I initially thought, this should better be posted to r-devel but alas! no response. so I try it here. sory for the lengthy explanation but it seems unavoidable. to quickly see the problem simply copy the litte example below and execute f(n=5) which crashes. called with n != 5 (and of course n>3 since there are 3 parameters in the model...) everything is as it should be. in detail: I stumbled over the follwing _very_ strange behaviour/error when using `nls' which I'm tempted (despite the implied "dangers") to call a bug: I've written a driver for `nls' which allows specifying the model and the data vectors using arbitrary symbols. these are internally mapped to consistent names, which poses a slight complication when using `deriv' to provide analytic derivatives. the following fragment gives the idea: #----------------------------------------- f <- function(n = 4) { x <- seq(0, 5, length = n) y <- 2 * exp(-1*x) + 2; y <- rnorm(y,y, 0.01*y) model <- y ~ a * exp (-b*x) + c fitfunc <- deriv(model[[3]], c("a", "b", "c"), c("a", "b", "c", "x")) #"standard" call of nls: res1 <- nls(y ~ fitfunc(a, b, c, x), start = c(a=1, b=1, c=1)) call.fitfunc <- c(list(fitfunc), as.name("a"), as.name("b"), as.name("c"), as.name("x")) call.fitfunc <- as.call(call.fitfunc) frml <- as.formula("y ~ eval(call.fitfunc)") #"computed" call of nls: res2 <- nls(frml, start = c(a=1, b=1, c=1)) list(res1 = res1, res2 = res2) } #----------------------------------------- the argument `n' defines the number of (simulated) data points x/y which are going to be fitted by some model ( here y ~ a*exp(-b*x)+c ) the first call to `nls' is the standard way of calling `nls' when knowing all the variable and parameter names. the second call (yielding `res2') uses a constructed formula in `frml' (which in this example is of course not necessary, but in the general case 'a,b,c,x,y' are not a priori known names). now, here is the problem: the call f(4) runs fine/consistently, as does every call with n > 5. BUT: for n = 5 (i.e. issuing f(5)) the second fit leads to the error message: "Error in model.frame(formula, rownames, variables, varnames, extras, extranames, : invalid type (language) for variable 'call.fitfunc'" I cornered this to a spot in `nls' where a model frame is constructed in variable `mf'. the parsing/constructing here seems simply to be messed up for n = 5: `call.fitfunc' is interpreted as variable. I, moreover, empirically noted that the problem occurs when the total number of parameters plus dependent/independent variables equals the number of data points (in the present example a,b,c,x,y). so it is not the 'magic' number of 5 but rather the identity of data vector length and number of parameters+variables in the model which leads to the problem. this is with 2.5.0 (which hopefully is not considered ancient) and MacOSX 10.4.10. any ideas? thanks joerg
I can confirm this behavior on R-2.6.0 but don't have time to look into it further at the moment. On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, Joerg van den Hoff wrote:> > I initially thought, this should better be posted to r-devel > but alas! no response. so I try it here. sory for the > lengthy explanation but it seems unavoidable. to quickly see > the problem simply copy the litte example below and execute > > f(n=5) > > which crashes. called with n != 5 (and of course n>3 since > there are 3 parameters in the model...) everything is as it > should be. > > in detail: > I stumbled over the follwing _very_ strange behaviour/error > when using `nls' which I'm tempted (despite the implied > "dangers") to call a bug: > > I've written a driver for `nls' which allows specifying the > model and the data vectors using arbitrary symbols. these > are internally mapped to consistent names, which poses a > slight complication when using `deriv' to provide analytic > derivatives. the following fragment gives the idea: > > #----------------------------------------- > f <- function(n = 4) { > > x <- seq(0, 5, length = n) > > y <- 2 * exp(-1*x) + 2; > y <- rnorm(y,y, 0.01*y) > > model <- y ~ a * exp (-b*x) + c > > fitfunc <- deriv(model[[3]], c("a", "b", "c"), c("a", "b", "c", "x")) > > #"standard" call of nls: > res1 <- nls(y ~ fitfunc(a, b, c, x), start = c(a=1, b=1, c=1)) > > call.fitfunc <- > c(list(fitfunc), as.name("a"), as.name("b"), as.name("c"), as.name("x")) > call.fitfunc <- as.call(call.fitfunc) > frml <- as.formula("y ~ eval(call.fitfunc)") > > #"computed" call of nls: > res2 <- nls(frml, start = c(a=1, b=1, c=1)) > > list(res1 = res1, res2 = res2) > } > #----------------------------------------- > > the argument `n' defines the number of (simulated) data > points x/y which are going to be fitted by some model ( here > y ~ a*exp(-b*x)+c ) > > the first call to `nls' is the standard way of calling `nls' > when knowing all the variable and parameter names. > > the second call (yielding `res2') uses a constructed formula > in `frml' (which in this example is of course not necessary, > but in the general case 'a,b,c,x,y' are not a priori known > names). > > now, here is the problem: the call > > f(4) > > runs fine/consistently, as does every call with n > 5. > > BUT: for n = 5 (i.e. issuing f(5)) > > the second fit leads to the error message: > > "Error in model.frame(formula, rownames, variables, varnames, extras, extranames, : > invalid type (language) for variable 'call.fitfunc'" > > I cornered this to a spot in `nls' where a model frame is > constructed in variable `mf'. the parsing/constructing here > seems simply to be messed up for n = 5: `call.fitfunc' is > interpreted as variable. > > I, moreover, empirically noted that the problem occurs when > the total number of parameters plus dependent/independent > variables equals the number of data points (in the present > example a,b,c,x,y). > > so it is not the 'magic' number of 5 but rather the identity > of data vector length and number of parameters+variables in > the model which leads to the problem. > > this is with 2.5.0 (which hopefully is not considered > ancient) and MacOSX 10.4.10. > > any ideas? > > thanks > > joerg > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >
On 11/12/2007 6:51 AM, Joerg van den Hoff wrote:> I initially thought, this should better be posted to r-devel > but alas! no response.I think the reason there was no response is that your example is too complicated. You're doing a lot of strange things (fitfunc as a result of deriv, using as.name, as.call, as.formula, etc.) You should simplify it down to isolate the bug. Thats a lot of work, but you're the one in the best position to do it. I'd say there's at least an even chance that the bug is in your code rather than in nls(). And 2.5.0 *is* ancient; please confirm the bug exists in R-patched if it turns out to be an R bug. Duncan Murdoch so I try it here. sory for the> lengthy explanation but it seems unavoidable. to quickly see > the problem simply copy the litte example below and execute > > f(n=5) > > which crashes. called with n != 5 (and of course n>3 since > there are 3 parameters in the model...) everything is as it > should be. > > in detail: > I stumbled over the follwing _very_ strange behaviour/error > when using `nls' which I'm tempted (despite the implied > "dangers") to call a bug: > > I've written a driver for `nls' which allows specifying the > model and the data vectors using arbitrary symbols. these > are internally mapped to consistent names, which poses a > slight complication when using `deriv' to provide analytic > derivatives. the following fragment gives the idea: > > #----------------------------------------- > f <- function(n = 4) { > > x <- seq(0, 5, length = n) > > y <- 2 * exp(-1*x) + 2; > y <- rnorm(y,y, 0.01*y) > > model <- y ~ a * exp (-b*x) + c > > fitfunc <- deriv(model[[3]], c("a", "b", "c"), c("a", "b", "c", "x")) > > #"standard" call of nls: > res1 <- nls(y ~ fitfunc(a, b, c, x), start = c(a=1, b=1, c=1)) > > call.fitfunc <- > c(list(fitfunc), as.name("a"), as.name("b"), as.name("c"), as.name("x")) > call.fitfunc <- as.call(call.fitfunc) > frml <- as.formula("y ~ eval(call.fitfunc)") > > #"computed" call of nls: > res2 <- nls(frml, start = c(a=1, b=1, c=1)) > > list(res1 = res1, res2 = res2) > } > #----------------------------------------- > > the argument `n' defines the number of (simulated) data > points x/y which are going to be fitted by some model ( here > y ~ a*exp(-b*x)+c ) > > the first call to `nls' is the standard way of calling `nls' > when knowing all the variable and parameter names. > > the second call (yielding `res2') uses a constructed formula > in `frml' (which in this example is of course not necessary, > but in the general case 'a,b,c,x,y' are not a priori known > names). > > now, here is the problem: the call > > f(4) > > runs fine/consistently, as does every call with n > 5. > > BUT: for n = 5 (i.e. issuing f(5)) > > the second fit leads to the error message: > > "Error in model.frame(formula, rownames, variables, varnames, extras, extranames, : > invalid type (language) for variable 'call.fitfunc'" > > I cornered this to a spot in `nls' where a model frame is > constructed in variable `mf'. the parsing/constructing here > seems simply to be messed up for n = 5: `call.fitfunc' is > interpreted as variable. > > I, moreover, empirically noted that the problem occurs when > the total number of parameters plus dependent/independent > variables equals the number of data points (in the present > example a,b,c,x,y). > > so it is not the 'magic' number of 5 but rather the identity > of data vector length and number of parameters+variables in > the model which leads to the problem. > > this is with 2.5.0 (which hopefully is not considered > ancient) and MacOSX 10.4.10. > > any ideas? > > thanks > > joerg > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.