Hi guys, I have gotten quotes with several drupal devs and wanted to compare this with ruby on rails. Between the range of $2500-5000 can I have a custom site created in ruby, similar fashion to those of other video sites (except no public video uploads) that can work in conjunction with quicktime streaming server? The site would start with "web pages" imported from spreadsheet files (500+) with all data and some media references such as links, QT video links, etc. Media pages would be added using scripts and meta data on a daily basis, perhaps in conjunction with podcast server for mac os x. Video galleries, multiple galleries based on speaker or subject, web pages that represent groupings of speakers, pages for subjects cross referenced by speaker. How would this compare with Drupal in terms of expandability, reliability, speed, backup and other issues for a popular site with an engaged interactive user base that actively requests improvements? This is a serious inquiry, please help me explore this solution. Best, George --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
george wrote:> Hi guys, > > I have gotten quotes with several drupal devs and wanted to compare > this with ruby on rails.1.5 years ago, I started working with Drupal (and therefore PHP), it was a terrible experience. Drupal is kind of a unfinished CMS framework with which you have to hack using plugins and code taken from the internet at your own risk. Rails is a pure framework, so you have total control over your code logic. If you hire developers it might cost you more though, as it is younger than other php stuff. I was also considering Django, Turbogears, etc. For me, RoR is the winner. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
That seems way too cheap, without knowing a real spec. Is the drupal solution coded with tests inbuilt? Properly coded rails is a lot more maintainable, but you''d be better researching developers no matter the language. Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/ Learn rails: http://sensei.zenunit.com/ On 01/04/2009, at 10:40 AM, george <george-Xep4bwCR7mQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Hi guys, > > I have gotten quotes with several drupal devs and wanted to compare > this with ruby on rails. > > Between the range of $2500-5000 can I have a custom site created in > ruby, similar fashion to those of other video sites (except no public > video uploads) that can work in conjunction with quicktime streaming > server? The site would start with "web pages" imported from > spreadsheet files (500+) with all data and some media references such > as links, QT video links, etc. Media pages would be added using > scripts and meta data on a daily basis, perhaps in conjunction with > podcast server for mac os x. Video galleries, multiple galleries based > on speaker or subject, web pages that represent groupings of speakers, > pages for subjects cross referenced by speaker. > > How would this compare with Drupal in terms of expandability, > reliability, speed, backup and other issues for a popular site with an > engaged interactive user base that actively requests improvements? > > This is a serious inquiry, please help me explore this solution. > > Best, > George > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I work in drupal, drupal is very hard to change after a deploy. Develop in Drupal is very tedious, complicated every step in an running application. Rails is very flexible and if the application is well developed, it is easier to make changes and if they did the test, you can change something and see that the behavior is expected. I don''t recomended Drupal for a web. Agustin Viñao www.agustinvinao.com On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Julian Leviston <julian-AfxEtdRqmE/tt0EhB6fy4g@public.gmane.org>wrote:> > That seems way too cheap, without knowing a real spec. Is the drupal > solution coded with tests inbuilt? Properly coded rails is a lot more > maintainable, but you''d be better researching developers no matter the > language. > > Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/ > Learn rails: http://sensei.zenunit.com/ > > On 01/04/2009, at 10:40 AM, george <george-Xep4bwCR7mQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I have gotten quotes with several drupal devs and wanted to compare > > this with ruby on rails. > > > > Between the range of $2500-5000 can I have a custom site created in > > ruby, similar fashion to those of other video sites (except no public > > video uploads) that can work in conjunction with quicktime streaming > > server? The site would start with "web pages" imported from > > spreadsheet files (500+) with all data and some media references such > > as links, QT video links, etc. Media pages would be added using > > scripts and meta data on a daily basis, perhaps in conjunction with > > podcast server for mac os x. Video galleries, multiple galleries based > > on speaker or subject, web pages that represent groupings of speakers, > > pages for subjects cross referenced by speaker. > > > > How would this compare with Drupal in terms of expandability, > > reliability, speed, backup and other issues for a popular site with an > > engaged interactive user base that actively requests improvements? > > > > This is a serious inquiry, please help me explore this solution. > > > > Best, > > George > > > > > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:40:21 -0700 (PDT) george <george-Xep4bwCR7mQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Between the range of $2500-5000 can I have a custom site created in > ruby, similar fashion to those of other video sites (except no public > video uploads) that can work in conjunction with quicktime streamingThat''s not a lot of money for this kind of project, no matter what framework/cms is used. Especially when you start talking about integration with other systems, etc. That sort of thing can take a lot of time, unless you get lucky and can find a 3rd party solution. -- Starr Horne Check out my Helpdesk RailsKit: http://railskits.com/helpdesk/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Thank you for your input. Yes I have a little experience with PHP and I agree with your assessment of Drupal. Ruby was recommended to me by a trusted colleague. On Apr 1, 4:37 am, Fernando Perez <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> george wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > I have gotten quotes with severaldrupaldevs and wanted to compare > > this with ruby on rails. > > 1.5 years ago, I started working withDrupal(and therefore PHP), it was > a terrible experience.Drupalis kind of a unfinished CMS framework with > which you have to hack using plugins and code taken from the internet at > your own risk. > > Rails is a pure framework, so you have total control over your code > logic. If you hire developers it might cost you more though, as it is > younger than other php stuff. > > I was also considering Django, Turbogears, etc. > > For me, RoR is the winner. > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I will do much more research. Thank you for this sound advice! I read somewhere that 60% of software projects are late, and $30 are disasters On Apr 1, 8:54 am, Julian Leviston <jul...-AfxEtdRqmE/tt0EhB6fy4g@public.gmane.org> wrote:> That seems way too cheap, without knowing a real spec. Is thedrupal > solution coded with tests inbuilt? Properly coded rails is a lot more > maintainable, but you''d be better researching developers no matter the > language. > > Blog:http://random8.zenunit.com/ > Learn rails:http://sensei.zenunit.com/ > > On 01/04/2009, at 10:40 AM, george <geo...-Xep4bwCR7mQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, > > > I have gotten quotes with severaldrupaldevs and wanted to compare > > this with ruby on rails. > > > Between the range of $2500-5000 can I have a custom site created in > > ruby, similar fashion to those of other video sites (except no public > > video uploads) that can work in conjunction with quicktime streaming > > server? The site would start with "web pages" imported from > > spreadsheet files (500+) with all data and some media references such > > as links, QT video links, etc. Media pages would be added using > > scripts and meta data on a daily basis, perhaps in conjunction with > > podcast server for mac os x. Video galleries, multiple galleries based > > on speaker or subject, web pages that represent groupings of speakers, > > pages for subjects cross referenced by speaker. > > > How would this compare withDrupalin terms of expandability, > > reliability, speed, backup and other issues for a popular site with an > > engaged interactive user base that actively requests improvements? > > > This is a serious inquiry, please help me explore this solution. > > > Best, > > George--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
After reading more posts Rails is something that I will investigate fully. Thank you for your good help. On Apr 1, 9:00 am, Agustin Nicolas Viñao Laseras <agustinvi...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I work in drupal, drupal is very hard to change after a deploy. Develop in > Drupal is very tedious, complicated every step in an running application. > Rails is very flexible and if the application is well developed, it is > easier to make changes and if they did the test, you can change something > and see that the behavior is expected. > > I don''t recomended Drupal for a web. > > Agustin Viñaowww.agustinvinao.com > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Julian Leviston <jul...-AfxEtdRqmE/tt0EhB6fy4g@public.gmane.org>wrote: > > > > > That seems way too cheap, without knowing a real spec. Is the drupal > > solution coded with tests inbuilt? Properly coded rails is a lot more > > maintainable, but you''d be better researching developers no matter the > > language. > > > Blog:http://random8.zenunit.com/ > > Learn rails:http://sensei.zenunit.com/ > > > On 01/04/2009, at 10:40 AM, george <geo...-Xep4bwCR7mQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I have gotten quotes with several drupal devs and wanted to compare > > > this with ruby on rails. > > > > Between the range of $2500-5000 can I have a custom site created in > > > ruby, similar fashion to those of other video sites (except no public > > > video uploads) that can work in conjunction with quicktime streaming > > > server? The site would start with "web pages" imported from > > > spreadsheet files (500+) with all data and some media references such > > > as links, QT video links, etc. Media pages would be added using > > > scripts and meta data on a daily basis, perhaps in conjunction with > > > podcast server for mac os x. Video galleries, multiple galleries based > > > on speaker or subject, web pages that represent groupings of speakers, > > > pages for subjects cross referenced by speaker. > > > > How would this compare with Drupal in terms of expandability, > > > reliability, speed, backup and other issues for a popular site with an > > > engaged interactive user base that actively requests improvements? > > > > This is a serious inquiry, please help me explore this solution. > > > > Best, > > > George--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Um right lol, so go the rails bdd path - and use iterative development, costing modularly, and you hopefully won''t go wrong. It''s very hard for things to become disasters or very late when you START with tests and expected outcomes that are small. Get an experienced team and you should be good. Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/ Learn rails: http://sensei.zenunit.com/ On 02/04/2009, at 6:58 PM, george <george-Xep4bwCR7mQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I will do much more research. Thank you for this sound advice! I read > somewhere that 60% of software projects are late, and $30 are > disasters > > On Apr 1, 8:54 am, Julian Leviston <jul...-AfxEtdRqmE/tt0EhB6fy4g@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> That seems way too cheap, without knowing a real spec. Is thedrupal >> solution coded with tests inbuilt? Properly coded rails is a lot more >> maintainable, but you''d be better researching developers no matter >> the >> language. >> >> Blog:http://random8.zenunit.com/ >> Learn rails:http://sensei.zenunit.com/ >> >> On 01/04/2009, at 10:40 AM, george <geo...-Xep4bwCR7mQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi guys, >> >>> I have gotten quotes with severaldrupaldevs and wanted to compare >>> this with ruby on rails. >> >>> Between the range of $2500-5000 can I have a custom site created in >>> ruby, similar fashion to those of other video sites (except no >>> public >>> video uploads) that can work in conjunction with quicktime streaming >>> server? The site would start with "web pages" imported from >>> spreadsheet files (500+) with all data and some media references >>> such >>> as links, QT video links, etc. Media pages would be added using >>> scripts and meta data on a daily basis, perhaps in conjunction with >>> podcast server for mac os x. Video galleries, multiple galleries >>> based >>> on speaker or subject, web pages that represent groupings of >>> speakers, >>> pages for subjects cross referenced by speaker. >> >>> How would this compare withDrupalin terms of expandability, >>> reliability, speed, backup and other issues for a popular site >>> with an >>> engaged interactive user base that actively requests improvements? >> >>> This is a serious inquiry, please help me explore this solution. >> >>> Best, >>> George > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---