Or just invisible? Or posting issues that are too hard? I''ve posted a handful of interesting/challenging questions the past couple weeks and received nary a reply to any of them. I''m just wondering if I''m being ignored, or if the issues are just too hard/too fringe. Ahh well. -Danimal --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mar 30, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Danimal wrote:> Or just invisible? Or posting issues that are too hard? > > I''ve posted a handful of interesting/challenging questions the past > couple weeks and received nary a reply to any of them. I''m just > wondering if I''m being ignored, or if the issues are just too hard/too > fringe. > > Ahh well. > > -DanimalPerhaps your questions don''t seem interesting to anyone else? Is the subject line appropriate and descriptive? I know that I''ll delete a message without looking at the body if the subject doesn''t at least sound like the poster has (a) made a good post and (b) is talking about something that is interesting to *ME*. It''s interesting if I think I can help (in a reasonable amount of time) or I think that I''ll learn something myself. Note that what is considered a "reasonable amount of time" is highly dependent on the quality of the posting (and possibly of subsequent responses). -Rob Rob Biedenharn http://agileconsultingllc.com Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Yay! Someone replied! :-) Thanks, Rob. And BTW, I know that the posts I''ve made recently are very specific and since most people, like you mentioned (and I operate this way as well), tend to ignore posts that don''t concern them or things they are working on, I am not surprised. I was just feeling a little put out that I hadn''t gotten ANY responses to any of the 5+ posts I''ve made in the past week or two. I''ll stop whining now and get back to coding. Hehe. -Danimal --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Danimal wrote:> Or just invisible? Or posting issues that are too hard?Try adding "Rails sucks" to the subject line. It works for certain bloggers we could mention... -- Phlip --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 16:22 -0700, Danimal wrote:> I''ll stop whining now and get back to coding.And maybe re-post your question(s) with an eye to: besides the possibility I might be working on something new, how might I pose the question so that it interests others. Trust me, you ain''t been here long enough for it to be personal ;-) Best regards, Bill --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
:-D Or maybe: "X framework kick''s Rails'' ass" (with anything for X). But I can''t do that. I love Rails too much. It''s just too much fun to code in! And I''ve been at it since pre-1.0... one example of which is still running in pre-1.0 code on lighty and has been for going on 3 years now. Woo hoo! The only problem is getting decent rails projects... too many of them end up being simple websites that don''t deserve/need the power of Rails. -Danimal On Mar 30, 6:34 pm, Phlip <phlip2...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Danimal wrote: > > Or just invisible? Or posting issues that are too hard? > > Try adding "Rails sucks" to the subject line. > > It works for certain bloggers we could mention... > > -- > Phlip--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Bill, Always good to keep that in mind. I tend to get so tunnel-visioned that I think "here''s my very specific problem in my very specific instance, now who can help?" Perhaps generalizing more or appealing to it in a different way will help. -Danimal Oh, and for the record, not that it matters, I''ve been here a good long time... just not very active. I got side-tracked on some boring PHP projects for the past few months and only recently dove back into Rails (thank the Lord!) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:38 PM, bill walton <bwalton.im-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 16:22 -0700, Danimal wrote: > >> I''ll stop whining now and get back to coding. > > And maybe re-post your question(s) with an eye to: besides the > possibility I might be working on something new, how might I pose the > question so that it interests others. > > Trust me, you ain''t been here long enough for it to be personal ;-) > > Best regards, > Bill > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi Dan, On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 18:43 -0600, Dan Sharp wrote:> Bill, > > Always good to keep that in mind. I tend to get so tunnel-visioned > that I think "here''s my very specific problem in my very specific > instance, now who can help?"We all fall prey to the same (often self-inflicted) pressures. I know I do.> Perhaps generalizing more or appealing to > it in a different way will help.I''ve found that it help sometimes. Sometimes I find that just thinking about whatever problem I''m working on in that light takes me to a solution I couldn''t see before. It''s also true that sometimes, given what I can Google up, it looks like I''m the pioneer. You can spot them, you know. They''re the ones face down in the dirt with arrows in their backs ;-) Seriously hoping I haven''t offended! Bill --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi Bill! I must be lying down in the dirt then. My recent project has broken some really new ground for me: 1. ActionMailer emails with multiple formats AND multiple attachments 2. ActionMailer global layouts with over-ride for Plain emails 3. Delivering iCalendar files for events, including as attachments to emails 4. Customizing ar_mailer and Spawn to provide a table-queued, auto- flush email delivery that doesn''t "block" the Rails app 5. Time zone inclusion and integration with iCalendar 6. Ajax-y attachments ala Basecamp (been meaning to figure out how to do that for a LONG time) 7. Local mail testing on OSX via postfix overrides and a local pop server 8. PDF auto-generation via HTMLDOC hooks and template renders 9. Beast hack to provide custom forum capabilities, including 3-tier management levels 10. Got my git+cap+mod_rails all working swimmingly now, even though it''s just me on this project. And that''s just off the top of my head. It''s been quite a project. And I just passed it off for final client approval today. So, whew! Time for a breather! (and to start looking for the next one) :-) Oh, and you didn''t offend at all, Bill. For two reasons: (1) I''m thick- skinned (except when ignored completely), and (2) you responded TWICE! That puts you on the short list of good guys (IMNSHO). -Danimal On Mar 30, 8:58 pm, bill walton <bwalton...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi Dan, > > On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 18:43 -0600, Dan Sharp wrote: > > > Bill, > > > Always good to keep that in mind. I tend to get so tunnel-visioned > > that I think "here''s my very specific problem in my very specific > > instance, now who can help?" > > We all fall prey to the same (often self-inflicted) pressures. I know I > do. > > > Perhaps generalizing more or appealing to > > it in a different way will help. > > I''ve found that it help sometimes. Sometimes I find that just thinking > about whatever problem I''m working on in that light takes me to a > solution I couldn''t see before. It''s also true that sometimes, given > what I can Google up, it looks like I''m the pioneer. You can spot them, > you know. They''re the ones face down in the dirt with arrows in their > backs ;-) > > Seriously hoping I haven''t offended! > > Bill--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi Dan, On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 20:12 -0700, Danimal wrote:> Hi Bill! > > I must be lying down in the dirt then. My recent project has broken > some really new ground for me:<snipped impressive list of accomplishments />> And that''s just off the top of my head. It''s been quite a project. And > I just passed it off for final client approval today. > > So, whew! Time for a breather! (and to start looking for the next one) > > :-)Congrats and best of luck on landing your next one real soon! Best regards, Bill --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Danimal wrote:> I must be lying down in the dirt then. My recent project has broken > some really new ground for me: > > 1. ActionMailer emails with multiple formats AND multiple attachments > 2. ActionMailer global layouts with over-ride for Plain emailsetc. One thing that happens with Rails is folks might graduate from "HTML Designers" to "Software Engineers" using it.> So, whew! Time for a breather! (and to start looking for the next one)However... "Software Engineers" have different job systems. Someone at the "glass ceiling" of HTML Design might find themselves looking in the wrong places for their next gig... --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Phlip, That is so true! And something I struggle with often. I''m much more a programmer than a web designer, but as I''m self-employed, it''s often the "build me a website" projects that come my way, which tend to be 80% design / 20% programming. It''s very hard to be self-employed (i.e. not part of a team/company) and still find interesting, challenging "build me a web-based application" projects. I''ll be looking differently this time around. :-) -Danimal On Mar 31, 6:10 am, Phlip <phlip2...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> However... "Software Engineers" have different job systems. Someone at the > "glass ceiling" of HTML Design might find themselves looking in the wrong places > for their next gig...--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Pariah? no... anathema maybe... ;) I hadn''t replied ''cause I have no experience with ActionMailer, etc, but I read most everything (kind of a ''first thing at work while getting started'' habit). But that doesn''t mean you should stop posting. The resolution of your ''sticky wicket'' may just save me, or other folks, time and/or confusion in the future. So keep ''em coming. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Mar 31, 7:41 am, Ar Chron <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Pariah? no... anathema maybe... ;):-D> But that doesn''t mean you should stop posting. The resolution of your > ''sticky wicket'' may just save me, or other folks, time and/or confusion > in the future.Actually, this is a good reminder for anyone here, myself included. I will sometimes post a question here but eventually figure it out myself (or find some blog posting or such that deals with it). It''s a great idea to come back and post a reply to my own question with the solution. I do that on occasion, but I should do that more, particularly for people like you who may be just browsing that thread and yet be helped by the solution.> So keep ''em coming.You got it! :-) -Danimal, the Anathema. *grin* --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---