Dear Madam or Sir, I need to do multiple comparisons following nlme analysis (Compare the effects of different treatments on a response measured repeatedly over time; fixed = response ~ treat*time). On the web I found the notion that one might use the L argument from ANOVA. Do you have an example to show how this works together with nlme? Are there other ways to do a post-hoc analysis in nlme? Thank you very much. Stefan Uhlig Prof. Dr.Stefan Uhlig Head Division Pulmonary Pharmacology Research Center Borstel Leibniz Center for Medicine and Biosciences 23845 Borstel Germany Tel. 04537-188 478 FAX 04537- 188 778 suhlig@fz-borstel.de [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
> I need to do multiple comparisons following nlme analysis (Compare > the effects of different treatments on a response measured > repeatedly over time; > fixed = response ~ treat*time).If you have an interaction it does not really make sense to conduct a multiple comparison because the difference in treatment depends on time, i.e. this presumed post-hoc test could only give you a correct result for one of your points in time. Why not conduct this analysis and then interpret the pattern based on the estimates of your parameters and/or on a graphical display of your data? If your interaction is non-significant and you drop it, you still have a mulitvariate problem and I have never come across a multiple comparison test for such multivariate problems (but perhaps someone else has a pointer). In your case it might be enough to carefully decide on how the set contrasts. Then, an additional issue would be what kind of multiple comparisons to conduct (for univarite anova's there are at least a dozen methods). You can always conduct several to see which of the comparisons are highly significant and which ones might not be so strong. But usually you do not learn more than what you get when you interpret your parameters and/or graphs of your data. ... and by the way, I guess your model is using lme (linear mixed effects model) in package nlme and not actually an nlme (non-linear mixed effects model) itself. Regards, Lorenz - Lorenz Gygax, Dr. sc. nat. Centre for proper housing of ruminants and pigs Swiss Federal Veterinary Office, agroscope FAT T?nikon
Rogers, James A [PGRD Groton]
2005-Jan-11 15:08 UTC
[R] Multiple comparisons following nlme
> I need to do multiple comparisons following nlme analysis (Compare > the effects of different treatments on a response measured > repeatedly over time; > fixed = response ~ treat*time).I don't believe there exists a nice interface for doing this, but you can do it "by hand". You need to obtain the point estimates of contrasts of interest, and the estimated covariance matrix for those estimates. You can then use these as arguments to csimint() in the multcomp package. --Jim James A. Rogers Manager, Nonclinical Statistics PGR&D Groton Labs Eastern Point Road (MS 8260-1331) Groton, CT 06340 office: (860) 686-0786 fax: (860) 715-5445 LEGAL NOTICE\ Unless expressly stated otherwise, this messag...{{dropped}}