Adthrawn
2004-Jan-18 17:54 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Now: Small Biz Robust Asterisk Solution - SBRAS
> Tilghman Lesher wrote: >> On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:01, Adthrawn wrote: >> >>> Spell out RAID - Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. Bingo. >> >> >> That's "Independent Disks". It's the independence of each spindle >> that >> is valued, not the cost proposition. If one spindle goes, it's not >> all >> of your data which goes with it. Consider that many (most?) SCSI >> disks >> aren't inexpensive. >> > > The original meaning of the acronym was "Inexpensive," IIRC. It was > later changed to allow either meaning of the word. I just checked; it > is "inexpensive" in both of my CS architecture textbooks. > > A nit, I know, but I don't want Adthrawn to get a complex :-):-p The whole point of RAID originally (and I'm talking nineties RAID) was to give small businesses the chance at having low-cost centralized mass storage. One volume made from multiple disks, with the unique ability to keep either stripped or mirrored backups - fantastic. And it came as a free add-on for Apple Servers (yippee!). SCSI disks are cheap if the work you're doing is expensive. :-) Ad. PS SCSI is sooo yesterday. We're onto Serial ATA, and lot's of it. We're just about to buy a 3.5TB SAN RAID array which is built from Serial ATA's. And it's fast. Plus damn cheap. And Apple of course :-)
Peter Kao
2004-Jan-18 18:35 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Now: Small Biz Robust Asterisk Solution - SBRAS
Hi, Has anyone experienced * hang/exit when issuing - asterisk -r -x reload Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adthrawn" <adthrawn@adthrawn.freeserve.co.uk> To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 4:54 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Now: Small Biz Robust Asterisk Solution - SBRAS> > > > Tilghman Lesher wrote: > >> On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:01, Adthrawn wrote: > >> > >>> Spell out RAID - Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. Bingo. > >> > >> > >> That's "Independent Disks". It's the independence of each spindle > >> that > >> is valued, not the cost proposition. If one spindle goes, it's not > >> all > >> of your data which goes with it. Consider that many (most?) SCSI > >> disks > >> aren't inexpensive. > >> > > > > The original meaning of the acronym was "Inexpensive," IIRC. It was > > later changed to allow either meaning of the word. I just checked; it > > is "inexpensive" in both of my CS architecture textbooks. > > > > A nit, I know, but I don't want Adthrawn to get a complex :-) > > :-p > > The whole point of RAID originally (and I'm talking nineties RAID) was > to give small businesses the chance at having low-cost centralized mass > storage. One volume made from multiple disks, with the unique ability > to keep either stripped or mirrored backups - fantastic. And it came as > a free add-on for Apple Servers (yippee!). > > SCSI disks are cheap if the work you're doing is expensive. :-) > > Ad. > > PS SCSI is sooo yesterday. We're onto Serial ATA, and lot's of it. > We're just about to buy a 3.5TB SAN RAID array which is built from > Serial ATA's. And it's fast. Plus damn cheap. And Apple of course :-) > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Paul Mahler
2004-Jan-18 22:37 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Now: Small Biz Robust Asterisk Solution - SBRAS
I didn't think any of the manufacturers are shipping native serial ATA disks yet. I think all the disks have hardware to convert from IDE to serial ATA, thus there is no real advantage yet, just greater expense. Paul Mahler mail:pmahler@signate.com phone: 650.207.9855 fax: 877.408.0105 -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Adthrawn Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 4:54 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Now: Small Biz Robust Asterisk Solution - SBRAS> Tilghman Lesher wrote: >> On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:01, Adthrawn wrote: >> >>> Spell out RAID - Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. Bingo. >> >> >> That's "Independent Disks". It's the independence of each spindle >> that >> is valued, not the cost proposition. If one spindle goes, it's not >> all >> of your data which goes with it. Consider that many (most?) SCSI >> disks >> aren't inexpensive. >> > > The original meaning of the acronym was "Inexpensive," IIRC. It was > later changed to allow either meaning of the word. I just checked; it > is "inexpensive" in both of my CS architecture textbooks. > > A nit, I know, but I don't want Adthrawn to get a complex :-):-p The whole point of RAID originally (and I'm talking nineties RAID) was to give small businesses the chance at having low-cost centralized mass storage. One volume made from multiple disks, with the unique ability to keep either stripped or mirrored backups - fantastic. And it came as a free add-on for Apple Servers (yippee!). SCSI disks are cheap if the work you're doing is expensive. :-) Ad. PS SCSI is sooo yesterday. We're onto Serial ATA, and lot's of it. We're just about to buy a 3.5TB SAN RAID array which is built from Serial ATA's. And it's fast. Plus damn cheap. And Apple of course :-) _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Hi!> Has anyone experienced * hang/exit when issuing - > asterisk -r -x reloadYes, see also here and add your comments if applicable: http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000725 Philipp P.S.: Next time please open a new top posting when you create a new topic instead of replying to a totally different issue.