Thierry Reding
2015-Jan-05 15:09 UTC
[Nouveau] [PATCH 1/11] ARM: tegra: add function to control the GPU rail clamp
On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 10:28:08AM +0800, Vince Hsu wrote:> On 12/24/2014 09:16 PM, Lucas Stach wrote: > >Am Dienstag, den 23.12.2014, 18:39 +0800 schrieb Vince Hsu: > >>The Tegra124 and later Tegra SoCs have a sepatate rail gating register > >>to enable/disable the clamp. The original function > >>tegra_powergate_remove_clamping() is not sufficient for the enable > >>function. So add a new function which is dedicated to the GPU rail > >>gating. Also don't refer to the powergate ID since the GPU ID makes no > >>sense here. > >> > >>Signed-off-by: Vince Hsu <vinceh at nvidia.com> > >To be honest I don't see the point of this patch. > >You are bloating the PMC interface by introducing another exported > >function that does nothing different than what the current function > >already does. > > > >If you need a way to assert the clamp I would have expected you to > >introduce a common function to do this for all power partitions. > I thought about adding an tegra_powergate_assert_clamping(), but that > doesn't make sense to all the power partitions except GPU. Note the > difference in TRM. Any suggestion for the common function?I don't think extending the powergate API is useful at this point. We've long had an open TODO item to replace this with a generic API. I did some prototyping a while ago to use generic power domains for this, that way all the details and dependencies between the partitions could be properly modeled. Can you take a look at my staging/powergate branch here: https://github.com/thierryreding/linux/commits/staging/powergate and see if you can use that instead? The idea is to completely hide the details of power partitions from drivers and use runtime PM instead. Also adding Peter whom I had discussed this with earlier. Can we finally get this converted? I'd rather not keep complicating this custom API to avoid making the conversion even more difficult. Thierry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/attachments/20150105/fae76020/attachment.sig>
Vince Hsu
2015-Jan-06 02:11 UTC
[Nouveau] [PATCH 1/11] ARM: tegra: add function to control the GPU rail clamp
On 01/05/2015 11:09 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:> * PGP Signed by an unknown key > > On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 10:28:08AM +0800, Vince Hsu wrote: >> On 12/24/2014 09:16 PM, Lucas Stach wrote: >>> Am Dienstag, den 23.12.2014, 18:39 +0800 schrieb Vince Hsu: >>>> The Tegra124 and later Tegra SoCs have a sepatate rail gating register >>>> to enable/disable the clamp. The original function >>>> tegra_powergate_remove_clamping() is not sufficient for the enable >>>> function. So add a new function which is dedicated to the GPU rail >>>> gating. Also don't refer to the powergate ID since the GPU ID makes no >>>> sense here. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Vince Hsu <vinceh at nvidia.com> >>> To be honest I don't see the point of this patch. >>> You are bloating the PMC interface by introducing another exported >>> function that does nothing different than what the current function >>> already does. >>> >>> If you need a way to assert the clamp I would have expected you to >>> introduce a common function to do this for all power partitions. >> I thought about adding an tegra_powergate_assert_clamping(), but that >> doesn't make sense to all the power partitions except GPU. Note the >> difference in TRM. Any suggestion for the common function? > I don't think extending the powergate API is useful at this point. We've > long had an open TODO item to replace this with a generic API. I did > some prototyping a while ago to use generic power domains for this, that > way all the details and dependencies between the partitions could be > properly modeled. > > Can you take a look at my staging/powergate branch here: > > https://github.com/thierryreding/linux/commits/staging/powergate > > and see if you can use that instead? The idea is to completely hide the > details of power partitions from drivers and use runtime PM instead.You generic power domains work is exactly what we want for powergate eventually. :) I recall we used your prototyping in somewhere internal tree. We have to add more to complete it though, e.g. power domain dependency, mc flush, and clamping register difference like this patch does. But I have a question here. Since the GK20A is not powered on/off by the PMC except the clamping control, and GK20A has its own power rail, do we really want to hide the power sequence in the generic powergate code? We still have to control the voltage level in the GK20A driver through the regulator framework. It seems weird to me if we put the regulator_{enable|disable} somewhere other than the GK20A driver. Thanks, Vince> > Also adding Peter whom I had discussed this with earlier. Can we finally > get this converted? I'd rather not keep complicating this custom API to > avoid making the conversion even more difficult. > > Thierry > > * Unknown Key > * 0x7F3EB3A1
Thierry Reding
2015-Jan-06 11:15 UTC
[Nouveau] [PATCH 1/11] ARM: tegra: add function to control the GPU rail clamp
On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 10:11:41AM +0800, Vince Hsu wrote:> > On 01/05/2015 11:09 PM, Thierry Reding wrote: > >* PGP Signed by an unknown key > > > >On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 10:28:08AM +0800, Vince Hsu wrote: > >>On 12/24/2014 09:16 PM, Lucas Stach wrote: > >>>Am Dienstag, den 23.12.2014, 18:39 +0800 schrieb Vince Hsu: > >>>>The Tegra124 and later Tegra SoCs have a sepatate rail gating register > >>>>to enable/disable the clamp. The original function > >>>>tegra_powergate_remove_clamping() is not sufficient for the enable > >>>>function. So add a new function which is dedicated to the GPU rail > >>>>gating. Also don't refer to the powergate ID since the GPU ID makes no > >>>>sense here. > >>>> > >>>>Signed-off-by: Vince Hsu <vinceh at nvidia.com> > >>>To be honest I don't see the point of this patch. > >>>You are bloating the PMC interface by introducing another exported > >>>function that does nothing different than what the current function > >>>already does. > >>> > >>>If you need a way to assert the clamp I would have expected you to > >>>introduce a common function to do this for all power partitions. > >>I thought about adding an tegra_powergate_assert_clamping(), but that > >>doesn't make sense to all the power partitions except GPU. Note the > >>difference in TRM. Any suggestion for the common function? > >I don't think extending the powergate API is useful at this point. We've > >long had an open TODO item to replace this with a generic API. I did > >some prototyping a while ago to use generic power domains for this, that > >way all the details and dependencies between the partitions could be > >properly modeled. > > > >Can you take a look at my staging/powergate branch here: > > > > https://github.com/thierryreding/linux/commits/staging/powergate > > > >and see if you can use that instead? The idea is to completely hide the > >details of power partitions from drivers and use runtime PM instead. > You generic power domains work is exactly what we want for powergate > eventually. :) I recall we used your prototyping in somewhere internal tree. > We have to add more to complete it though, e.g. power domain dependency, mc > flush, and clamping register difference like this patch does. > > But I have a question here. Since the GK20A is not powered on/off by the PMC > except the clamping control, and GK20A has its own power rail, do we really > want to hide the power sequence in the generic powergate code? We still have > to control the voltage level in the GK20A driver through the regulator > framework. It seems weird to me if we put the regulator_{enable|disable} > somewhere other than the GK20A driver.I think we want both. The power domain to control the power partition and the regulator in the gk20a driver for the voltage control. Thierry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/attachments/20150106/9c572300/attachment-0001.sig>
Peter De Schrijver
2015-Jan-07 10:19 UTC
[Nouveau] [PATCH 1/11] ARM: tegra: add function to control the GPU rail clamp
On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 04:09:33PM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:> * PGP Signed by an unknown key > > On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 10:28:08AM +0800, Vince Hsu wrote: > > On 12/24/2014 09:16 PM, Lucas Stach wrote: > > >Am Dienstag, den 23.12.2014, 18:39 +0800 schrieb Vince Hsu: > > >>The Tegra124 and later Tegra SoCs have a sepatate rail gating register > > >>to enable/disable the clamp. The original function > > >>tegra_powergate_remove_clamping() is not sufficient for the enable > > >>function. So add a new function which is dedicated to the GPU rail > > >>gating. Also don't refer to the powergate ID since the GPU ID makes no > > >>sense here. > > >> > > >>Signed-off-by: Vince Hsu <vinceh at nvidia.com> > > >To be honest I don't see the point of this patch. > > >You are bloating the PMC interface by introducing another exported > > >function that does nothing different than what the current function > > >already does. > > > > > >If you need a way to assert the clamp I would have expected you to > > >introduce a common function to do this for all power partitions. > > I thought about adding an tegra_powergate_assert_clamping(), but that > > doesn't make sense to all the power partitions except GPU. Note the > > difference in TRM. Any suggestion for the common function? > > I don't think extending the powergate API is useful at this point. We've > long had an open TODO item to replace this with a generic API. I did > some prototyping a while ago to use generic power domains for this, that > way all the details and dependencies between the partitions could be > properly modeled. > > Can you take a look at my staging/powergate branch here: > > https://github.com/thierryreding/linux/commits/staging/powergate > > and see if you can use that instead? The idea is to completely hide the > details of power partitions from drivers and use runtime PM instead. > > Also adding Peter whom I had discussed this with earlier. Can we finally > get this converted? I'd rather not keep complicating this custom API to > avoid making the conversion even more difficult.Conceptually I fully agree that we should use runtime PM and powerdomains. However I don't think the implementation you mentioned is correct. The resets of all modules in a domain need to be asserted and the memory clients need to be flushed. All this needs to be done with module clocks enabled (resets are synchronous). Then all module clocks need to be disabled and then the partition can be powergated. After ungating, the module resets need to be deasserted and the FLUSH bit cleared with clocks enabled. Cheers, Peter.
Vince Hsu
2015-Jan-07 10:49 UTC
[Nouveau] [PATCH 1/11] ARM: tegra: add function to control the GPU rail clamp
On 01/07/2015 06:19 PM, Peter De Schrijver wrote:> On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 04:09:33PM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote: >> * PGP Signed by an unknown key >> >> On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 10:28:08AM +0800, Vince Hsu wrote: >>> On 12/24/2014 09:16 PM, Lucas Stach wrote: >>>> Am Dienstag, den 23.12.2014, 18:39 +0800 schrieb Vince Hsu: >>>>> The Tegra124 and later Tegra SoCs have a sepatate rail gating register >>>>> to enable/disable the clamp. The original function >>>>> tegra_powergate_remove_clamping() is not sufficient for the enable >>>>> function. So add a new function which is dedicated to the GPU rail >>>>> gating. Also don't refer to the powergate ID since the GPU ID makes no >>>>> sense here. >>>>> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Vince Hsu <vinceh at nvidia.com> >>>> To be honest I don't see the point of this patch. >>>> You are bloating the PMC interface by introducing another exported >>>> function that does nothing different than what the current function >>>> already does. >>>> >>>> If you need a way to assert the clamp I would have expected you to >>>> introduce a common function to do this for all power partitions. >>> I thought about adding an tegra_powergate_assert_clamping(), but that >>> doesn't make sense to all the power partitions except GPU. Note the >>> difference in TRM. Any suggestion for the common function? >> I don't think extending the powergate API is useful at this point. We've >> long had an open TODO item to replace this with a generic API. I did >> some prototyping a while ago to use generic power domains for this, that >> way all the details and dependencies between the partitions could be >> properly modeled. >> >> Can you take a look at my staging/powergate branch here: >> >> https://github.com/thierryreding/linux/commits/staging/powergate >> >> and see if you can use that instead? The idea is to completely hide the >> details of power partitions from drivers and use runtime PM instead. >> >> Also adding Peter whom I had discussed this with earlier. Can we finally >> get this converted? I'd rather not keep complicating this custom API to >> avoid making the conversion even more difficult. > Conceptually I fully agree that we should use runtime PM and powerdomains. > However I don't think the implementation you mentioned is correct. The resets > of all modules in a domain need to be asserted and the memory clients need to > be flushed. All this needs to be done with module clocks enabled (resets are > synchronous). Then all module clocks need to be disabled and then the > partition can be powergated. After ungating, the module resets need to be > deasserted and the FLUSH bit cleared with clocks enabled.Yeah. I plan to have the information of all the clock client of the partitions and the memory clients be defined statically in c source, e.g. pmc-tegra124.c. All modules can declare which domain they belong to in DT. One domain can be really power gated only when no module is awake. Note the clock clients of one domain might not equal to the clocks of the module. The reset is not either. So I don't get the clock and reset from module. How do you think? Thanks, Vince
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