Joan Lluch via llvm-dev
2019-Oct-07 22:22 UTC
[llvm-dev] [AVR] [MSP430] Code gen improvements for 8 bit and 16 bit targets
Hi All, While implementing a custom 16 bit target for academical and demonstration purposes, I unexpectedly found that LLVM was not really ready for 8 bit and 16 bit targets. Let me expose why. Target backends can be divided into two major categories, with essentially nothing in between: Type 1: The big 32 or 64 bit targets. Heavily pipelined with expensive branches, running at clock frequencies up to the GHZ range. Aimed at workstations, computers or smartphones. For example PowerPC, x86 and ARM. Type 2: The 8 or 16 bit targets. Non-pipelined processors, running at frequencies on the MHz range, generally fast access to memory, aimed at the embedded marked or low consumption applications (they are virtually everywhere). LLVM currently implements an experimental AVR target and the MSP430. LLVM does a great for Type 1 targets, but it can be improved for Type 2 targets. The essential target feature that makes one way of code generation better for either type 1 or type 2 targets, is pipelining. For type 1 we want branching to be avoided for as much as possible. Turning branching code into sequential instructions with the execution of speculative code is advantageous. These targets have instruction sets that help with that goal, in particular cheap ‘shifts’ and ‘cmove' type instructions. Type 2 targets, on the contrary, have cheap branching. Their instruction set is not particularly designed to assist branching avoidance because that’s not required. In fact, branching on these targets is often desirable, as opposed to transforms creating expensive speculative execution. ‘Shifts’ are only one-single-bit, and conditional execution instructions other than branches are not available. The current situation is that some LLVM target-independent optimisations are not really that ‘independent' when we bring type 2 targets into the mix. Unfortunately, LLVM was apparently designed with type 1 targets in mind alone, which causes degraded code for type 2 targets. In relation to this, I posted a couple of bug reports that show some of these issues: https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43542 https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43559 The first bug is already fixed by somebody who also suggested me to raise this subject on the llvm-dev mailing list, which I’m doing now. Incidentally, most code degradations happen on the DAGCombine code. It’s a bug because LLVM may create transforms into instructions that are not Legal for some targets. Such transforms are detrimental on those targets. This bug won't show for most targets, but it is nonetheless particularly affecting targets with no native shifts support. The bug consists on the transformation of already relatively cheap code to expensive one. The fix prevents that. Still, although the above DAGCombine code gets fixed, the poor code generation issue will REMAIN. In fact, the same kind of transformations are performed earlier as part of the IR optimisations, in the InstCombine pass. The result is that the IR /already/ incorporates the undesirable transformations for type 2 targets, which DAGCombine can't do anything about. At this point, reverse pattern matching looks as the obvious solution, but I think it’s not the right one because that would need to be implemented on every single current or future (type 2) target. It is also difficult to get rid of undesired transforms when they carry complexity, or are the result or consecutive combinations. Delegating the whole solution to only reverse pattern matching code, will just perpetuate the overall problem, which will continue affecting future target developments. Some reverse pattern matching is acceptable and desirable to deal with very specific target features, but not as a global solution to this problem. On a previous email, a statement was posted that in recent years attempts have been made to remove code from InstCombine and port it to DAGCombiner. I agree that this is a good thing to do, but it was reportedly difficult and associated with potential problems or unanticipated regressions. I understand those concerns and I acknowledge the involved work as challenging. However, in order to solve the presented problem, some work is still required in InstCombine. Therefore, I wondered if something in between could still be done, so this is my proposal: There are already many command line compiler options that modify IR output in several ways. Some options are even target dependent, and some targets even explicitly set them (In RenderTargetOptions). The InstCombine code, has itself its own small set of options, for example "instcombine-maxarray-size” or "instcombine-code-sinking”. Command line compiler options produce functionally equivalent IR output, while respecting stablished canonicalizations. In all cases, the output is just valid IR code in a proper form that depends on the selected options. As an example -O0 produces a very different output than -O3, or -Os, all of them are valid as the input to any target backend. My suggestion would be to incorporate a compiler option acting on the InstCombine pass. The option would improve IR code aimed at Type 2 targets. Of course, this option would not be enabled by default so the IR output would remain exactly as it is today if not explicitly enabled. What this option would need to do in practice is really easy and straightforward. Just bypassing (avoiding) certain transformations that might be considered harmful for targets benefiting from it. I performed some simple tests, specially directed at the InstCombineSelect transformations, and I found them to work great and generating greatly improved code for both the MSP430 and AVR targets. Now, I am aware that this proposal might come a bit unexpected and even regarded as inelegant or undesirable, but maybe after some careful balancing of pros and cons, it is just what we need to do, if we really care about LLVM as a viable platform for 8 and 16 bit targets. As stated earlier, It’s easy to implement, it’s just an optional compiler setting not affecting major targets at all, and the future extend of it can be gradually defined or agreed upon as it is put into operation. Any views would be appreciated. John.
via llvm-dev
2019-Oct-08 14:43 UTC
[llvm-dev] [AVR] [MSP430] Code gen improvements for 8 bit and 16 bit targets
> -----Original Message----- > From: llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org> On Behalf Of Joan Lluch > via llvm-dev > Sent: Monday, October 07, 2019 6:22 PM > To: llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> > Subject: [llvm-dev] [AVR] [MSP430] Code gen improvements for 8 bit and 16 > bit targets > > Hi All, > > While implementing a custom 16 bit target for academical and demonstration > purposes, I unexpectedly found that LLVM was not really ready for 8 bit > and 16 bit targets. Let me expose why. > > Target backends can be divided into two major categories, with essentially > nothing in between: > > Type 1: The big 32 or 64 bit targets. Heavily pipelined with expensive > branches, running at clock frequencies up to the GHZ range. Aimed at > workstations, computers or smartphones. For example PowerPC, x86 and ARM. > > Type 2: The 8 or 16 bit targets. Non-pipelined processors, running at > frequencies on the MHz range, generally fast access to memory, aimed at > the embedded marked or low consumption applications (they are virtually > everywhere). LLVM currently implements an experimental AVR target and the > MSP430. > > LLVM does a great for Type 1 targets, but it can be improved for Type 2 > targets. > > The essential target feature that makes one way of code generation better > for either type 1 or type 2 targets, is pipelining. For type 1 we want > branching to be avoided for as much as possible. Turning branching code > into sequential instructions with the execution of speculative code is > advantageous. These targets have instruction sets that help with that > goal, in particular cheap ‘shifts’ and ‘cmove' type instructions. > > Type 2 targets, on the contrary, have cheap branching. Their instruction > set is not particularly designed to assist branching avoidance because > that’s not required. In fact, branching on these targets is often > desirable, as opposed to transforms creating expensive speculative > execution. ‘Shifts’ are only one-single-bit, and conditional execution > instructions other than branches are not available. > > The current situation is that some LLVM target-independent optimisations > are not really that ‘independent' when we bring type 2 targets into the > mix. Unfortunately, LLVM was apparently designed with type 1 targets in > mind alone, which causes degraded code for type 2 targets. In relation to > this, I posted a couple of bug reports that show some of these issues: > > https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43542 > https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43559 > > The first bug is already fixed by somebody who also suggested me to raise > this subject on the llvm-dev mailing list, which I’m doing now. > > Incidentally, most code degradations happen on the DAGCombine code. It’s a > bug because LLVM may create transforms into instructions that are not > Legal for some targets. Such transforms are detrimental on those targets. > This bug won't show for most targets, but it is nonetheless particularly > affecting targets with no native shifts support. The bug consists on the > transformation of already relatively cheap code to expensive one. The fix > prevents that. > > Still, although the above DAGCombine code gets fixed, the poor code > generation issue will REMAIN. In fact, the same kind of transformations > are performed earlier as part of the IR optimisations, in the InstCombine > pass. The result is that the IR /already/ incorporates the undesirable > transformations for type 2 targets, which DAGCombine can't do anything > about. > > At this point, reverse pattern matching looks as the obvious solution, but > I think it’s not the right one because that would need to be implemented > on every single current or future (type 2) target. It is also difficult to > get rid of undesired transforms when they carry complexity, or are the > result or consecutive combinations. Delegating the whole solution to only > reverse pattern matching code, will just perpetuate the overall problem, > which will continue affecting future target developments. Some reverse > pattern matching is acceptable and desirable to deal with very specific > target features, but not as a global solution to this problem. > > On a previous email, a statement was posted that in recent years attempts > have been made to remove code from InstCombine and port it to DAGCombiner. > I agree that this is a good thing to do, but it was reportedly difficult > and associated with potential problems or unanticipated regressions. I > understand those concerns and I acknowledge the involved work as > challenging. However, in order to solve the presented problem, some work > is still required in InstCombine. > > Therefore, I wondered if something in between could still be done, so this > is my proposal: There are already many command line compiler options that > modify IR output in several ways. Some options are even target dependent, > and some targets even explicitly set them (In RenderTargetOptions). The > InstCombine code, has itself its own small set of options, for example > "instcombine-maxarray-size” or "instcombine-code-sinking”. Command line > compiler options produce functionally equivalent IR output, while > respecting stablished canonicalizations. In all cases, the output is just > valid IR code in a proper form that depends on the selected options. As an > example -O0 produces a very different output than -O3, or -Os, all of them > are valid as the input to any target backend. My suggestion would be to > incorporate a compiler option acting on the InstCombine pass. The option > would improve IR code aimed at Type 2 targets. Of course, this option > would not be enabled by default so the IR output would remain exactly as > it is today if not explicitly enabled.An option is certainly one way to get this effect; another would be to add some sort of target-specific query, which would drive the same choices in the IR transforms. TargetTransformInfo appears to be full of these sorts of queries. --paulr> > What this option would need to do in practice is really easy and > straightforward. Just bypassing (avoiding) certain transformations that > might be considered harmful for targets benefiting from it. I performed > some simple tests, specially directed at the InstCombineSelect > transformations, and I found them to work great and generating greatly > improved code for both the MSP430 and AVR targets. > > Now, I am aware that this proposal might come a bit unexpected and even > regarded as inelegant or undesirable, but maybe after some careful > balancing of pros and cons, it is just what we need to do, if we really > care about LLVM as a viable platform for 8 and 16 bit targets. As stated > earlier, It’s easy to implement, it’s just an optional compiler setting > not affecting major targets at all, and the future extend of it can be > gradually defined or agreed upon as it is put into operation. Any views > would be appreciated. > > John. > > > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
Joan Lluch via llvm-dev
2019-Oct-09 06:33 UTC
[llvm-dev] [AVR] [MSP430] Code gen improvements for 8 bit and 16 bit targets
Hi Paul, TargetTransformInfo hooks are fine, as are the TargetLowering ones, to customise backend code. They would certainly add flexibility compared with relying on instruction Legality alone, and I would up-vote them along with the addition of the missing legality checks in DAGCombine. However, we shouldn’t apply any target specific code to the frontend optimisations, because frontend code is supposed to be mostly target-independent, and strong dependence on targets is not desirable. This is why I proposed it the way I did. John> On 8 Oct 2019, at 16:43, paul.robinson at sony.com wrote: > > An option is certainly one way to get this effect; another would be to > add some sort of target-specific query, which would drive the same choices > in the IR transforms. TargetTransformInfo appears to be full of these > sorts of queries. > —paulr
Joan Lluch via llvm-dev
2019-Nov-13 09:25 UTC
[llvm-dev] [AVR] [MSP430] Code gen improvements for 8 bit and 16 bit targets
Hi All, In relation to the subject of this message I got my first round of patches successfully reviewed and committed. As a matter of reference, they are the following: https://reviews.llvm.org/D69116 https://reviews.llvm.org/D69120 https://reviews.llvm.org/D69326 https://reviews.llvm.org/D70042 They provided hooks in TargetLowering and DAGCombine that enable interested targets to implement a filter for expensive shift operations. The patches work by preventing certain transformations that would result in expensive code for these targets. I want to express my gratitude to the LLVM community and particularly to members @spatel and @asl who have directly followed, helped with, and reviewed these patches. This is half of what’s required to get the full benefits. As I exposed before, in order to get this fully functional, we need to do some work on InstCombine. This is because some of the transformations that we want to avoid, are created earlier in InstCombine, thus deactivating the patches above. My general proposal when I started this (quoted below for reference), was to implement a command line option that would act on InstCombine by bypassing (preventing) certain transformations. I still think that this is the easier and safer way to obtain the desired goals, but I want to subject that to the consideration of the community again to make sure I am on the right track. My current concrete proposal is to add a command line option (boolean) that I would name “enable-shift-relaxation” or just “relax-shifts”. This option would act in several places in InstCombineCasts and in InstCombineSelect with the described effects. I also need to ask about the best way to present tests cases for that. I learned how to create test files for codegen transforms (IR to Assembly), but now I will be working on the “target Independent” side. For my internal work, I have manually been testing C-code to IR generation, but I do not know how to create proper test cases for the llvm project. Any help on this would be appreciated. Thanks in advance John> On 8 Oct 2019, at 00:22, Joan Lluch <joan.lluch at icloud.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > While implementing a custom 16 bit target for academical and demonstration purposes, I unexpectedly found that LLVM was not really ready for 8 bit and 16 bit targets. Let me expose why. > > Target backends can be divided into two major categories, with essentially nothing in between: > > Type 1: The big 32 or 64 bit targets. Heavily pipelined with expensive branches, running at clock frequencies up to the GHZ range. Aimed at workstations, computers or smartphones. For example PowerPC, x86 and ARM. > > Type 2: The 8 or 16 bit targets. Non-pipelined processors, running at frequencies on the MHz range, generally fast access to memory, aimed at the embedded marked or low consumption applications (they are virtually everywhere). LLVM currently implements an experimental AVR target and the MSP430. > > LLVM does a great for Type 1 targets, but it can be improved for Type 2 targets. > > The essential target feature that makes one way of code generation better for either type 1 or type 2 targets, is pipelining. For type 1 we want branching to be avoided for as much as possible. Turning branching code into sequential instructions with the execution of speculative code is advantageous. These targets have instruction sets that help with that goal, in particular cheap ‘shifts’ and ‘cmove' type instructions. > > Type 2 targets, on the contrary, have cheap branching. Their instruction set is not particularly designed to assist branching avoidance because that’s not required. In fact, branching on these targets is often desirable, as opposed to transforms creating expensive speculative execution. ‘Shifts’ are only one-single-bit, and conditional execution instructions other than branches are not available. > > The current situation is that some LLVM target-independent optimisations are not really that ‘independent' when we bring type 2 targets into the mix. Unfortunately, LLVM was apparently designed with type 1 targets in mind alone, which causes degraded code for type 2 targets. In relation to this, I posted a couple of bug reports that show some of these issues: > > https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43542 > https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43559 > > The first bug is already fixed by somebody who also suggested me to raise this subject on the llvm-dev mailing list, which I’m doing now. > > Incidentally, most code degradations happen on the DAGCombine code. It’s a bug because LLVM may create transforms into instructions that are not Legal for some targets. Such transforms are detrimental on those targets. This bug won't show for most targets, but it is nonetheless particularly affecting targets with no native shifts support. The bug consists on the transformation of already relatively cheap code to expensive one. The fix prevents that. > > Still, although the above DAGCombine code gets fixed, the poor code generation issue will REMAIN. In fact, the same kind of transformations are performed earlier as part of the IR optimisations, in the InstCombine pass. The result is that the IR /already/ incorporates the undesirable transformations for type 2 targets, which DAGCombine can't do anything about. > > At this point, reverse pattern matching looks as the obvious solution, but I think it’s not the right one because that would need to be implemented on every single current or future (type 2) target. It is also difficult to get rid of undesired transforms when they carry complexity, or are the result or consecutive combinations. Delegating the whole solution to only reverse pattern matching code, will just perpetuate the overall problem, which will continue affecting future target developments. Some reverse pattern matching is acceptable and desirable to deal with very specific target features, but not as a global solution to this problem. > > On a previous email, a statement was posted that in recent years attempts have been made to remove code from InstCombine and port it to DAGCombiner. I agree that this is a good thing to do, but it was reportedly difficult and associated with potential problems or unanticipated regressions. I understand those concerns and I acknowledge the involved work as challenging. However, in order to solve the presented problem, some work is still required in InstCombine. > > Therefore, I wondered if something in between could still be done, so this is my proposal: There are already many command line compiler options that modify IR output in several ways. Some options are even target dependent, and some targets even explicitly set them (In RenderTargetOptions). The InstCombine code, has itself its own small set of options, for example "instcombine-maxarray-size” or "instcombine-code-sinking”. Command line compiler options produce functionally equivalent IR output, while respecting stablished canonicalizations. In all cases, the output is just valid IR code in a proper form that depends on the selected options. As an example -O0 produces a very different output than -O3, or -Os, all of them are valid as the input to any target backend. My suggestion would be to incorporate a compiler option acting on the InstCombine pass. The option would improve IR code aimed at Type 2 targets. Of course, this option would not be enabled by default so the IR output would remain exactly as it is today if not explicitly enabled. > > What this option would need to do in practice is really easy and straightforward. Just bypassing (avoiding) certain transformations that might be considered harmful for targets benefiting from it. I performed some simple tests, specially directed at the InstCombineSelect transformations, and I found them to work great and generating greatly improved code for both the MSP430 and AVR targets. > > Now, I am aware that this proposal might come a bit unexpected and even regarded as inelegant or undesirable, but maybe after some careful balancing of pros and cons, it is just what we need to do, if we really care about LLVM as a viable platform for 8 and 16 bit targets. As stated earlier, It’s easy to implement, it’s just an optional compiler setting not affecting major targets at all, and the future extend of it can be gradually defined or agreed upon as it is put into operation. Any views would be appreciated. > > John. > > >
Roman Lebedev via llvm-dev
2019-Nov-13 09:39 UTC
[llvm-dev] [AVR] [MSP430] Code gen improvements for 8 bit and 16 bit targets
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:26 PM Joan Lluch via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> > Hi All, > > In relation to the subject of this message I got my first round of patches successfully reviewed and committed. As a matter of reference, they are the following: > > https://reviews.llvm.org/D69116 > https://reviews.llvm.org/D69120 > https://reviews.llvm.org/D69326 > https://reviews.llvm.org/D70042 > > They provided hooks in TargetLowering and DAGCombine that enable interested targets to implement a filter for expensive shift operations. The patches work by preventing certain transformations that would result in expensive code for these targets. > > I want to express my gratitude to the LLVM community and particularly to members @spatel and @asl who have directly followed, helped with, and reviewed these patches.> This is half of what’s required to get the full benefits. As I exposed before, in order to get this fully functional, we need to do some work on InstCombine. This is because some of the transformations that we want to avoid, are created earlier in InstCombine, thus deactivating the patches above. > > My general proposal when I started this (quoted below for reference), was to implement a command line option that would act on InstCombine by bypassing (preventing) certain transformations. I still think that this is the easier and safer way to obtain the desired goals, but I want to subject that to the consideration of the community again to make sure I am on the right track. > > My current concrete proposal is to add a command line option (boolean) that I would name “enable-shift-relaxation” or just “relax-shifts”. This option would act in several places in InstCombineCasts and in InstCombineSelect with the described effects.I'm not really sold on this part, for the reasons previously discussed. This is only going to avoid creating such shifts, in passes that will be adjusted. This will not completely ban such shifts, meaning they still can exist. Which means this will only partially prevent 'degrading' existing IR. What about the ones that were already present in the original input (from C code, e.g.)? I think you just want to add an inverse set of DAGCombine transforms, also guarded with that target hook you added. That way there's no chance to still end up with unfavorable shifts on your target, and no middle-end impact from having more than one canonical representation.> I also need to ask about the best way to present tests cases for that. I learned how to create test files for codegen transforms (IR to Assembly), but now I will be working on the “target Independent” side. For my internal work, I have manually been testing C-code to IR generation, but I do not know how to create proper test cases for the llvm project. Any help on this would be appreciated. > > Thanks in advance > > JohnRoman> > On 8 Oct 2019, at 00:22, Joan Lluch <joan.lluch at icloud.com> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > While implementing a custom 16 bit target for academical and demonstration purposes, I unexpectedly found that LLVM was not really ready for 8 bit and 16 bit targets. Let me expose why. > > > > Target backends can be divided into two major categories, with essentially nothing in between: > > > > Type 1: The big 32 or 64 bit targets. Heavily pipelined with expensive branches, running at clock frequencies up to the GHZ range. Aimed at workstations, computers or smartphones. For example PowerPC, x86 and ARM. > > > > Type 2: The 8 or 16 bit targets. Non-pipelined processors, running at frequencies on the MHz range, generally fast access to memory, aimed at the embedded marked or low consumption applications (they are virtually everywhere). LLVM currently implements an experimental AVR target and the MSP430. > > > > LLVM does a great for Type 1 targets, but it can be improved for Type 2 targets. > > > > The essential target feature that makes one way of code generation better for either type 1 or type 2 targets, is pipelining. For type 1 we want branching to be avoided for as much as possible. Turning branching code into sequential instructions with the execution of speculative code is advantageous. These targets have instruction sets that help with that goal, in particular cheap ‘shifts’ and ‘cmove' type instructions. > > > > Type 2 targets, on the contrary, have cheap branching. Their instruction set is not particularly designed to assist branching avoidance because that’s not required. In fact, branching on these targets is often desirable, as opposed to transforms creating expensive speculative execution. ‘Shifts’ are only one-single-bit, and conditional execution instructions other than branches are not available. > > > > The current situation is that some LLVM target-independent optimisations are not really that ‘independent' when we bring type 2 targets into the mix. Unfortunately, LLVM was apparently designed with type 1 targets in mind alone, which causes degraded code for type 2 targets. In relation to this, I posted a couple of bug reports that show some of these issues: > > > > https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43542 > > https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43559 > > > > The first bug is already fixed by somebody who also suggested me to raise this subject on the llvm-dev mailing list, which I’m doing now. > > > > Incidentally, most code degradations happen on the DAGCombine code. It’s a bug because LLVM may create transforms into instructions that are not Legal for some targets. Such transforms are detrimental on those targets. This bug won't show for most targets, but it is nonetheless particularly affecting targets with no native shifts support. The bug consists on the transformation of already relatively cheap code to expensive one. The fix prevents that. > > > > Still, although the above DAGCombine code gets fixed, the poor code generation issue will REMAIN. In fact, the same kind of transformations are performed earlier as part of the IR optimisations, in the InstCombine pass. The result is that the IR /already/ incorporates the undesirable transformations for type 2 targets, which DAGCombine can't do anything about. > > > > At this point, reverse pattern matching looks as the obvious solution, but I think it’s not the right one because that would need to be implemented on every single current or future (type 2) target. It is also difficult to get rid of undesired transforms when they carry complexity, or are the result or consecutive combinations. Delegating the whole solution to only reverse pattern matching code, will just perpetuate the overall problem, which will continue affecting future target developments. Some reverse pattern matching is acceptable and desirable to deal with very specific target features, but not as a global solution to this problem. > > > > On a previous email, a statement was posted that in recent years attempts have been made to remove code from InstCombine and port it to DAGCombiner. I agree that this is a good thing to do, but it was reportedly difficult and associated with potential problems or unanticipated regressions. I understand those concerns and I acknowledge the involved work as challenging. However, in order to solve the presented problem, some work is still required in InstCombine. > > > > Therefore, I wondered if something in between could still be done, so this is my proposal: There are already many command line compiler options that modify IR output in several ways. Some options are even target dependent, and some targets even explicitly set them (In RenderTargetOptions). The InstCombine code, has itself its own small set of options, for example "instcombine-maxarray-size” or "instcombine-code-sinking”. Command line compiler options produce functionally equivalent IR output, while respecting stablished canonicalizations. In all cases, the output is just valid IR code in a proper form that depends on the selected options. As an example -O0 produces a very different output than -O3, or -Os, all of them are valid as the input to any target backend. My suggestion would be to incorporate a compiler option acting on the InstCombine pass. The option would improve IR code aimed at Type 2 targets. Of course, this option would not be enabled by default so the IR output would remain exactly as it is today if not explicitly enabled. > > > > What this option would need to do in practice is really easy and straightforward. Just bypassing (avoiding) certain transformations that might be considered harmful for targets benefiting from it. I performed some simple tests, specially directed at the InstCombineSelect transformations, and I found them to work great and generating greatly improved code for both the MSP430 and AVR targets. > > > > Now, I am aware that this proposal might come a bit unexpected and even regarded as inelegant or undesirable, but maybe after some careful balancing of pros and cons, it is just what we need to do, if we really care about LLVM as a viable platform for 8 and 16 bit targets. As stated earlier, It’s easy to implement, it’s just an optional compiler setting not affecting major targets at all, and the future extend of it can be gradually defined or agreed upon as it is put into operation. Any views would be appreciated. > > > > John. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
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