Rails - Nov 2008 - Is InstantRails still a viable way to start with Rails?

All,

Have a friend who is starting out on Windows with Rails using Instant
Rails but he''s having problems.  Anybody have any good/bad experience
with it so I can help set his expectations?

Thanks,
Wes
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Although yes it is ok to use instant rails when initially starting out 
with ROR but when i began i just installed ruby and downloaded free 
netbeans IDE. Netbeans had everything built in and ready to go out of 
the box.
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Yes InstantRails is still the best way to start.

You get Ruby, Rails, Apache, phpMyAdmin all ready configured and ready
to go.

Once you have been going for some time then you can spread your wings
and do whatever you like.

I use NetBeans on windows and Linux but still have my Ruby/Mysql etc
all packaged in the InstantRails folder on windows.

Cheers
George
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Hi,

I''m happy with InstantRails. I use RadRails, but only to edit files and
have a nice environment, but I don''t use the IDE really.

InstantRails is very handy, make sure you update to Rails 2.1.2 after 
downloading it, at least last time I got it there was Rails 2.0 with it.

Regards
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Just to play devil''s advocate...

If you spend some time reading on the web, and retrieve and install all 
the pieces and parts yourself, you''ll have a much better notion of just
what the moving parts are, and you''ll know what you have installed when
the inevitable gotcha happens. You''re forced to learn about what makes 
up your application and the runtime, and as such, you are not beholden 
to anyone else to bring your environment up to speed with the next 
version of whatever widget.

I''ve followed that tactic with both Windows (early development) and 
Linux (production) installs, and while frustrating at times, I have a 
very short list of known players in my application. It made it very 
simple to migrate from Windows development to Linux production... (and 
to re-create my development envt in an Ubuntu VMware instance), and to 
go from Rails 1.2.6 to Rails 2.1.0.

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Wes Gamble wrote:
> All,
> 
> Have a friend who is starting out on Windows with Rails using Instant
> Rails but he''s having problems.  Anybody have any good/bad
experience
> with it so I can help set his expectations?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wes
Developing Rails on Windows, is generally a bad idea. Install cygwin to 
try and mimic as much as possible your production environment if your 
server will run linux.
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What kind of problems is he having and what version of IR is he using.  
The sample apps may not run with IR 2.x.

I have found IR works fine (within the limitations of Windows) but I 
only use it for some deployment.  I develop with Linux which I think 
gives a much better environment as well as better performance.

Norm

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Something I have not tried, but worth checking out is this:
http://bitnami.org/stack/rubystack

On Nov 11, 4:40 am, Wes Gamble
<rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> All,
>
> Have a friend who is starting out on Windows with Rails using Instant
> Rails but he''s having problems.  Anybody have any good/bad
experience
> with it so I can help set his expectations?
>
> Thanks,
> Wes
> --
> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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My experience with Instant Rails is that it''s a very nice way to get
going, but if you''re going to do any kind of serious development
you''re going to end up installing everything anyway

My advice:
If you just want to play around with rails a little bit but never
intend on doing any "real" work with it then IR is fine.  If
you''re
getting started on a project that you plan on eventually deploying to
a server somewhere, go through the steps of getting everything
installed properly on your box.

On Nov 10, 5:30 pm, Davo
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wrote:
> Something I have not tried, but worth checking out is
this:http://bitnami.org/stack/rubystack
>
> On Nov 11, 4:40 am, Wes Gamble
<rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
>
> > All,
>
> > Have a friend who is starting out on Windows with Rails using Instant
> > Rails but he''s having problems.  Anybody have any good/bad
experience
> > with it so I can help set his expectations?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Wes
> > --
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> My advice:
> If you just want to play around with rails a little bit but never
> intend on doing any "real" work with it then IR is fine.  If
you''re
> getting started on a project that you plan on eventually deploying to
> a server somewhere, go through the steps of getting everything
> installed properly on your box.
I would take it a step farther and say if you are going to do some
"real work" (what is real work anyway?), then I would recommend trying
to get an install up on a Linux box somewhere. When you deploy, it
will more than likely be to a Linux-based server, so it will save you
many headaches if you have at least one box where you can develop as
close to the deployment environment as possible.

Just a thought.
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