I''m having trouble configuring a mailer. Prudence would dictate that I should upload at least portions of the relevant files, etc. If it comes to that, I''ll certainly do it. However, before I go that route I would really like to see if I can''t use this problem to develop some trouble shooting skills because I know that I''m going to need them in the future. Basically the situation is that I have followed the general setup detailed in ''Agile Web Development with Rails''. Amongst other things I have specifically included the line: config.action_ mailer.delivery_ method=:sendmail in my config/environments/test.rb file and /usr/sbin/sendmail is a sym link to my sendmail-compatible smtp server. The single symptom is that the email doesn''t actually get sent. Otherwise, the whole process completes exactly as one would expect. There are no indications of problems logged to either the rails log file or the log file of my smtp server. The fact that nothing is logged to the log file of my smtp server makes me believe that it is not actually receiving a request. So, my question is this: Given this fact pattern how should I proceed in order to isolate and correct the problem? Thanks for any input. ... doug --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
doug wrote:> So, my question is this: Given this fact pattern how should I proceed > in order to isolate and correct the problem?Are you running the application in development mode? If so, take a look at the last line in config/environments/development.rb. --Al Evans -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> Are you running the application in development mode?No. I''m running in test mode. I''ve gotten this thing to work before in test mode; but, not this time. The issue I''m trying to address is: What does one do when something like this happens. I''m thinking that there must be some sort of troubleshooting procedure to follow. Thanks for the input. ... doug --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
doug wrote:>> Are you running the application in development mode? > > No. I''m running in test mode. I''ve gotten this thing to > work before in test mode; but, not this time. The issue > I''m trying to address is: What does one do when > something like this happens. I''m thinking that there > must be some sort of troubleshooting procedure to > follow. > > Thanks for the input. > > ... dougOK, different config, same result -- From config/environments/test.rb: # Tell ActionMailer not to deliver emails to the real world. # The :test delivery method accumulates sent emails in the # ActionMailer::Base.deliveries array. config.action_mailer.delivery_method = :test So it''s doing what it''s configured to do. --Al Evans -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On May 26, 10:45 pm, doug <ddjol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> What does one do when > something like this happens. I''m thinking that there > must be some sort of troubleshooting procedure to > follow.What I generally do is to first try the obvious. Step through the code mentally looking for any obvious mistakes. I catch most of my errors this way. If that doesn''t work, sometimes you can use debug logging to validate your assumptions. Spit out the value of variables, write a log entry when you enter a function to make sure you''re actually entering it, etc. When the above fails (actually I usually go to this next, before I bother with the logging thing), the best thing you can do for yourself is to use a decent debugger. The value of having a good debugger at your disposal - and using it - cannot be overstated. They can save you many many minutes of head-scratching time. Sometimes hours. I can''t tell you the number of times I''ve figured out an issue with a debugger in a few minutes that I''m sure would have taken me hours to figure out without one. For my money (which is sort of a misnomer, because this one''s free), the best Ruby/Rails debugger available right now is the one in NetBeans 6. If you''ve used a debugger with Java or C++ or other languages before, this one works pretty much the same. If you haven''t, now is the time to learn how. :) Don''t worry, it really isn''t hard. It''s pretty easy to get started, and just takes some practice to become proficient. I strongly recommend downloading NetBeans 6 M9 and running your project inside of its debugger. Set a breakpoint on the line where you send the mail, and when you hit it, start stepping through the code line by line, inspecting variables and watching where the execution path goes along the way. You''ll find your problem. Make sure you switch NetBeans from using JRuby to using your native Ruby interpreter, and see this page for setting up the fast debugger: http://wiki.netbeans.org/wiki/view/RubyDebugging You wanted to know what developers usually do when things don''t work as expected - this is it. We turn to our debuggers to help us find out why. Hope that helps. Feel free to ping back with questions. And good luck. :) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> So it''s doing what it''s configured to do.Good point, and maybe this is something I need to look into because that''s exactly how it''s behaving. That is to say that it''s behaving as though it were in testing mode and not actually sending the e- mail. However, what I *MEANT* was that I''m running in the testing *ENVIRONMENT*. I do have: config.action_ mailer.delivery_ method=:sendmail Thanks for the input. ... doug --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Thanks, Bill, for the thorough response. Your point is well taken about the debugger. A debugger is an invaluable tool to be used as a debugging AID after one has completed the first step that you described which is:> Step through the code > mentally looking for any obvious mistakes.The problem I''m having with Rails is that I don''t know what code to step through. I read these instructions on how to make the mailer work. I follow them and when it doesn''t work, I have no idea what to do. This has got to be an easy thing. I can send a test e-mail very simply using the following shell script: #!/bin/bash /usr/sbin/sendmail -t <<\_ALTO To: ddjolley-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org From: whoever-7eXpb1DlXblBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org Subject: Test Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their party. _ALTO That tells me that I have my smtp server correctly configured for this task. So, it seems to me that the next step would be to somehow test to see whether the outgoing e-mail is actually being generated and transferred to the smpt server. It appears that that isn''t happening. I would really expect there to be some log entry telling me that something has failed. You have mentioned ''debug logging''. I wasn''t aware that there was such a thing. Presumably that advances the logging level. I''ll look into that as that may be the key to solving my problem. Thanks for the input. ... doug ~ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On May 27, 1:02 pm, doug <ddjol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Step through the code > > mentally looking for any obvious mistakes. > > The problem I''m having with Rails is that I don''t know what > code to step through.I meant stepping through the code you wrote. Not necessarily Rails code (although the debugger will take you in there if you use it; you won''t have to know what Rails code to look at, the debugger will).> You have > mentioned ''debug logging''. I wasn''t aware that there was such > a thing. Presumably that advances the logging level. I''ll look > into that as that may be the key to solving my problem.Actually I was talking about adding logging statements to your code, such as "some_variable is currently #{some_variable}" in order to see what''s going on without necessarily using a debugger (which can tell you all the same things and then some). However, now that you mention it, there is such a thing as debug logging. It''s already turned on by default if you''re running in development mode, but you can enable it for other modes by putting this in your environment.rb file: config.log_level = :debug --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---