hello, i ran a glmer for binomial data, with one (ordered) between and one within subjects factor. now i was thinking of how to plot my dependent. i plotted the probablities (p=X(incidents)/n(observations)) for each group of the between factor in a line chart, with its corresponding standard deviations. these are huge. my model though yielded good effects, due to regarding the between factor. now i wondered if it's the best solution to show the sd's which might be somewhat misleading for represantation of data analysed with a mixed model allowing for within subjects random factors. is there a recommended way for represantation of data in such context. tahnks a lot for any advise, kay -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/graphical-data-representation-after-glmm-glmer-tp1836819p1836819.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.