Rails - Jun 2006 - Ideal Ruby on Rails Development Environment on Linux

Hello,

    I''m not a developer myself, but I work for a hosting company that 
tries to cater to the needs of developers and basically right now I am 
trying to create a hosting platform that will be perfect for ruby 
developers. This is a linux VPS service and I create the base templates 
to make the system look however i want it after install.
    I was hoping some of you could give me some ideas on what you would 
like to see from a development environment. Here''s what i have so far 
and any ideas are welcome:

-Latest Ruby (obvious)
-Latest Rails (obvious)
-Latest Gems (obvious)
-The default webserver document root is set up as an empty rails 
application
-Latest MySQL Database Set Up and Running (Obvious)
-Apache configured for rails (obvious)
-Vim installed with vim-ruby installed via gems (dont know if this is 
useful?)

and thats about it from what I could think of, are there any other nice 
apps that you would like to have or maybe some ultra common 
configuration that you always have to do that could be done 
automatically.

Thanks--
--Dustan

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Subversion with a quick update feature.

?? Would there be one app per account, or multiple?
-L

On 6/29/06, Dustan <spam@linuxevolution.net>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>     I''m not a developer myself, but I work for a hosting company
that
> tries to cater to the needs of developers and basically right now I am
> trying to create a hosting platform that will be perfect for ruby
> developers. This is a linux VPS service and I create the base templates
> to make the system look however i want it after install.
>     I was hoping some of you could give me some ideas on what you would
> like to see from a development environment. Here''s what i have so
far
> and any ideas are welcome:
>
> -Latest Ruby (obvious)
> -Latest Rails (obvious)
> -Latest Gems (obvious)
> -The default webserver document root is set up as an empty rails
> application
> -Latest MySQL Database Set Up and Running (Obvious)
> -Apache configured for rails (obvious)
> -Vim installed with vim-ruby installed via gems (dont know if this is
> useful?)
>
> and thats about it from what I could think of, are there any other nice
> apps that you would like to have or maybe some ultra common
> configuration that you always have to do that could be done
> automatically.
>
> Thanks--
> --Dustan
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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Best Regards,
-Larry
"Work, work, work...there is no satisfactory alternative."
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Larry Kelly wrote:
> Subversion with a quick update feature.
> 
> ?? Would there be one app per account, or multiple?
>
I will be adding subversion, Thanks for the tip.
   There will be no limit to the number of running applications (no 
practical limit at least, the theoretical limit would be 2048 sites I 
guess based on how the system is set up, but realistically i doubt 
anyone would even consider that many :-D ) The limitations are more on 
system resources such as disk space, CPU, memory, etc but you can do 
anything you wish with those resources.

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As mentioned before Subversion
Capistrano
Apache with mod_proxy_balancer
Mongrel
Mongrel_cluster

That should allow fairly serious application development and deployment.

Ross

On 6/29/06, Dustan <spam@linuxevolution.net>
wrote:
> Larry Kelly wrote:
> > Subversion with a quick update feature.
> >
> > ?? Would there be one app per account, or multiple?
> >
>
> I will be adding subversion, Thanks for the tip.
>    There will be no limit to the number of running applications (no
> practical limit at least, the theoretical limit would be 2048 sites I
> guess based on how the system is set up, but realistically i doubt
> anyone would even consider that many :-D ) The limitations are more on
> system resources such as disk space, CPU, memory, etc but you can do
> anything you wish with those resources.
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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Dustan wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>     I''m not a developer myself, but I work for a hosting company
that
> tries to cater to the needs of developers and basically right now I am 
> trying to create a hosting platform that will be perfect for ruby 
> developers. This is a linux VPS service and I create the base templates 
> to make the system look however i want it after install.
>     I was hoping some of you could give me some ideas on what you would 
> like to see from a development environment. Here''s what i have so
far
> and any ideas are welcome:
> 
> -Latest Ruby (obvious)
> -Latest Rails (obvious)
> -Latest Gems (obvious)
> -The default webserver document root is set up as an empty rails 
> application
> -Latest MySQL Database Set Up and Running (Obvious)
> -Apache configured for rails (obvious)
> -Vim installed with vim-ruby installed via gems (dont know if this is 
> useful?)
> 
> and thats about it from what I could think of, are there any other nice 
> apps that you would like to have or maybe some ultra common 
> configuration that you always have to do that could be done 
> automatically.
> 
> Thanks--
> --Dustan
What''s the intended usage? Shared hosting for live testing and 
production use?

If that''s the case I think you will want to provide capistrano tasks to
handle deployment and configure your document root appropriately to 
handle it.

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Dustan,

I think Postgresql would be a nice addition.  I for one use it a lot, but
finding web hosts that support it is difficult.  Also, the phpMyAdmin and
phpPgAdmin are nice-to-have''s (no flames from the hard-core console
users please ;-)

Anyway, that''s my contribution.  Good luck with your effort, and post
back once it''s alive.

Nathan

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Subject: [Rails] Ideal Ruby on Rails Development Environment on Linux


Hello,

    I''m not a developer myself, but I work for a hosting company that 
tries to cater to the needs of developers and basically right now I am 
trying to create a hosting platform that will be perfect for ruby 
developers. This is a linux VPS service and I create the base templates 
to make the system look however i want it after install.
    I was hoping some of you could give me some ideas on what you would 
like to see from a development environment. Here''s what i have so far 
and any ideas are welcome:

-Latest Ruby (obvious)
-Latest Rails (obvious)
-Latest Gems (obvious)
-The default webserver document root is set up as an empty rails 
application
-Latest MySQL Database Set Up and Running (Obvious)
-Apache configured for rails (obvious)
-Vim installed with vim-ruby installed via gems (dont know if this is 
useful?)

and thats about it from what I could think of, are there any other nice 
apps that you would like to have or maybe some ultra common 
configuration that you always have to do that could be done 
automatically.

Thanks--
--Dustan

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Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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+1 on Nathan''s and Ross''s comments.

-- 
Andrew Stone

On 6/29/06, Andrew Stone <stonelists@gmail.com>
wrote:
> +1 on Nathan''s and Ross''s comments.

Ditto.  Postgresql has become a lot more popular in the last couple of years.

What about lighttpd?

On 6/29/06, snacktime <snacktime@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 6/29/06, Andrew Stone <stonelists@gmail.com> wrote:
> > +1 on Nathan''s and Ross''s comments.
>
>
> Ditto.  Postgresql has become a lot more popular in the last couple of
> years.
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Stephen Smith wrote:
> What about lighttpd?
See this blog article:

http://duncandavidson.com/essay/2006/06/webaspipe

I would rather see mongrel.

Regards,
Blair

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Hi Blair,

Well, yeah. Me too.

But I already run apps on lighttpd, and there''s probably room for
lighttpd
in between apache and mongrel. Don''t you think so?

- S

On 6/29/06, Blair Zajac <blair@orcaware.com>
wrote:
>
> Stephen Smith wrote:
> > What about lighttpd?
>
> See this blog article:
>
> http://duncandavidson.com/essay/2006/06/webaspipe
>
> I would rather see mongrel.
>
> Regards,
> Blair
>
> --
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> <blair@orcaware.com>
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On 6/29/06, Stephen Smith <4fires@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> Hi Blair,
>
> Well, yeah. Me too.
>
> But I already run apps on lighttpd, and there''s probably room for
lighttpd
> in between apache and mongrel. Don''t you think so?
>
> - S
>
Do phpMyAdmin and phpPgAdmin run on lighttpd?
-L

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On Thu Jun 29, 2006 at 05:43:18PM -0700, Larry Kelly
wrote:
> On 6/29/06, Stephen Smith <4fires@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hi Blair,
> >
> >Well, yeah. Me too.
> >
> >But I already run apps on lighttpd, and there''s probably room
for lighttpd
> >in between apache and mongrel. Don''t you think so?
> >
> >- S
> >
> 
> Do phpMyAdmin and phpPgAdmin run on lighttpd?
yep. and websvn, and all the other little php apps that make development
easier/better/faster/convenient

i suspect it wouldnt be too hard to get mongrel to exec php-cgi, although i
havent investigated
> -L
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In my opinion, if you are going to be running apache and "something",
let it
be apache and mongrel. Seems like the best option if you already have an
established server that has been running apache, bunch of php/perl apps,
etc, in a multi-host environment. If you have the luxury of getting away
with running one (new server setup), then probably go with lighttpd because
then you can use php.

 

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On 6/29/06, Stephen Smith <4fires@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Blair,

 

Well, yeah. Me too. 

 \

But I already run apps on lighttpd, and there''s probably room for
lighttpd
in between apache and mongrel. Don''t you think so?


- S


Do phpMyAdmin and phpPgAdmin run on lighttpd? 
-L

 

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