Denny Schierz
2007-Jul-23 16:18 UTC
[Xen-users] searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware
hi, for my home "testcenter" i''m searching for a mainboard and CPU to get xen HVM running. So i still don''t need a blade or something else ;-) What can i buy, without rob a bank? But please, no via/apollo/sis Chipset :-) cu denny _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Kenneth Younger
2007-Jul-23 20:24 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware
Denny, I would look into possibly getting one of the new Pentium D''s with VT. Have a look at which ones have VT: http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/pentium_d.htm The 940 will run you about $100 from a recent search of Pricewatch. It is also dual core, which is really helpful when running VMs. Don''t know what to tell you for the chipset, but the Intel chipsets usually do well. Just check out which the computer you are buying has, or just click the right link if you are purchasing the motherboard yourself :) This is actually what I plan on getting working within the next few months (Unless something better is in the same price range by then). -Ken>>> <xen-users-request@lists.xensource.com> 7/23/2007 3:10 PM >>>Send Xen-users mailing list submissions to xen-users@lists.xensource.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.xensource.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xen-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body ''help'' to xen-users-request@lists.xensource.com You can reach the person managing the list at xen-users-owner@lists.xensource.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Xen-users digest..." Today''s Topics: 1. searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware (Denny Schierz) 2. Re: problem with booting domU via NFS root (ardy mardy) 3. 2.6.23 as domU kernel possible? (Peter Braun) 4. Re: problem with booting domU via NFS root (Steve Kemp) 5. Live migration into a local machine (Claris Castillo) 6. NetBSD as domU - cnopen console device (Oliver Kowalke) 7. Re: problem with booting domU via NFS root (ardy mardy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:18:24 +0200 From: Denny Schierz <linuxmail@4lin.net> Subject: [Xen-users] searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware To: "''xen-users@lists.xensource.com''" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Message-ID: <46A4D4D0.4000603@4lin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" hi, for my home "testcenter" i''m searching for a mainboard and CPU to get xen HVM running. So i still don''t need a blade or something else ;-) What can i buy, without rob a bank? But please, no via/apollo/sis Chipset :-) cu denny -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/attachments/20070723/ce98933d/signature.pgp ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:26:08 -0400 From: "ardy mardy" <ardelicious@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] problem with booting domU via NFS root To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Message-ID: <4b65b5090707231026g70f0dbc9ub0e18dac0e5fa7bb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks Steve. For some reason I don''t have the CONFIG_ROOT_NFS option in my kernel. My problem is much the same as the one described on this page: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-337239-highlight-.html?sid=f0de502989c707746fcebef76a1267d1 However, I had all the following enabled but still to no avail: CONFIG_IP_PNP=y CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP=yCONFIG_IP_PNP=y CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP=y CONFIG_IP_PNP_BOOTP=y CONFIG_IP_PNP_RARP=y CONFIG_IP_PNP_BOOTP=y CONFIG_IP_PNP_RARP=y I also tried "make CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y world" and no luck there either. Thanks, Ardy On 7/22/07, Steve Kemp <steve@steve.org.uk> wrote:> > On Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 20:37:12 -0400, xen xen wrote: > > > mount: unknown filesystem type ''nfs'' > > There''s your error. > > > And these are the related modules I have in/boot/config-2.6.18-xen:> > CONFIG_NFS_FS=m > > CONFIG_NFS_V3=y > > CONFIG_NFS_V3_ACL=y > > CONFIG_NFS_V4=y > > CONFIG_NFS_DIRECTIO=y > > CONFIG_NFSD=m > > CONFIG_NFSD_V2_ACL=y > > CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y > > CONFIG_NFSD_V3_ACL=y > > CONFIG_NFSD_V4=y > > CONFIG_NFSD_TCP=y > > CONFIG_NFS_ACL_SUPPORT=m > > CONFIG_NFS_COMMON=y > > You need "CONFIG_ROOT_NFS" - that allows the root filesystem to > come from NFS. > > This article gives a brief overview from the last time I did this, > obviously not your distribution but it might be helpful: > > http://www.debian ( http://www.debian/)-administration.org/articles/505> > Steve > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/attachments/20070723/d8be5af7/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:35:47 +0200 From: "Peter Braun" <xenware@gmail.com> Subject: [Xen-users] 2.6.23 as domU kernel possible? To: "Xen users mailing list" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Message-ID: <acbf498f0707231035o48c22865q2a54ef040403b5fe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, based on this message: http://blogs.xensource.com/simon/?p=21 shall I understand it that way that it is possible to run 2.6.23 kernel domU under 2.6.18 dom0 host now? Br Peter ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:36:45 +0100 From: Steve Kemp <steve@steve.org.uk> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] problem with booting domU via NFS root To: ardy mardy <ardelicious@gmail.com> Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Message-ID: <20070723183644.GA1809@steve.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 13:26:08 -0400, ardy mardy wrote:> I also tried "make CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y world" and no luck thereeither. I pointed you at an article describing where to enable the relevant option. The Gentoo page you reference also describes where to enable the option. Typing random commands and expecting it to work by magic isn''t going to get you anywhere. Follow the instructions in the Xen README for building a kernel: # make linux-2.6-xen-config CONFIGMODE=menuconfig # make linux-2.6-xen-build # make linux-2.6-xen-install When you''re in the "menuconfig" stage enable: Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP: kernel level autoconfiguration Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP: DHCP Support File Systems ---> Network File Systems ---> Root file system on NFS > Once you do that you''ll have a working system. Simply by following instructions. No magic! Steve -- ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:02:03 -0400 From: Claris Castillo <ccastil@us.ibm.com> Subject: [Xen-users] Live migration into a local machine To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Message-ID: <OF8CCDF092.7184E9E5-ON85257321.00675781-85257321.00688F74@us.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I was wondering if is it possible to perform a "live migration" into the same host of the original VM. The reason why ones would like to do this is because at the end of the "Stop-and-copy" stage of the live migration process there are two consistent suspended copy of the VM at both A and B (original and target host), In cases where applications can afford a downtime on the scale of nanoseconds this seems to be better option than doing hot backups (using REDO files at least). Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks cc ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:43:03 +0200 From: Oliver Kowalke <oliver.kowalke@gmx.de> Subject: [Xen-users] NetBSD as domU - cnopen console device To: "Xen users mailing list" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Message-ID: <200707232343.03261.oliver.kowalke@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I want to full virtualize NetBSD 3.1 (64bit) on Linux (64bit) with xen 3.1. but NetBSD reboots during installation process after printing error: no /dev/console cnopen console devide How can I fix this? regards, Oliver kernel = ''/usr/lib/xen-ioemu-3.1/boot/hvmloader'' builder = ''hvm'' memory = ''1024'' device_model = ''/usr/lib/xen-ioemu-3.1/bin/qemu-dm'' disk = [ ''phy:/dev/volg0/lvol7,ioemu:hda,w'', ''file:/opt/netbsd/amd64cd-3.1.iso,ioemu:hdc:cdrom,r'' ] name = ''nbsd-64'' vif = [ ''type=ioemu, bridge=xenbr2'' ] audio=1 soundhw=''es1370'' boot=''d'' vnc=0 sdl=1 on_reboot=''restart'' vnclisten="0.0.0.0" usb=1 usbdevice=''tablet'' ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:09:27 -0400 From: "ardy mardy" <ardelicious@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] problem with booting domU via NFS root To: "Steve Kemp" <steve@steve.org.uk>, xen-users@lists.xensource.com Message-ID: <4b65b5090707231309o6ac2bfa5i5f3fce256643e360@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks. I apologize if I was n''t clear enough in my previous post. When I get into the menuconfig stage ( after "make linux-2.6-xen-configCONFIGMODE=menuconfig" as you also suggested), I don''t see an option for enabling CONFIG_ROOT_NFS. The Gentoo page also starts by saying this option did not exist for the user at the menuconfig stage, not until the the following options were set: Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP: kernel level autoconfiguration Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP: DHCP Support However, even by having the above options set, I still do n''t have a away to set CONFIG_ROOT_NFS! This is my view of options in File Systems -> Network File Systems: x x <M> NFS file system support x x x x [*] Provide NFSv3 client support x x x x [*] Provide client support for the NFSv3 ACL protocol extension x x x x [*] Provide NFSv4 client support (EXPERIMENTAL) x x x x [*] Allow direct I/O on NFS files (EXPERIMENTAL) x x x x <M> NFS server support x x x x [*] Provide NFSv3 server support x x x x [*] Provide server support for the NFSv3 ACL protocol extension x x x x [*] Provide NFSv4 server support (EXPERIMENTAL) x x x x --- Provide NFS server over TCP support x x x x --- Secure RPC: Kerberos V mechanism (EXPERIMENTAL) x x x x <M> Secure RPC: SPKM3 mechanism (EXPERIMENTAL) x x x x <M> SMB file system support (to mount Windows shares etc.) x x x x [*] Use a default NLS x x x x (cp850) Default Remote NLS Option x x x x <M> CIFS support (advanced network filesystem for Samba, Window and other CIFS complix x x x [*] CIFS statistics x x x x [ ] Extended statistics x x x x [ ] Support legacy servers which use weaker LANMAN security x x <M> CIFS support (advanced network filesystem for Samba, Window and other CIFS complix x x x [*] CIFS statistics x x x x [ ] Extended statistics x x x x [ ] Support legacy servers which use weaker LANMAN security x x x x [*] CIFS extended attributes x x x x [*] CIFS POSIX Extensions x x x x [ ] Enable additional CIFS debugging routines x x x x [ ] CIFS Experimental Features (EXPERIMENTAL) x x x x <M> NCP file system support (to mount NetWare volumes) x x x x [*] Packet signatures x x x x [*] Proprietary file locking x x x x [*] Clear remove/delete inhibit when needed x x x x [*] Use NFS namespace if available x x x x [*] Use LONG (OS/2) namespace if available x x x x [*] Lowercase DOS filenames x x x x [*] Use Native Language Support x x x x [*] Enable symbolic links and execute flags x x x x <M> Coda file system support (advanced network fs) x x x x [ ] Use 96-bit Coda file identifiers x x x x <M> Andrew File System support (AFS) (Experimental) x x x x <M> Plan 9 Resource Sharing Support (9P2000) (Experimental) x x And the reason I tried "make CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y world" was the following post: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2006-08/msg00711.html I''m no linux/xen expert, but I know this much that there is no magic. That''s why I looked around for a solution. Thanks to you and others on the list for taking the time to help beginners like me despite our stupid questions/problems! On 7/23/07, Steve Kemp <steve@steve.org.uk> wrote:> > On Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 13:26:08 -0400, ardy mardy wrote: > > > I also tried "make CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y world" and no luck thereeither.> > I pointed you at an article describing where to enable therelevant> option. The Gentoo page you reference also describes where toenable> the option. Typing random commands and expecting it to work bymagic> isn''t going to get you anywhere. > > Follow the instructions in the Xen README for building a kernel: > > # make linux-2.6-xen-config CONFIGMODE=menuconfig > # make linux-2.6-xen-build > # make linux-2.6-xen-install > > When you''re in the "menuconfig" stage enable: > > Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options --->IP:> kernel level autoconfiguration > Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options --->IP:> DHCP Support > File Systems ---> Network File Systems ---> Root file system on NFS > > > Once you do that you''ll have a working system. Simply byfollowing> instructions. No magic! > > Steve > -- >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thomas King
2007-Jul-24 12:32 UTC
[Xen-users] Re: searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware
I am running XEN on SLES 10 sp1 with ASUS M2NPV-VM MotherBoard ($105) http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=101&l3=296&l4=0&model=1138&modelmenu=2 Bios 0901 AMD X2 3600+ processor ($65) SATA2 160GB HDD , IDE CD-Rom The only issue had was that when booting to XEN I sometimes loose the mouse. Setting option = SWcursor in the device section of xorg.conf fixed it. I bought this board as I saw several posts in the list stating they had no issues. I have only run SLES & SLED and Dos under Xen so far. Thomas> Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:18:24 +0200 > From: Denny Schierz <linuxmail@4lin.net> > Subject: [Xen-users] searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware > To: "''xen-users@lists.xensource.com''" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> > Message-ID: <46A4D4D0.4000603@4lin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > hi, > > for my home "testcenter" i''m searching for a mainboard and CPU to get > xen HVM running. So i still don''t need a blade or something else ;-) > What can i buy, without rob a bank? > > But please, no via/apollo/sis Chipset :-) > > cu denny_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Mark Williamson
2007-Jul-24 15:20 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Re: searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware
Both my development machine and my test box are Dell Dimensions (of different generations) from Dell''s online direct outlet. I believe they''re refurbished models. The newer one I bought has an AMD-V processor, the older one is pre-HVM. I''ve been pleased with Dell hardware, although the OEM copy of Windows you get is a bit of a pain to use! Cheers, Mark On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Thomas King wrote:> I am running XEN on SLES 10 sp1 with > > ASUS M2NPV-VM MotherBoard ($105) > http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=101&l3=296&l4=0&model=1138&modelme >nu=2 Bios 0901 > AMD X2 3600+ processor ($65) > SATA2 160GB HDD , IDE CD-Rom > > The only issue had was that when booting to XEN I sometimes loose the > mouse. > Setting option = SWcursor in the device section of xorg.conf fixed it. > I bought this board as I saw several posts in the list stating they had no > issues. > I have only run SLES & SLED and Dos under Xen so far. > > Thomas > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:18:24 +0200 > > From: Denny Schierz <linuxmail@4lin.net> > > Subject: [Xen-users] searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware > > To: "''xen-users@lists.xensource.com''" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> > > Message-ID: <46A4D4D0.4000603@4lin.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > > > hi, > > > > for my home "testcenter" i''m searching for a mainboard and CPU to get > > xen HVM running. So i still don''t need a blade or something else ;-) > > What can i buy, without rob a bank? > > > > But please, no via/apollo/sis Chipset :-) > > > > cu denny-- Dave: Just a question. What use is a unicyle with no seat? And no pedals! Mark: To answer a question with a question: What use is a skateboard? Dave: Skateboards have wheels. Mark: My wheel has a wheel! _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Denny Schierz
2007-Jul-24 17:20 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Re: searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware
hi, Thomas King schrieb:> ASUS M2NPV-VM MotherBoard ($105) > http://ca.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=101&l3=296&l4=0&model=1138&modelmenu=2 > Bios 0901 > AMD X2 3600+ processor ($65) > SATA2 160GB HDD , IDE CD-Romoh, it seems to be ok, so, if nobody says, it isn''t the right hardware for running xen, i would like to buy it. thanks cu denny _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Denny Schierz
2007-Jul-24 20:42 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Re: searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware
hi, Mark Williamson schrieb:> I''ve been pleased with Dell hardware, although the OEM copy of Windows you get > is a bit of a pain to use!thanks for this hint, but i would never buy a "black box" (ok, only a white box, with a apple on the top ;-) ..). I prefer to build my own machine :-) cu denny _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Denny Schierz
2007-Jul-26 19:11 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Re: searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware
hi, Denny Schierz schrieb:> Mark Williamson schrieb: > >> I''ve been pleased with Dell hardware, although the OEM copy of Windows you get >> is a bit of a pain to use! > > thanks for this hint, but i would never buy a "black box" (ok, only a > white box, with a apple on the top ;-) ..). I prefer to build my own > machine :-)i''ve decided to buy a AMD-X2 BE2350, 2GB Ram and the Asus M2NPV-VM mainboard. I hope that''s working well with Xen. cu denny _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users