Sean Silva via llvm-dev
2016-Jul-12 06:06 UTC
[llvm-dev] Should analyses be able to hold AssertingVH to IR? (related to PR28400)
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Sanjoy Das <sanjoy at playingwithpointers.com> wrote:> Hi Sean, > > Sean Silva wrote: > > While building test-suite with the new PM, I ran into problems with > > AssertingVH being triggered which is obvious in retrospect: > > https://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=28400 > > > > Both cases I ran into revolve around LVI which holds AssertingVH. > > Essentially, what happens is this: > > > > 1. LVI holds an AssertingVH pointing at a BasicBlock > > 2. Some other pass ends up deleting that BB (e.g. SimplifyCFG) > > 3. BOOM > > > > Notice that this ends up happening even though SimplifyCFG ultimately > > invalidates LVI. But that only happens after the AssertingVH has been > > triggered. > > > > We would avoid this issue in principle by just switching those > > AssertingVH to observing pointers, but then we would have dangling > > pointers. I'm pretty sure that any analysis that keeps pointers to IR is > > in fact ending up with dangling pointers like this. > > > > I've noticed that AssumptionCache using CallbackVH that allow it to > > update its data structures correctly in this case. > > > > Just using regular pointers will end up with dangling pointers in this > > scenario. This isn't a problem in practice since the analysis will > > hopefully be invalidated and stop holding the dangling pointers, but it > > just seems weird. Thankfully, ASan can generally catch problems if we do > > try to access through any of these dangling pointers. > > But asan won't catch problems (insofar I understand how it works) if > the free'ed BasicBlock is used as a key in a DenseMap or something -- > if another BasicBlock gets allocated to the same location we'll end up > returning bad cached results. >ASan's allocator is specifically hardened against reusing memory, which mitigates this, but I'm not sure by how much (but I think by a significant amount).> > I think the Right Solution(TM) here is to create a new wrapper around > (Small)DenseMap that in debug mode uses a CallbackVH in a way that: > > - The map is "poisoned" if a key is deleted. > - A poisoned map can only be cleared; inserting, removing or looking > up elements in a poisoned map fails a assertions. > > If needed, we can allow erasing deleted keys from poisoned maps, but > then we won't catch bugs like: > > M[k] = v; > delete k; > k1 = new Key(); // allocated to the same location as k1 > M.erase(k1); // "successful" deletion. > > However, this quite a bit of work, and I'm not sure if the payoff will > be worth it.Hmm.. interesting idea but yeah that seems like a lot of work. From my basic testing, it seems like LVI is the only analysis that uses this pattern so I'm especially not sure it is worth it for a single analysis (unless we want to change more analyses to use this pattern). There's a relatively simple workaround for now which is manually invalidating LVI at the end of passes that use it (JumpThreading and CorrelatedValuePropagation). -- Sean Silva> > > -- Sanjoy > > > > Thoughts? For the moment I have put in a workaround (r274457) that makes > > jump-threading invalidate LVI. > > > > -- Sean Silva >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20160711/673ccac6/attachment.html>
Sanjoy Das via llvm-dev
2016-Jul-12 06:17 UTC
[llvm-dev] Should analyses be able to hold AssertingVH to IR? (related to PR28400)
Hi Sean, Sean Silva wrote: > > But asan won't catch problems (insofar I understand how it works) if > the free'ed BasicBlock is used as a key in a DenseMap or something -- > if another BasicBlock gets allocated to the same location we'll end up > returning bad cached results. > > > ASan's allocator is specifically hardened against reusing memory, which > mitigates this, but I'm not sure by how much (but I think by a > significant amount). Do you mean it will re-use memory less often? Won't that just hide the bug above? If anything, I don't want ASan to "mitigate" bugs, I want it to make the bug trigger more often. :) (Or did I just re-state what you were saying?) -- Sanjoy
Sean Silva via llvm-dev
2016-Jul-12 06:38 UTC
[llvm-dev] Should analyses be able to hold AssertingVH to IR? (related to PR28400)
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Sanjoy Das <sanjoy at playingwithpointers.com> wrote:> Hi Sean, > > Sean Silva wrote: > > > > But asan won't catch problems (insofar I understand how it works) if > > the free'ed BasicBlock is used as a key in a DenseMap or something -- > > if another BasicBlock gets allocated to the same location we'll end > up > > returning bad cached results. > > > > > > ASan's allocator is specifically hardened against reusing memory, which > > mitigates this, but I'm not sure by how much (but I think by a > > significant amount). > > Do you mean it will re-use memory less often? Won't that just hide > the bug above? If anything, I don't want ASan to "mitigate" bugs, I > want it to make the bug trigger more often. :) >ASan's reuses it less often, but keeps it poisoned so that dangling pointers get caught. This makes it less likely that re-use will cause invalid analysis results. BUT it makes it more likely that when we access a dangling pointer, it falls into a poisoned heap area. So the net result is that it catches dangling pointers better. Or to put it another way, the "heap slot reuse causes invalid analysis results" situation is actually a subset of "we access a dangling pointer" which is what we really want to catch (I mean "dangling" in a sense that a pointer stays "dangling" even if its heap slot is reused). By avoiding reuse of heap slots, the dangling pointer is more likely to be in a heap slot that ASan is keeping poisoned and not reusing (hence it can detect the error). -- Sean Silva> > (Or did I just re-state what you were saying?) > > -- Sanjoy >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20160711/f89e07d8/attachment.html>
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