So I''m wondering about the origin of "ActiveRecord" and "ActionPack" and the like in Rails. I''ve always thought that perhaps DHH found himself in a suit one day (maybe he had to attend a friend''s wedding or something), and as long as he had the suit on, decided to lapse into a one of the barely lucid frenzies that Marketing people are prone to when naming something. Then today I was reading about Flex on Rails, and find that Flex is based on something called "ActiveScript". This has me wondering, is there some well-spring of this "Active" nonsense somewhere in the annals of development that I happened to have missed? Maybe it came from Java land or something (I was lost in C and C++ land during the entire decade of the 90''s, so I totally missed all that Java stuff). So, help me out. Why all this "Active" stuff in the naming of present day development environments? thanks, jp -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Start you journey here: http://martinfowler.com/eaaCatalog/activeRecord.html On Dec 31, 10:50 pm, Jeff Pritchard <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> So I''m wondering about the origin of "ActiveRecord" and "ActionPack" and > the like in Rails. > > I''ve always thought that perhaps DHH found himself in a suit one day > (maybe he had to attend a friend''s wedding or something), and as long as > he had the suit on, decided to lapse into a one of the barely lucid > frenzies that Marketing people are prone to when naming something. > > Then today I was reading about Flex on Rails, and find that Flex is > based on something called "ActiveScript". > > This has me wondering, is there some well-spring of this "Active" > nonsense somewhere in the annals of development that I happened to have > missed? Maybe it came from Java land or something (I was lost in C and > C++ land during the entire decade of the 90''s, so I totally missed all > that Java stuff). > > So, help me out. Why all this "Active" stuff in the naming of present > day development environments? > > thanks, > jp > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Do you have a better suggestion? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
activestate.com ? activerain.com ? ActionScript for OSX Many sites/technologies relating to "active". Never heard of any pattern or whatnot that really pre-dated rails that might influence the choice. On 12/31/07, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Do you have a better suggestion? > > > >-- Nathaniel Steven Henry Brown 604-724-6624 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Nathaniel Brown wrote:> activestate.com <http://activestate.com> ? > activerain.com <http://activerain.com> ? > ActionScript for OSX > > Many sites/technologies relating to "active". Never heard of any > pattern or whatnot that really pre-dated rails that might influence > the choice. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_record_pattern Lionel --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Dec 31, 2007 8:50 PM, Jeff Pritchard <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Then today I was reading about Flex on Rails, and find that Flex is > based on something called "ActiveScript".Uh, actually, it''s "ActionScript" :-) FWIW, -- Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Nicholas Henry wrote:> Start you journey here: > > http://martinfowler.com/eaaCatalog/activeRecord.html > > On Dec 31, 10:50 pm, Jeff Pritchard <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org>OK, from what I see in the replies so far, it would seem that ActiveRecord owes its name to the design pattern of the same name, so perhaps it was not DHH who found himself in a suit one day. Did most of the other many uses of the root word "action" in naming things in development environments arise from a contagion of this one pattern name? This only seems odd to me based on my belief that most engineers would have named "ActionController" simply "Controller" or "ControllerBase". Perhaps during the twenty plus years I''ve been an Engineer the self-imposed class structure separating Engineers and "Marketing people" has narrowed. Seems to me that "marketing guy-ish" naming of things has made its way much deeper into the strata of development than it once did. Maybe this is a side effect of the increasing number of "Startups", with Coders running their own small companies and wearing many hats. Not even vaguely important. Just an idle curiosity that traipsed across my consciousness. Thanks for indulging me. cheers, jp -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
ActiveX started it all, I think. ///ark --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 1, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Jeff Pritchard wrote:> Perhaps during the twenty plus years I''ve been an Engineer the > self-imposed class structure separating Engineers and "Marketing > people" > has narrowed.20 years ago I''ll bet you called yourself a programmer. But engineer is more marketable. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 1, 2008 12:58 PM, George Bailey <listcatcher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On Jan 1, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Jeff Pritchard wrote: > > > Perhaps during the twenty plus years I''ve been an Engineer the > > self-imposed class structure separating Engineers and "Marketing > > people" > > has narrowed. > > 20 years ago I''ll bet you called yourself a programmer. But engineer > is more marketable.Twenty years ago, my IBM business card carried the title of "Smalltalk Guru" -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
George Bailey wrote:> On Jan 1, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Jeff Pritchard wrote: > >> Perhaps during the twenty plus years I''ve been an Engineer the >> self-imposed class structure separating Engineers and "Marketing >> people" >> has narrowed. > > 20 years ago I''ll bet you called yourself a programmer. But engineer > is more marketable.Actually, 20 years ago I called myself an Electrical Engineer, but Software Engineer is more marketable. ;) jp -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 1, 2008 1:44 PM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Jan 1, 2008 12:58 PM, George Bailey <listcatcher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 1, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Jeff Pritchard wrote: > > > > > Perhaps during the twenty plus years I''ve been an Engineer the > > > self-imposed class structure separating Engineers and "Marketing > > > people" > > > has narrowed. > > > > 20 years ago I''ll bet you called yourself a programmer. But engineer > > is more marketable. > > Twenty years ago, my IBM business card carried the title of "Smalltalk Guru"Actually, I just realized that I misremembered. My business card said "Smalltalk Wizard". My old friend the late great David N. Smith had the IBM business card which said "Smalltalk Guru". I can''t honestly recall which of us had the first of these. -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 2, 2008 4:28 AM, George Bailey <listcatcher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On Jan 1, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Jeff Pritchard wrote: > > > Perhaps during the twenty plus years I''ve been an Engineer the > > self-imposed class structure separating Engineers and "Marketing > > people" > > has narrowed. > > 20 years ago I''ll bet you called yourself a programmer. But engineer > is more marketable. > >I call myself a programmer. My mental image of an engineer is someone in a hard hat with a spanner in their hand. -- Ryan Bigg http://www.frozenplague.net Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 1, 2:42 pm, "Ryan Bigg" <radarliste...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I call myself a programmer. My mental image of an engineer is someone in a > hard hat with a spanner in their hand.Yeah, when people asked what my major was, I''d say "Computer (wooo-ooo woooooo) Engineer" (I hope I spelled the sound a locomotive horn makes right.) ///ark --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 20:05:50 +0100, Jeff Pritchard wrote:>> 20 years ago I''ll bet you called yourself a programmer. But engineer >> is more marketable. > > Actually, 20 years ago I called myself an Electrical Engineer, but > Software Engineer is more marketable. ;)20 years ago, I called myself a sophomore! ::gdr:: -- Jay Levitt | Boston, MA | My character doesn''t like it when they Faster: jay at jay dot fm | cry or shout or hit. http://www.jay.fm | - Kristoffer --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I suspect ActionController is aptly name as it executes actions; i.e. the params passed to a controller are :controller => Person, :action => index. On Jan 1, 12:30 pm, Jeff Pritchard <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Nicholas Henry wrote: > > Start you journey here: > > >http://martinfowler.com/eaaCatalog/activeRecord.html > > > On Dec 31, 10:50 pm, Jeff Pritchard <rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> > > OK, from what I see in the replies so far, it would seem that > ActiveRecord owes its name to the design pattern of the same name, so > perhaps it was not DHH who found himself in a suit one day. > > Did most of the other many uses of the root word "action" in naming > things in development environments arise from a contagion of this one > pattern name? > > This only seems odd to me based on my belief that most engineers would > have named "ActionController" simply "Controller" or "ControllerBase". > Perhaps during the twenty plus years I''ve been an Engineer the > self-imposed class structure separating Engineers and "Marketing people" > has narrowed. Seems to me that "marketing guy-ish" naming of things has > made its way much deeper into the strata of development than it once > did. Maybe this is a side effect of the increasing number of > "Startups", with Coders running their own small companies and wearing > many hats. > > Not even vaguely important. Just an idle curiosity that traipsed across > my consciousness. Thanks for indulging me. > > cheers, > jp > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
20 years ago I was 1 month old. -- Ryan Bigg http://www.frozenplague.net Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:30:53 +0100, Jeff Pritchard wrote:> OK, from what I see in the replies so far, it would seem that > ActiveRecord owes its name to the design pattern of the same name, so > perhaps it was not DHH who found himself in a suit one day. > > Did most of the other many uses of the root word "action" in naming > things in development environments arise from a contagion of this one > pattern name?I remember noticing this, and I remember reading somewhere (on the Internet, so it must be true) that it''s something of a coincidence. ActiveRecord, as others have said, is based on the ActiveRecord pattern. ActionPack (which I suspect, with no evidence, may have been originally just one thing and then later split into ActionController and ActionView) is, well, a pack of routines that deal with actions (as in MVC controller actions). Ditto ActionWebService. And I imagine, at that point, you just start naming everything with A. We do go through fun naming trends, memes and snowclones in programming. There was a while at AOL where everything was this-man and that-man (short for manager); naturally this ended up at RAINMAN. Microsoft, as someone else pointed out, went both ActiveCrazy and X-Crazy for a while with ActiveX. Apple had MacEverything. UNIX has all sorts of memes and snowclones: recursive acronyms, animals, etc. When I was fighting spam, we already had SpamJammer, and needed a server to cancel the accounts of spammers; SpamHammer was a natural. Then we needed something to deal with large floods, so of course that beget SpamDammer. Then I started working on a DSL (though I''d never heard the term) specifically for the postmaster group. Naturally, it had to be called SpamGrammar. Naming stuff is fun. -- Jay Levitt | Boston, MA | My character doesn''t like it when they Faster: jay at jay dot fm | cry or shout or hit. http://www.jay.fm | - Kristoffer --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 1, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Jay Levitt wrote:> We do go through fun naming trends, memes and snowclones in > programming.Witness Ruby plugins: with_derivative simply_repetitive acts_as_cliche> Apple had MacEverything.iThink they''ve moved on from that. -faisal --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Oops, seems I learned from a different source than you... http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3642221 There is an actionScript too though! :) On 1/1/08, Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > On Dec 31, 2007 8:50 PM, Jeff Pritchard > <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Then today I was reading about Flex on Rails, and find that Flex is > > based on something called "ActiveScript". > > Uh, actually, it''s "ActionScript" :-) > > FWIW, > -- > Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > > > >-- Nathaniel Steven Henry Brown 604-724-6624 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Looking at the wiki page, it looks quite close to when Rails was made.. which was on my birthday of all days. 19:40, 11 October 2005<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Active_record_pattern&oldid=25298057> Wwwwolf <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wwwwolf> (Talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wwwwolf>| contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wwwwolf>) (Created) On 1/1/08, Nathaniel Brown <nshb-wgYSSEAWXinQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Oops, seems I learned from a different source than you... > http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3642221 > > There is an actionScript too though! :) > > On 1/1/08, Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 31, 2007 8:50 PM, Jeff Pritchard > > <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > Then today I was reading about Flex on Rails, and find that Flex is > > > based on something called "ActiveScript". > > > > Uh, actually, it''s "ActionScript" :-) > > > > FWIW, > > -- > > Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Nathaniel Steven Henry Brown > 604-724-6624 >-- Nathaniel Steven Henry Brown 604-724-6624 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 1, 2008 7:58 PM, Nathaniel Brown <nshb-wgYSSEAWXinQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Oops, seems I learned from a different source than you... > http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3642221..which is such an utterly confused POS that it uses /both/ names -- perhaps you would be better off going to the actual Adobe web site and reading up on Flash and Flex instead of relying on a sketchy third party fluff piece :-)> There is an actionScript too though! :)Yes, and "ActionScript" is what''s in Flash/Flex... -- Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ hassan.schroeder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Ryan Bigg wrote:> 20 years ago I was 1 month old. > > -- > Ryan Bigg > http://www.frozenplague.net > Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.ryan - u rock ;) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Jan 1, 2008 7:15 PM, Jay Levitt <jay+news-WxwZQdyI2t0@public.gmane.org> wrote:> When I was fighting spam, we already had SpamJammer, and needed a server to > cancel the accounts of spammers; SpamHammer was a natural. Then we needed > something to deal with large floods, so of course that beget SpamDammer. > Then I started working on a DSL (though I''d never heard the term) > specifically for the postmaster group. Naturally, it had to be called > SpamGrammar.So I guess that the main robot which sends out all those emails which advertise various drugs would be named Gramspammer. <duck> -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 09:48:49 -0500, Rick DeNatale wrote:> So I guess that the main robot which sends out all those emails which > advertise various drugs would be named Gramspammer.Ha! And of course, there''s the Pamela & Tommy videos.. PamBamSpammer... What have I done?? -- Jay Levitt | Boston, MA | My character doesn''t like it when they Faster: jay at jay dot fm | cry or shout or hit. http://www.jay.fm | - Kristoffer --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:42:27 +1030, Ryan Bigg wrote:> 20 years ago I was 1 month old.Bing! Trophy goes to Ryan, subject to a 19-year-old posting something better. -- Jay Levitt | Boston, MA | My character doesn''t like it when they Faster: jay at jay dot fm | cry or shout or hit. http://www.jay.fm | - Kristoffer --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
And the cheap computer hardware spammer: RAMSpammer. On Jan 3, 2008 12:50 AM, Shai Rosenfeld <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: Ryan Bigg wrote:> 20 years ago I was 1 month old. > > -- > Ryan Bigg > http://www.frozenplague.net > Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.ryan - u rock ;) Why thank you. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---