Hi, I am confused about the amount of different programs/suites/gems involved in testing in RoR. So far I have a list of: Webrat, Capybara, Rspec, built in integration tests, cucumber, guard, spork, testunit (I get this one!), factory girl etc bloody etc. It seems to me that the authors (like Michael Hartl) I am following hop about and use a lot of different programs to test with, but with little explanation of *why* they choose a particular setup. In fact, I bought a book on Rspec only to find out that he is changing to cucumber later?? This confusion exists on other tutorials too. It seems like testing is really fragmented and constantly changing. I would be grateful if anyone has the time to explain maybe what is going on with testing in Rails as I am really confused. I understand the basics of TDD/BDD (and why BDD etc) but I feel like I am lost on a sinking ship, the (web)rats are leaving, Capybara''s fleeing, with flotsam and jetsam of cucumbers and (r)spectacles all around... It just isn''t making sense and I cannot seem to pick out any logical thrust behind the choice of testing methodology. Many thanks, Kevin McCaughey -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
You would either use RSpec or Test::Unit. Test unit built into rails while rspec seems to be the flavor of the day. I use capybara for cucumber testing, when you want human-readable output as part of your test suite. factory girl is a replacement to rails fixtures, which are unreliable. On Jul 28, 1:32 pm, Kevin McCaughey <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi, > > I am confused about the amount of different programs/suites/gems > involved in testing in RoR. So far I have a list of: > > Webrat, Capybara, Rspec, built in integration tests, cucumber, guard, > spork, testunit (I get this one!), factory girl etc bloody etc. > > It seems to me that the authors (like Michael Hartl) I am following hop > about and use a lot of different programs to test with, but with little > explanation of *why* they choose a particular setup. In fact, I bought a > book on Rspec only to find out that he is changing to cucumber later?? > This confusion exists on other tutorials too. > > It seems like testing is really fragmented and constantly changing. > > I would be grateful if anyone has the time to explain maybe what is > going on with testing in Rails as I am really confused. I understand the > basics of TDD/BDD (and why BDD etc) but I feel like I am lost on a > sinking ship, the (web)rats are leaving, Capybara''s fleeing, with > flotsam and jetsam of cucumbers and (r)spectacles all around... > > It just isn''t making sense and I cannot seem to pick out any logical > thrust behind the choice of testing methodology. > > Many thanks, > > Kevin McCaughey > > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Are Capybara and cucumber different to Rspec? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
On Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:20:19 PM UTC+1, Ruby-Forum.com User wrote:> > Are Capybara and cucumber different to Rspec? > >Capybara (and webrat before it) are tools for simulating (or driving) browsers with lots of methods for executing common actions, interacting with the DOM. rspec, cucumber and test::unit are all libraries (or DSLs) for writing tests. Capybara is commonly paired with cucumber, but you can easily use capybara with rspec and there''s an adapter for test::unit too. There are a lot of tools, but they serve different purposes - I think you''d be less confused if you understood their nuances: there aren''t 10 different approaches to testing, but there are 2-3 approaches to the web acceptance side (webrat/capybara), fixtures (fixtures or factory girl), basic testing setup (cucumber, rspec, test::unit). Spork, guard, autotest are more infrastructury things: guard helps you run tests automatically when related files have changed whereas spork (or spin) help making running small amounts of tests fast by caching the loading of the rails app. So lots of things where there are 2-3 approaches which multiplied together do make for a larger number of total possibilities. As to why there are several alternatives to most components, that''s pretty simple: People don''t agree on the best way to do things. Some people love fixtures, other people hate it, the same goes for rspec. Sometimes projects just fall by the wayside slightly and lose momentum, eg capybara has pretty much superseded webrat. Fred -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/ao7u6W6PPLEJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Dear Frederick, Thank you x 1000 !! You are the first person to actually explain what they do and I now understand what is going on. If only all these blogs and books had spent 10 seconds just saying what these programs were for before just using them ;) I think the "teach by example" paradigm has been taken way to far, and teachers need to cover the basics better before showing stuff. I actually am finding Obie Fernandez book much easier going than the others now. I picked it up from my pile in the corner last night, where I had been saving it as "advanced". Regards, Kevin -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.