Hi, Does anyone know of a way to get a dry copper pair (also known as an alarm line) from Verizon for less than $20/end? I know we have been able to get them, but they come out to $40/month for a circuit.. and there's no dial-tone over it!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070511/ce07ca0e/attachment.htm
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:36:46PM -0400, Matt wrote:> Does anyone know of a way to get a dry copper pair (also known as an alarm > line) from Verizon for less than $20/end? I know we have been able to get > them, but they come out to $40/month for a circuit.. and there's no > dial-tone over it!!!!Yeah; that's called "F U" pricing. Why would they want to sell you *that*? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
You might be able to try ordering it from a CLEC that can provision it over UNE and sell it for considerably less. Depending on your area, their interconnection agreement, tariffs, etc. So, your mileage may vary. On Fri, 11 May 2007, Matt said something to this effect:> Hi, > Does anyone know of a way to get a dry copper pair (also known as an alarm > line) from Verizon for less than $20/end? I know we have been able to get > them, but they come out to $40/month for a circuit.. and there's no > dial-tone over it!!!! >-- Alex Balashov <sasha@presidium.org>
> Hi, > Does anyone know of a way to get a dry copper pair (also known as an alarm > line) from Verizon for less than $20/end? I know we have been able to > get > them, but they come out to $40/month for a circuit.. and there's no > dial-tone over it!!!!around here (Canada) its a tariffed service and I think its about $16 or $18 for the whole thing (both ends). you just have to spend $200 of time on the phone to find someone who knows what you are talking about first. its also referred to as DVACS up here but that's really what's on it, not the pair itself. There may also be some magic used to aggregate the low speed serial channels into a single TDM higher speed circuit. if you are planning on running your own g.hdsl or something like that, I'd love to hear how many cable feet you have and what sort of results you get if you finally get something hooked up. around here you are pretty much limited to adsl, single pair hdsl delivering T1, or analog lines, no more isdn bri's, none of the fancier dsl variations. Other than that you can experiment with dry copper, or try to get fibre if its available.> _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com
Matt et al, Can you still do ?homebrew? PTP T1 in the U.S. this way? I thought this was nixed by the ILEC/CLECs years ago. John Treble Ottawa, Canada ________________________________________ From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: May 11, 2007 2:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Dry Copper Pair Hi, Does anyone know of a way to get a dry copper pair (also known as an alarm line) from Verizon for less than $20/end??? I know we have been able to get them, but they come out to $40/month for a circuit.. and there's no dial-tone over it!!!!