On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 02:09:04PM -0400, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > > Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > > >> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be > >> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend > >> to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow its demands for resources > >> pretty much exponentially (same as Windows does, only from lower > >> starting point). > > > > On my Acer Aspire One 522 (two-core AMD C-50 1.0 GHz processor with 2 > > GB of RAM), CentOS 6 is noticeably smoother than Windows 7. Windows > > uses the battery more efficiently, however. > > > The reql question is what the o/p wants the system *for*. As I mentioned, > I have my '09 HP Netbook (1101?), and I just loaded CentOS 6 i386 on it, > and it runs acceptably. Now, once I switch the WM from *bleah* Gnome to > KDE, or maybe something lighter, I'll be fine... but I only use it while > traveling, for mail and browsing. > > What *are* you going to be doing with it?mostly portable email and browsing. if it is good enough it'll probably have dev tools on it too for the uncommon occasions when I need to build something. If it is good enough I may find other thiings to do with it, but I have a reasonably powerful desktop also running C7, so many of those "other" things are taken care of there. Fred -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." ------------------------------ Matthew 7:21 (niv) -----------------------------
On Thursday 02 November 2017, Fred Smith <fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> wrote:> mostly portable email and browsing.For that, almost anything will do, of course. -- Yves Bellefeuille <yan at storm.ca> GPG key 837A6134 at http://members.storm.ca/~yan/pgp.asc
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 09:16:48PM -0400, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:> On Thursday 02 November 2017, Fred Smith <fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> > wrote: > > > mostly portable email and browsing. > > For that, almost anything will do, of course.only if it actually works for Linux/C7. My netbook used to be good for that too, but it is now so slow I can hardly stand it, so I'm looking for a step up. -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. ------------------------------ Philippians 4:13 -------------------------------
On 11/02/2017 03:38 PM, Fred Smith wrote:> On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 02:09:04PM -0400, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> Yves Bellefeuille wrote: >>> Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be >>>> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend >>>> to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow its demands for resources >>>> pretty much exponentially (same as Windows does, only from lower >>>> starting point). >>> >>> On my Acer Aspire One 522 (two-core AMD C-50 1.0 GHz processor with 2 >>> GB of RAM), CentOS 6 is noticeably smoother than Windows 7. Windows >>> uses the battery more efficiently, however. >>> >> The reql question is what the o/p wants the system *for*. As I mentioned, >> I have my '09 HP Netbook (1101?), and I just loaded CentOS 6 i386 on it, >> and it runs acceptably. Now, once I switch the WM from *bleah* Gnome to >> KDE, or maybe something lighter, I'll be fine... but I only use it while >> traveling, for mail and browsing. >> >> What *are* you going to be doing with it? > > mostly portable email and browsing. if it is good enough it'll probably > have dev tools on it too for the uncommon occasions when I need to > build something. If it is good enough I may find other thiings to do > with it, but I have a reasonably powerful desktop also running C7, so > many of those "other" things are taken care of there. > > Fred >http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-11-3000/spd/inspiron-11-3162-laptop I use that when i want to travel light .. with an SSD and 8gb of RAM (it says 4gb max, 8gb will work), I get good performance and I can do anything I need while traveling. Everything works with CentOS Linux 7 (wifi, graphics, volume buttons, touchpad, etc) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20171103/a5e9063b/attachment-0001.sig>
On Fri, November 3, 2017 8:48 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 11/02/2017 03:38 PM, Fred Smith wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 02:09:04PM -0400, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >>> Yves Bellefeuille wrote: >>>> Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be >>>>> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend >>>>> to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow its demands for resources >>>>> pretty much exponentially (same as Windows does, only from lower >>>>> starting point). >>>> >>>> On my Acer Aspire One 522 (two-core AMD C-50 1.0 GHz processor with 2 >>>> GB of RAM), CentOS 6 is noticeably smoother than Windows 7. Windows >>>> uses the battery more efficiently, however. >>>> >>> The reql question is what the o/p wants the system *for*. As I >>> mentioned, >>> I have my '09 HP Netbook (1101?), and I just loaded CentOS 6 i386 on >>> it, >>> and it runs acceptably. Now, once I switch the WM from *bleah* Gnome to >>> KDE, or maybe something lighter, I'll be fine... but I only use it >>> while >>> traveling, for mail and browsing. >>> >>> What *are* you going to be doing with it? >> >> mostly portable email and browsing. if it is good enough it'll probably >> have dev tools on it too for the uncommon occasions when I need to >> build something. If it is good enough I may find other thiings to do >> with it, but I have a reasonably powerful desktop also running C7, so >> many of those "other" things are taken care of there.To add to that: with Dell always watch which WiFi you are ordering, avoid by all means "dell" WiFi which as such does not exist, it is just re-branded as dell anything, so you actually don't know what chipset you get until the machine is in your hands. Luckily Dell got better, and you can choose Intel WiFi, and that is virtually guaranteed to work with any modern Linux kernel (FreeBSD may be a bit behind, they probably still haven't added to wireless stack what is necessary for _the_latest_ Intel WiFi). Just my $0.02 Valeri>> >> Fred >> > > > > http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-11-3000/spd/inspiron-11-3162-laptop > > I use that when i want to travel light .. with an SSD and 8gb of RAM (it > says 4gb max, 8gb will work), I get good performance and I can do > anything I need while traveling. Everything works with CentOS Linux 7 > (wifi, graphics, volume buttons, touchpad, etc) > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 06:48:11AM -0700, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 11/02/2017 03:38 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 02:09:04PM -0400, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > >> Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > >>> Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be > >>>> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend > >>>> to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow its demands for resources > >>>> pretty much exponentially (same as Windows does, only from lower > >>>> starting point). > >>> > >>> On my Acer Aspire One 522 (two-core AMD C-50 1.0 GHz processor with 2 > >>> GB of RAM), CentOS 6 is noticeably smoother than Windows 7. Windows > >>> uses the battery more efficiently, however. > >>> > >> The reql question is what the o/p wants the system *for*. As I mentioned, > >> I have my '09 HP Netbook (1101?), and I just loaded CentOS 6 i386 on it, > >> and it runs acceptably. Now, once I switch the WM from *bleah* Gnome to > >> KDE, or maybe something lighter, I'll be fine... but I only use it while > >> traveling, for mail and browsing. > >> > >> What *are* you going to be doing with it? > > > > mostly portable email and browsing. if it is good enough it'll probably > > have dev tools on it too for the uncommon occasions when I need to > > build something. If it is good enough I may find other thiings to do > > with it, but I have a reasonably powerful desktop also running C7, so > > many of those "other" things are taken care of there. > > > > Fred > > > > > > http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-11-3000/spd/inspiron-11-3162-laptop > > I use that when i want to travel light .. with an SSD and 8gb of RAM (it > says 4gb max, 8gb will work), I get good performance and I can do > anything I need while traveling. Everything works with CentOS Linux 7 > (wifi, graphics, volume buttons, touchpad, etc)Johnny: how hard is it to replace RAM or SSD? and battery, too, when that time comes. 'cause I'd want to do like you and definitely upgrade it right away, cause that 2gig RAM and abysmal 32G storage is pathetic. and I'm going to guess that 1.6 Ghz processor is similar to the 1.6b Ghz Atom I now have, but hopefully less canine-like. I'd be interested in the 14 inch model except it has the same wimpy specs. so, again how much hassle (and cost) is involved in upgrading like you did? thanks again!> _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- "For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart." ---------------------------- Hebrews 4:12 (niv) ------------------------------