Hi all, Does it make sense to learn Ruby if one doesn''t know html? Or would you recommend to learn html as a base? I''m so impressed with the Ruby on Rails demos I saw... I''d love to be able to develop such apps -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I just bought the Learn to Program by Chris Pine. I''m only a few chapters into it and its been fun so far! I''m not a programmer but so far, so good. Also, your going to need HTML background for anything you do on the web. TJ altar an wrote:>Hi all, >Does it make sense to learn Ruby if one doesn''t know html? >Or would you recommend to learn html as a base? >I''m so impressed with the Ruby on Rails demos I saw... I''d love to be >able to develop such apps > > >
You should probably learn some Ruby outside of rails to get started. Rails requires some understanding of databases, the MVC design pattern and Ruby (obviously), besides HTML. You can learn Rails and HTML together assuming you have some programming background. I''d recommend the Head First HTML/CSS book, it''s really clear and will take you pretty far, and would strongly recommend Agile Programming with Rails. On 4/6/06, altar an <altar.an@laposte.net> wrote:> > Hi all, > Does it make sense to learn Ruby if one doesn''t know html? > Or would you recommend to learn html as a base? > I''m so impressed with the Ruby on Rails demos I saw... I''d love to be > able to develop such apps > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060407/3113868b/attachment.html
you only need know html basic skills, no more. altar an escribi?:> Hi all, > Does it make sense to learn Ruby if one doesn''t know html? > Or would you recommend to learn html as a base? > I''m so impressed with the Ruby on Rails demos I saw... I''d love to be > able to develop such apps > >
altar an wrote:> Hi all, > Does it make sense to learn Ruby if one doesn''t know html? > Or would you recommend to learn html as a base? > I''m so impressed with the Ruby on Rails demos I saw... I''d love to be > able to develop such appsThey are completely different things, each one very useful but not necessary together. HTML is a markup language, which means it just controls the structure of web pages. If you''re going to be working on the web, with Ruby on Rails or any other web language, knowing HTML is essential. Also learn CSS, Cascading Style Sheets, which is the presentation language controlling the way HTML documents *look* on the web. Ruby is a programming language, which is much different. It''s a great language, so if you want to program, then certainly Ruby is an excellent choice. If you''re going to be using Ruby on Rails, then knowing Ruby is also essential and you should learn Ruby before beginning with Rails. In short, if you''re using Ruby on Rails, then yes, it''s essential to know Ruby, Rails, HTML and CSS. If you just want to write programs, then Rails, HTML and CSS aren''t essential. Jeff Coleman -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
altar an wrote:> Hi all, > Does it make sense to learn Ruby if one doesn''t know html? > Or would you recommend to learn html as a base? > I''m so impressed with the Ruby on Rails demos I saw... I''d love to be > able to develop such appsIf you are interested in web apps, then just dive right in. You can''t learn the server side of cgi unless you have the client side to interact with and you''ll get bored real fast if you only learn html. Try not to think of them as seperate entities. You''ll definately need to learn them both. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Thanks for all the good advice. So I''d better learn html, css and then Ruby -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I disagree. Anyone who is going to write web applications in *any* language should take the time to learn (x)html and css properly and thoroughly. This includes a lot of xml stuff too like entities, document types, etc. It is truly sad how little respect there is in the world for lowly html. b Fernando Martin Palermo wrote:> you only need know html basic skills, no more. > > > > altar an escribi?: > >> Hi all, >> Does it make sense to learn Ruby if one doesn''t know html? >> Or would you recommend to learn html as a base? >> I''m so impressed with the Ruby on Rails demos I saw... I''d love to be >> able to develop such apps >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
You don''t need to learn any of them first. Though if you are already a programmer and you don''t know html and css you will find it frustrating (well I did, I spend the majority of my time trying to get styles right) What you need is a project, an itch to scratch, something your NEED to get done. If you have that you''ll work out the rest. altar an wrote:>Hi all, >Does it make sense to learn Ruby if one doesn''t know html? >Or would you recommend to learn html as a base? >I''m so impressed with the Ruby on Rails demos I saw... I''d love to be >able to develop such apps > > >