asterisk users - Oct 2007 - Secondary Dialtone and selecting a specific line from Zap/g

I need to select a line from the Zap group channel
using the SIP Phone (not FXO and not FXS ports).

ignorepat does not work?

Also, what is the method to let the second dial tone
has another tone frequency?

Regards
Bilal

----------------
No, ignorepat is for FXS ports (FXS ports use FXO
signaling).  Also, 
ignorepat does not apply to SIP phones, because SIP
phones provide
 their 
own dialtone, not a dialtone provided by Asterisk.

Al lists wrote:
> Correction, on FXO port not FXS,
> second, read his email first:
> "Also, how it will be possible to assign an
dedicated
> line (connected to FXO) to an
> button on the Polycom IP Phone or Broadtel IP Phone,
> so if user select that button
> then he will be sure that his outside call will be
via
> that specific line."
> Just assign a key on your phone to dial that
extension, and you will
 have
> dial tone on selected line,
> then as a traditional PBX you can send any digits to
your provider.
> 
> 
> On 10/1/07, Eric ManxPower Wieling <eric at fnords.org>
wrote:
>> ignorepat continues dialtone after a leading digit
has been dialed
 on
>> FXS ports.  How does ignorepat help this guy?
>>
>> Al lists wrote:
>>> ignorpat is your friend
>>>
>>> On 9/30/07, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 02:34:01AM -0700, bilal
ghayyad wrote:
>>>>> Dear List;
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I place a call via Zap/g1 (group) but
need to
>>>>> determine the line (FXO port)
>>>>> that will go via it?
>>>> Simply don't use groups. Use channels directly.
To dial via the
>> specific
>>>> Zaptel channel NN, use Zap/NN
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing anything?



       
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I can't help you with that.  I only wanted to point out that ignoreopat 
is not what you need.

On Polycom SIP phones you continue dialtone by placing a , in the 
phone's dialplan.  SIP phones have their own internal dialplan that is 
not part of Asterisk's dialplan.  You would have to check the docs for 
your phone.  Not all SIP phones can continue dialtone.

bilal ghayyad wrote:
> I need to select a line from the Zap group channel
> using the SIP Phone (not FXO and not FXS ports).
> 
> ignorepat does not work?
> 
> Also, what is the method to let the second dial tone
> has another tone frequency?
> 
> Regards
> Bilal
> 
> ----------------
> No, ignorepat is for FXS ports (FXS ports use FXO
> signaling).  Also, 
> ignorepat does not apply to SIP phones, because SIP
> phones provide
>  their 
> own dialtone, not a dialtone provided by Asterisk.
> 
> Al lists wrote:
>> Correction, on FXO port not FXS,
>> second, read his email first:
>> "Also, how it will be possible to assign an
> dedicated
>> line (connected to FXO) to an
>> button on the Polycom IP Phone or Broadtel IP Phone,
>> so if user select that button
>> then he will be sure that his outside call will be
> via
>> that specific line."
>> Just assign a key on your phone to dial that
> extension, and you will
>  have
>> dial tone on selected line,
>> then as a traditional PBX you can send any digits to
> your provider.
>>
>> On 10/1/07, Eric ManxPower Wieling <eric at fnords.org>
> wrote:
>>> ignorepat continues dialtone after a leading digit
> has been dialed
>  on
>>> FXS ports.  How does ignorepat help this guy?
>>>
>>> Al lists wrote:
>>>> ignorpat is your friend
>>>>
>>>> On 9/30/07, Tzafrir Cohen
> <tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 02:34:01AM -0700, bilal
> ghayyad wrote:
>>>>>> Dear List;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I place a call via Zap/g1 (group) but
> need to
>>>>>> determine the line (FXO port)
>>>>>> that will go via it?
>>>>> Simply don't use groups. Use channels directly.
> To dial via the
>>> specific
>>>>> Zaptel channel NN, use Zap/NN
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I missing anything?

It would be ugly, but you could prefix a zap channel or group number 
before the phone number to dial.  Using groups for an example:

exten => _*X*X.,1,Dial(ZAP/g${EXTEN:1:1}/${EXTEN:3})
exten => _*XX*X.,1,Dial(ZAP/g${EXTEN:1:2}/${EXTEN:4})

so dialing *4*18005551212 dials out over zap group 4...


bilal ghayyad wrote:
> I need to select a line from the Zap group channel
> using the SIP Phone (not FXO and not FXS ports).
>
> ignorepat does not work?
>
> Also, what is the method to let the second dial tone
> has another tone frequency?
>
> Regards
> Bilal
>
> ----------------
> No, ignorepat is for FXS ports (FXS ports use FXO
> signaling).  Also, 
> ignorepat does not apply to SIP phones, because SIP
> phones provide
>  their 
> own dialtone, not a dialtone provided by Asterisk.
>
> Al lists wrote:
>   
>> Correction, on FXO port not FXS,
>> second, read his email first:
>> "Also, how it will be possible to assign an
>>     
> dedicated
>   
>> line (connected to FXO) to an
>> button on the Polycom IP Phone or Broadtel IP Phone,
>> so if user select that button
>> then he will be sure that his outside call will be
>>     
> via
>   
>> that specific line."
>> Just assign a key on your phone to dial that
>>     
> extension, and you will
>  have
>   
>> dial tone on selected line,
>> then as a traditional PBX you can send any digits to
>>     
> your provider.
>   
>> On 10/1/07, Eric ManxPower Wieling <eric at fnords.org>
>>     
> wrote:
>   
>>> ignorepat continues dialtone after a leading digit
>>>       
> has been dialed
>  on
>   
>>> FXS ports.  How does ignorepat help this guy?
>>>
>>> Al lists wrote:
>>>       
>>>> ignorpat is your friend
>>>>
>>>> On 9/30/07, Tzafrir Cohen
>>>>         
> <tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
>   
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 02:34:01AM -0700, bilal
>>>>>           
> ghayyad wrote:
>   
>>>>>> Dear List;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I place a call via Zap/g1 (group) but
>>>>>>             
> need to
>   
>>>>>> determine the line (FXO port)
>>>>>> that will go via it?
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Simply don't use groups. Use channels directly.
>>>>>           
> To dial via the
>   
>>> specific
>>>       
>>>>> Zaptel channel NN, use Zap/NN
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I missing anything?
>>>>>           
>
>
>
>
>        
>
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Dear Mojo;

That is primary fine, but there are two issues looking
for help about them:

1) Based on your below example (dialing *4*18005551212
to select channel 4), the question is how to give
second dial tone just after dialing the *4*
(indicating the channel was captured)?

2) How to let this second dial tone to be with a
frequency differs than normal tone when pickup the
handset to place a call?

3) How to let (assign) one of the button on my IP
Phone to be dedicating for a zap channel, so when I
select this button and do dialing for a number, then
call will be done via that specific zap channel. 

Any help?
Regards
Bilal 
-----------------------------

It would be ugly, but you could prefix a zap channel
or group number 
before the phone number to dial.  Using groups for an
example:

exten => _*X*X.,1,Dial(ZAP/g${EXTEN:1:1}/${EXTEN:3})
exten => _*XX*X.,1,Dial(ZAP/g${EXTEN:1:2}/${EXTEN:4})

so dialing *4*18005551212 dials out over zap group
4...


bilal ghayyad wrote:
> I need to select a line from the Zap group channel
> using the SIP Phone (not FXO and not FXS ports).
>
> ignorepat does not work?
>
> Also, what is the method to let the second dial tone
> has another tone frequency?
>
> Regards
> Bilal


       
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Dear Walt;

Maybe I did not understand any thing from below :) -

Are you talking about configuration to be done on the
Telephone device is self or on the AVAYA server it
self? If it is on the telephone device, so how you
will give a second dial tone and you do not know if
there is available channel :) -  

I am looking to have a second dial tone by doing such
configuration at AVAYA server itself, and that to be
used by all users of different IP Phones models (not
link sys only).

Can you help?
Regards
Bilal




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For another tone frequency for the outside dialtone,
try putting this
value "0 at 0,350 at -14,440 at -14;*(.4/0/1),10(*/0/2+3)" in
the Outside 
Dialtone field. It will give you a slight pause
followed by a different
dialtone frequency. On a Linksys/Siprua 941, that
would be at the top
of the Regional page.

However, you won't hear any secondary dialtone unless
you put a comma
after EVERY initial '9' in the dialplan string for
each line in use.
On a 941, that would be at the bottom of the Ext 1 and
Ext 2 pages of 
the web interface. I suggest the dialplan string of:
(*xx|[1-7]xx|9,[3469]11|98|99|9,[2-9]xxxxxx|9,11|9,[2-9]xxxxxx|9,1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx|9,011xxxxxxxxxxx.)

- Walt Joyce


Eric "ManxPower" Wieling wrote:
> I can't help you with that.  I only wanted to point
out that
 ignoreopat 
> is not what you need.
> 
> On Polycom SIP phones you continue dialtone by
placing a , in the 
> phone's dialplan.  SIP phones have their own
internal dialplan that
 is 
> not part of Asterisk's dialplan.  You would have to
check the docs
 for 
> your phone.  Not all SIP phones can continue
dialtone.
> 
> bilal ghayyad wrote:
> 
>>I need to select a line from the Zap group channel
>>using the SIP Phone (not FXO and not FXS ports).
>>
>>ignorepat does not work?
>>
>>Also, what is the method to let the second dial tone
>>has another tone frequency?
>>
>>Regards
>>Bilal


       
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