Hello all? First, a disclaimer?I am aware that this is very likely not a Dovecot related issue but I am truly pulling whatever hair I have left out of my head and given the brain-power of this mailer, I thought someone might know what is going in here. The issues is this? I check the message counts for a given account using doveadm and get a given number. I then configure the same account in 3 mail clients: Apple Mail, Mailmate, and Thunderbird. Both the Mailmate and Thunderbird message counts match exactly with the doveadm numbers. Apple Mail is low in almost all cases. I have tried every idea I have found including: ? Delete and recreate the mail account ? Rebuild mailbox ? Resync mailbox ? Reindex Spotlight ? Removing the "~/Library/Mail/V*/Envelope*? files; restart Mail ? Remove the entire "~/Library/Mail/V*? directory; restart Mail So, at wit?s end and again, apologies for this not being a Dovecot-centric issue but I know you are all on top of this stuff and may have an idea? Thanks in advance...
One last datapoint? If I right-clink on a given account in Apple Mail, the message counts there actually match what doveadm tells me. But looking at the message counts in the main Mail application pane, those counts are low. I initially thought this could just be cosmetic but I then confirmed that messages are missing ? in some cases over 1000 messages ? but again, only on the Apple client. If I go to Mailmate or Thunderbird, the messages are there... I have also confirmed that Apple ?features? such as mail filtering, Junk mail, etc. are disabled...> On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Antonio Leding <tech at leding.net> wrote: > > Hello all? > > First, a disclaimer?I am aware that this is very likely not a Dovecot related issue but I am truly pulling whatever hair I have left out of my head and given the brain-power of this mailer, I thought someone might know what is going in here. > > The issues is this? > > I check the message counts for a given account using doveadm and get a given number. I then configure the same account in 3 mail clients: Apple Mail, Mailmate, and Thunderbird. Both the Mailmate and Thunderbird message counts match exactly with the doveadm numbers. Apple Mail is low in almost all cases. > > I have tried every idea I have found including: > > ? Delete and recreate the mail account > ? Rebuild mailbox > ? Resync mailbox > ? Reindex Spotlight > ? Removing the "~/Library/Mail/V*/Envelope*? files; restart Mail > ? Remove the entire "~/Library/Mail/V*? directory; restart Mail > > So, at wit?s end and again, apologies for this not being a Dovecot-centric issue but I know you are all on top of this stuff and may have an idea? > > Thanks in advance...
>>>>> "Antonio" == Antonio Leding <tech at leding.net> writes:Antonio> Hello all? Antonio> First, a disclaimer?I am aware that this is very likely not a Dovecot related issue but I am truly pulling whatever hair I have left out of my head and given the brain-power of this mailer, I thought someone might know what is going in here. Antonio> The issues is this? Antonio> I check the message counts for a given account using doveadm Antonio> and get a given number. I then configure the same account in Antonio> 3 mail clients: Apple Mail, Mailmate, and Thunderbird. Both Antonio> the Mailmate and Thunderbird message counts match exactly Antonio> with the doveadm numbers. Apple Mail is low in almost all Antonio> cases. I think the problem is that Apple probably uses "SELECT INBOX" instead of "EXAMINE" mailbox. Look in the archives for my question about this issue back in Oct 1, 2019. It's a client issue, and (imho) a mistake in the IMAP specification. But I haven't spent any time reading the spec closely to understand the reasoning. John
Hi John, Thanks a million for your insight. I believe this is the thread to which you refer: https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/2019-October/117219.html <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/2019-October/117219.html>> On Jul 30, 2020, at 5:48 AM, John Stoffel <john at stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>>> "Antonio" == Antonio Leding <tech at leding.net> writes: > > Antonio> Hello all? > Antonio> First, a disclaimer?I am aware that this is very likely not a Dovecot related issue but I am truly pulling whatever hair I have left out of my head and given the brain-power of this mailer, I thought someone might know what is going in here. > > Antonio> The issues is this? > > Antonio> I check the message counts for a given account using doveadm > Antonio> and get a given number. I then configure the same account in > Antonio> 3 mail clients: Apple Mail, Mailmate, and Thunderbird. Both > Antonio> the Mailmate and Thunderbird message counts match exactly > Antonio> with the doveadm numbers. Apple Mail is low in almost all > Antonio> cases. > > I think the problem is that Apple probably uses "SELECT INBOX" instead > of "EXAMINE" mailbox. Look in the archives for my question about this > issue back in Oct 1, 2019. It's a client issue, and (imho) a mistake > in the IMAP specification. But I haven't spent any time reading the > spec closely to understand the reasoning. > > John-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20200810/68c5b1d7/attachment.html>