R help - May 2013 - ANOVA Estimated effects may be unbalanced

Dear All,

This is a data relating leg shaking on differenntre treatments. I reused
several individuals so I want to know 1) if there are significative
differences on shaking per treatment and 2) if the reused individuals
presented some effect or significative variation.

Nevertehless when I make

model1<-aov(Legshaking~Idmale*Idfemale*tratament)

or

model1<-aov(Legshaking~Idmale+Idfemale+tratament)

I get

13744 out of 13824 effects not estimable
Estimated effects may be unbalanced

What could be wrong here? Any advice about how to handle this data in R
will be welcome!

Thanks in advance
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Legshaking	Idmale	Idfemale	treatment
35	751	762	a
0	746	743	a
9	614	672	a
21	210	675	a
29	678	651	a
5	638	103	a
2	713	626	a
41	621	630	a
28	634	630	a
15	633	718	a
5	637	644	a
11	720	214	a
10	618	48	a
5	654	679	a
2	723	641	a
26	652	659	a
36	756	20	a
32	768	17	a
0	747	21	a
42	710	644	a
0	603	80	b
0	764	753	b
11	604	671	b
2	223	626	b
4	678	676	b
0	711	622	b
0	712	629	b
0	706	705	b
2	601	650	b
3	711	643	b
0	613	691	b
6	717	690	b
10	225	632	b
0	635	622	b
0	640	717	b
2	621	646	b
0	637	671	b
0	702	227	b
1	763	754	b
7	346	643	b
14	750	761	d
9	747	742	d
6	756	757	d
0	680	711	d
19	707	691	d
8	617	624	d
14	619	650	d
44	643	690	d
6	716	670	d
6	6	680	d
1	620	641	d
6	636	628	d
3	614	719	d
10	719	682	d
2	616	628	d
10	752	760	d
10	724	675	d
13	49	632	d
5	709	642	d
0	611	646	d
9	741	749	c
16	617	670	c
0	99	647	c
10	619	681	c
11	617	214	c
3	615	676	c
3	708	650	c
2	615	642	c
2	712	625	c
3	714	624	c
12	715	645	c
0	4	625	c
4	715	703	c
16	633	651	c
1	636	629	c
1	640	646	c
1	722	703	c
4	721	677	c
4	726	650	c
9	725	674	c

On 05/20/2013 10:52 AM, Luis Fernando Garc?a Hern?ndez
wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> This is a data relating leg shaking on differenntre treatments. I reused
> several individuals so I want to know 1) if there are significative
> differences on shaking per treatment and 2) if the reused individuals
> presented some effect or significative variation.
>
> Nevertehless when I make
>
> model1<-aov(Legshaking~Idmale*Idfemale*tratament)
>
> or
>
> model1<-aov(Legshaking~Idmale+Idfemale+tratament)
>
> I get
>
> 13744 out of 13824 effects not estimable
> Estimated effects may be unbalanced
>
> What could be wrong here? Any advice about how to handle this data in R
> will be welcome!
>
Hi Luis,
Are you sure that you don't want to compare males and females as a group 
and not every individual male and female?

Jim