisc crash on reopened tty", Linux 4.9 kernel frequent crashes
On 08/30/2017 03:10 PM, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:> Hello everyone, > > Recently Nathan March reported on centos-virt list he's getting frequent Linux kernel crashes with Linux 4.9 LTS kernel because of the missing patch "tty: Fix ldisc crash on reopened tty". > > The patch was already merged upstream here: > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=71472fa9c52b1da27663c275d416d8654b905f05 > > but then reverted here: > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=896d81fefe5d1919537db2c2150ab6384e4a6610 > > Nathan confirmed if he applies the patch from 71472fa9c52b1da27663c275d416d8654b905f05 to his Linux 4.9 LTS kernel the bug/problem goes away, so the patch (or similar fix) is still needed, at least for 4.9 LTS kernel. > > > Mikulas reported he's able to trigger the same crash on Linux 4.10: > https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2440637.html > https://lists.gt.net/linux/kernel/2664604?search_string=ldisc%20reopened;#2664604 > > Michael Neuling reported he's able to trigger the bug on PowerPC: > https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/3/10/1582 > > > So now the question is.. is anyone currently working on getting this patch fixed and applied upstream? I think one of the problems earlier was being able to reliable reproduce the crash.. Nathan says he's able to reproduce it many times per week on his environment on x86_64.I looked briefly at the patch and related discussion on the kernel mailing lists and it seemed to be reverted not due to any problems it caused with kernel behavior but rather due to concerns about insufficient review before it was committed and possible merge conflicts. The issue is the problem doesn't appear to have been discussed any further on the kernel mailing lists since April, and I'm not sure why. My inclination would be to start back up discussion upstream and try to get clarification as to why the patch has remained reverted and there's been no effort to bring it back into the kernel, rather than assume the patch is safe to use. I doubt anyone else but people experiencing the issue have it up on their radar. The 4.9 virt kernel does have some patches currently that haven't (yet) been accepted upstream, so it's definitely an option to do that here. As far as I know, nothing really gets pushed back upstream. Most often the patches are just plucked from upstream mailing lists before they get merged into an official upstream release. -- Kevin Stange Chief Technology Officer Steadfast | Managed Infrastructure, Datacenter and Cloud Services 800 S Wells, Suite 190 | Chicago, IL 60607 312.602.2689 X203 | Fax: 312.602.2688 kevin at steadfast.net | www.steadfast.net
Johnny Hughes
2017-Sep-02 13:12 UTC
[CentOS-virt] Status of reverted Linux patch "tty: Fix ldisc crash on reopened tty", Linux 4.9 kernel frequent crashes
On 08/30/2017 03:10 PM, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:> Hello everyone, > > Recently Nathan March reported on centos-virt list he's getting frequent Linux kernel crashes with Linux 4.9 LTS kernel because of the missing patch "tty: Fix ldisc crash on reopened tty". > > The patch was already merged upstream here: > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=71472fa9c52b1da27663c275d416d8654b905f05 > > but then reverted here: > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=896d81fefe5d1919537db2c2150ab6384e4a6610 > > Nathan confirmed if he applies the patch from 71472fa9c52b1da27663c275d416d8654b905f05 to his Linux 4.9 LTS kernel the bug/problem goes away, so the patch (or similar fix) is still needed, at least for 4.9 LTS kernel. > > > Mikulas reported he's able to trigger the same crash on Linux 4.10: > https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2440637.html > https://lists.gt.net/linux/kernel/2664604?search_string=ldisc%20reopened;#2664604 > > Michael Neuling reported he's able to trigger the bug on PowerPC: > https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/3/10/1582 > > > So now the question is.. is anyone currently working on getting this patch fixed and applied upstream? I think one of the problems earlier was being able to reliable reproduce the crash.. Nathan says he's able to reproduce it many times per week on his environment on x86_64. >I have no issues rolling this patch in , while we wait on upstream, if it makes our tree more stable. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-virt/attachments/20170902/e3e213c7/attachment-0002.sig>
Pasi Kärkkäinen
2017-Sep-03 12:10 UTC
[CentOS-virt] Status of reverted Linux patch "tty: Fix ldisc crash on reopened tty", Linux 4.9 kernel frequent crashes
On Sat, Sep 02, 2017 at 08:12:53AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 08/30/2017 03:10 PM, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > Recently Nathan March reported on centos-virt list he's getting frequent Linux kernel crashes with Linux 4.9 LTS kernel because of the missing patch "tty: Fix ldisc crash on reopened tty". > > > > The patch was already merged upstream here: > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=71472fa9c52b1da27663c275d416d8654b905f05 > > > > but then reverted here: > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=896d81fefe5d1919537db2c2150ab6384e4a6610 > > > > Nathan confirmed if he applies the patch from 71472fa9c52b1da27663c275d416d8654b905f05 to his Linux 4.9 LTS kernel the bug/problem goes away, so the patch (or similar fix) is still needed, at least for 4.9 LTS kernel. > > > > > > Mikulas reported he's able to trigger the same crash on Linux 4.10: > > https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2440637.html > > https://lists.gt.net/linux/kernel/2664604?search_string=ldisc%20reopened;#2664604 > > > > Michael Neuling reported he's able to trigger the bug on PowerPC: > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/3/10/1582 > > > > > > So now the question is.. is anyone currently working on getting this patch fixed and applied upstream? I think one of the problems earlier was being able to reliable reproduce the crash.. Nathan says he's able to reproduce it many times per week on his environment on x86_64. > > > > I have no issues rolling this patch in , while we wait on upstream, if > it makes our tree more stable. >I think we should do that.. What do others think? Thanks, -- Pasi
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