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Diego

2007-Feb-27 23:48 UTC

Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

Hi all,

I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating because of
its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
previous login''s username and password. How can I stop the browser
from populating a text field?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Diego


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Rob Biedenharn

2007-Feb-28 01:50 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Diego wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating because of
> its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> previous login''s username and password. How can I stop the browser
> from populating a text field?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
> Diego
Try adding
  autocomplete="off"
to the input.  In Rails'' ruby, this would be
  :autocomplete => :off

-Rob

Rob Biedenharn		http://agileconsultingllc.com
Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org



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Diego

2007-Feb-28 02:02 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

Thank you Rob!

On Feb 28, 12:50 pm, Rob Biedenharn
<R...-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Diego wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating because of
> > its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> > previous login''s username and password. How can I stop the
browser
> > from populating a text field?
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Diego
>
> Try adding
>   autocomplete="off"
> to the input.  In Rails'' ruby, this would be
>   :autocomplete => :off
>
> -Rob
>
> Rob Biedenharn          http://agileconsultingllc.com
> R...-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org

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Russell Norris

2007-Feb-28 13:01 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

Unfortunately, the autocomplete attribute is IE only and doesn''t belong
to
any (X)HTML standard. Therefore browsers like Opera and Firefox may or may
not support it. Firefox, for the record, does not.

RSL

On 2/27/07, Rob Biedenharn
<Rob-GBZH0y1GwQfnZcttdmLDtcI/UQi/AW5J@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Diego wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating because of
> > its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> > previous login''s username and password. How can I stop the
browser
> > from populating a text field?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Diego
>
> Try adding
>   autocomplete="off"
> to the input.  In Rails'' ruby, this would be
>   :autocomplete => :off
>
> -Rob
>
> Rob Biedenharn          http://agileconsultingllc.com
> Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org
>
>
>
> >
>
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Russell Norris

2007-Feb-28 13:07 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

I spoke incorrectly. Sorta. I''ll stand by the fact that autocomplete is
an
invalid HTML attribute but apparently Firefox _does_ support it. However, it
needs to be on the form and not the input. Not that I''m endorsing using
invalid HTML. Ick. I''m still searching for a valid HTML solution but
wanted
to correct my error.

RSL

On 2/28/07, Russell Norris
<sconds-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
> Unfortunately, the autocomplete attribute is IE only and doesn''t
belong to
> any (X)HTML standard. Therefore browsers like Opera and Firefox may or may
> not support it. Firefox, for the record, does not.
>
> RSL
>
> On 2/27/07, Rob Biedenharn
<Rob-GBZH0y1GwQfnZcttdmLDtcI/UQi/AW5J@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Diego wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating
because of
> > > its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> > > previous login''s username and password. How can I stop
the browser
> > > from populating a text field?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Diego
> >
> > Try adding
> >   autocomplete="off"
> > to the input.  In Rails'' ruby, this would be
> >   :autocomplete => :off
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > Rob Biedenharn          http://agileconsultingllc.com
> > Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
>
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Chris Hall

2007-Feb-28 13:36 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

in firefox you have to go into the preferences and turn the feature
off under the privacy tab.

On 2/28/07, Russell Norris
<sconds-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> Unfortunately, the autocomplete attribute is IE only and doesn''t
belong to
> any (X)HTML standard. Therefore browsers like Opera and Firefox may or may
> not support it. Firefox, for the record, does not.
>
> RSL
>
>
>
> On 2/27/07, Rob Biedenharn
<Rob-GBZH0y1GwQfnZcttdmLDtcI/UQi/AW5J@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Diego wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating
because of
> > > its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> > > previous login''s username and password. How can I stop
the browser
> > > from populating a text field?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Diego
> >
> > Try adding
> >   autocomplete="off"
> > to the input.  In Rails'' ruby, this would be
> >   :autocomplete => :off
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > Rob Biedenharn          http://agileconsultingllc.com
> > Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>  >
>
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Mark Thomas

2007-Feb-28 13:38 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

> I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating because of
> its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> previous login''s username and password. How can I stop the browser
> from populating a text field?
You do know you can turn this feature off in the browser, correct?
Just checking.


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Rob Biedenharn

2007-Feb-28 14:29 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

At least on Mac, Firefox 2.0.0.2 and Safari 2.0.4 both support this  
on the <input> element.  I haven''t check recently, but I think I
first found this with respect to IE (6.0?) on Windows about a year ago.

Perhaps you need to think about the reason you want "valid" (X)HTML.
   	http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whereourstandardswentwrong

I don''t think that you''ll find a de jure standard, but this de
facto
one works for me.

-Rob

Rob Biedenharn		http://agileconsultingllc.com
Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org

On Feb 28, 2007, at 8:07 AM, Russell Norris wrote:
> I spoke incorrectly. Sorta. I''ll stand by the fact that  
> autocomplete is an invalid HTML attribute but apparently Firefox  
> _does_ support it. However, it needs to be on the form and not the  
> input. Not that I''m endorsing using invalid HTML. Ick.
I''m still
> searching for a valid HTML solution but wanted to correct my error.
>
> RSL
>
> On 2/28/07, Russell Norris
<sconds-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Unfortunately, the autocomplete attribute is IE only and doesn''t  
> belong to any (X)HTML standard. Therefore browsers like Opera and  
> Firefox may or may not support it. Firefox, for the record, does not.
>
> RSL
>
>
> On 2/27/07, Rob Biedenharn
<Rob-GBZH0y1GwQfnZcttdmLDtcI/UQi/AW5J@public.gmane.org > wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Diego wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating  
> because of
> > its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> > previous login''s username and password. How can I stop the
browser
> > from populating a text field?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Diego
>
> Try adding
>   autocomplete="off"
> to the input.  In Rails'' ruby, this would be
>   :autocomplete => :off
>
> -Rob


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alexey.Creopolis

2007-Mar-01 13:16 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

autocomplete = "off" is works well for ie, firefox 2(with enabled
privacy).
tested.

the "problem" of xhtml compliance ?
forget about this incompartibility, in this case this is only the way.


On Feb 28, 1:48 am, "Diego"
<dbar...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> Hi all,
>
> I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating because of
> its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> previous login''s username and password. How can I stop the browser
> from populating a text field?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
> Diego

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Thorsten

2007-Mar-01 13:41 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

I don''t think this should be done anyways, in the End it''s a
Browser
side feature about which the User should decide weither to use it or
not.
If the user wants to stor his username & password fields, let him do
it.
If not, he will disable it (and it''s disabled by default // most
browsers ask weither to act that way or not)

On 1 Mrz., 14:16, "alexey.Creopolis"
<alex.creopo...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:> autocomplete = "off" is works well for ie, firefox 2(with enabled
> privacy).
> tested.
>
> the "problem" of xhtml compliance ?
> forget about this incompartibility, in this case this is only the way.
>
> On Feb 28, 1:48 am, "Diego"
<dbar...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating because of
> > its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> > previous login''s username and password. How can I stop the
browser
> > from populating a text field?
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Diego- Zitierten Text ausblenden -
>
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Russell Norris

2007-Mar-01 13:44 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

I gotta agree with Thorsten. Not only are you taking away a user''s
choices
[as opposed to giving him more] but there''s the [and I can''t
stress this
enough] invalid markup issue. That''s two reasons not to use this
feature. ;)

RSL

On 3/1/07, Thorsten <duplexxx-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
>
> I don''t think this should be done anyways, in the End
it''s a Browser
> side feature about which the User should decide weither to use it or
> not.
> If the user wants to stor his username & password fields, let him do
> it.
> If not, he will disable it (and it''s disabled by default // most
> browsers ask weither to act that way or not)
>
> On 1 Mrz., 14:16, "alexey.Creopolis"
<alex.creopo...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > autocomplete = "off" is works well for ie, firefox 2(with
enabled
> > privacy).
> > tested.
> >
> > the "problem" of xhtml compliance ?
> > forget about this incompartibility, in this case this is only the way.
> >
> > On Feb 28, 1:48 am, "Diego"
<dbar...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> >
> > > I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating
because of
> > > its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
> > > previous login''s username and password. How can I stop
the browser
> > > from populating a text field?
> >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Diego- Zitierten Text ausblenden -
> >
> > - Zitierten Text anzeigen -
>
>
> >
>
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njmacinnes-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org

2007-Mar-02 14:44 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

I agree with Russel about taking away the users'' choices, but for the
record, here''s a (untested) solution using javascript:

function blankFields()
{
document.myform.username.value = "";
document.myform.password.value = "";
}

Then you use <body onload="blankfields();">.

-N

On 28/02/07, Rob Biedenharn
<Rob-GBZH0y1GwQfnZcttdmLDtcI/UQi/AW5J@public.gmane.org>
wrote:>
> At least on Mac, Firefox 2.0.0.2 and Safari 2.0.4 both support this on the
> <input> element.  I haven''t check recently, but I think I
first found this
> with respect to IE (6.0?) on Windows about a year ago.
> Perhaps you need to think about the reason you want "valid"
(X)HTML.
>    http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whereourstandardswentwrong
>
> I don''t think that you''ll find a *de jure *standard, but
this *de facto* one
> works for me.
>
> -Rob
>
> Rob Biedenharn
http://agileconsultingllc.comRob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org
>
> On Feb 28, 2007, at 8:07 AM, Russell Norris wrote:
>
> I spoke incorrectly. Sorta. I''ll stand by the fact that
autocomplete is an
> invalid HTML attribute but apparently Firefox _does_ support it. However,
it
> needs to be on the form and not the input. Not that I''m endorsing
using
> invalid HTML. Ick. I''m still searching for a valid HTML solution
but wanted
> to correct my error.
>
> RSL
>
> On 2/28/07, Russell Norris
<sconds-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, the autocomplete attribute is IE only and
doesn''t belong
> > to any (X)HTML standard. Therefore browsers like Opera and Firefox may
or
> > may not support it. Firefox, for the record, does not.
> >
> > RSL
> >
> > On 2/27/07, Rob Biedenharn
<Rob-GBZH0y1GwQfnZcttdmLDtcI/UQi/AW5J@public.gmane.org > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Diego wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating
because
> > > of
> > > > its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it
shows the
> > > > previous login''s username and password. How can I
stop the browser
> > > > from populating a text field?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Diego
> > >
> > > Try adding
> > >   autocomplete="off"
> > > to the input.  In Rails'' ruby, this would be
> > >   :autocomplete => :off
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> >
>
>
> >
>
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Thomas Fuchs

2007-Mar-03 00:01 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

if you''re worried about XHTML validation failing, you can do dirty  
tricks like:

Event.observe(window,''load'',function(){
  
$$(''input'').invoke(''setAttribute'',''autocomplete'',''off'');
});

(tested this only in FF, YMMV).

best,
thomas

Am 02.03.2007 um 15:44 schrieb
njmacinnes-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org:
> I agree with Russel about taking away the users'' choices, but for
> the record, here''s a (untested) solution using javascript:
>
> function blankFields()
> {
> document.myform.username.value = "";
> document.myform.password.value = "";
> }
>
> Then you use <body onload="blankfields();">.
>
> -N
>
> On 28/02/07, Rob Biedenharn <
Rob-GBZH0y1GwQfnZcttdmLDtcI/UQi/AW5J@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> At least on Mac, Firefox 2.0.0.2 and Safari 2.0.4 both support this  
> on the <input> element.  I haven''t check recently, but I
think I
> first found this with respect to IE (6.0?) on Windows about a year  
> ago.
>
> Perhaps you need to think about the reason you want "valid"
(X)HTML.
>   	http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whereourstandardswentwrong
>
> I don''t think that you''ll find a de jure standard, but
this de
> facto one works for me.
>
> -Rob
>
> Rob Biedenharn	 http://agileconsultingllc.com
> Rob-xa9cJyRlE0mWcWVYNo9pwxS2lgjeYSpx@public.gmane.org
>
> On Feb 28, 2007, at 8:07 AM, Russell Norris wrote:
>
>> I spoke incorrectly. Sorta. I''ll stand by the fact that  
>> autocomplete is an invalid HTML attribute but apparently Firefox  
>> _does_ support it. However, it needs to be on the form and not the  
>> input. Not that I''m endorsing using invalid HTML. Ick.
I''m still
>> searching for a valid HTML solution but wanted to correct my error.
>>
>> RSL
>>
>> On 2/28/07, Russell Norris
<sconds-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > wrote:
>> Unfortunately, the autocomplete attribute is IE only and
doesn''t
>> belong to any (X)HTML standard. Therefore browsers like Opera and  
>> Firefox may or may not support it. Firefox, for the record, does not.
>>
>> RSL
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/07, Rob Biedenharn <
Rob-GBZH0y1GwQfnZcttdmLDtcI/UQi/AW5J@public.gmane.org > wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Diego wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have a user login form which the browser keeps populating  
>> because of
>> > its form fill feature. So when anyone goes to log in it shows the
>> > previous login''s username and password. How can I stop
the browser
>> > from populating a text field?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Diego
>>
>> Try adding
>>   autocomplete="off"
>> to the input.  In Rails'' ruby, this would be
>>   :autocomplete => :off
>>
>> -Rob
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Russell Norris

2007-Mar-03 14:00 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

While this works... It''s kinda the equivalent of changing your answers
on a
test after the teacher''s already graded it. Either ignore the
restraints of
validation or follow them but this is just pretending. [God, I hope that
doesn''t sound super-snotty.] I agree with Rob in his [way] previous
comment
to me about questioning your rationale for following standards but I do
always aim for valid markup. It just seems weird not to. To me. YMMV.

RSL

On 3/2/07, Thomas Fuchs <t.fuchs-moWQItti3gBl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
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> if you''re worried about XHTML validation failing, you can do dirty
> tricks like:
>
> Event.observe(window,''load'',function(){
>   
$$(''input'').invoke(''setAttribute'',''autocomplete'',''off'');
> });
>
> (tested this only in FF, YMMV).
>
> best,
> thomas
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2007-Mar-03 15:39 UTC

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Re: Stop browser from "form filling" fields.

If validation is used as a tool for making sure the page structure  
itself is sound (as opposed to following the standards for their own  
sake), it can help-- some things you want to have just aren''t covered  
by the standards, or don''t work because browsers don''t
implement them
correctly.

So a mixture of having pages validate (and tools aware of XHTML  
working nicely) and "injecting" workarounds for both of the  
aforementioned issues is working out fine. For me. :)

The "autocomplete" attribuet is probably a bad example anyway, as  
normally you always want this the way the user decides, except for  
certain cases (for example if you implement server-side  
autocompleting, and browsers interfere).

Alas, I don''t think there''s one single unified answer for how
to deal
with this, it really depends on the circumstances, your "style" of  
coding, etc.

Best,
Thomas

Am 03.03.2007 um 15:00 schrieb Russell Norris:
> While this works... It''s kinda the equivalent of changing your  
> answers on a test after the teacher''s already graded it. Either  
> ignore the restraints of validation or follow them but this is just  
> pretending. [God, I hope that doesn''t sound super-snotty.] I agree
> with Rob in his [way] previous comment to me about questioning your  
> rationale for following standards but I do always aim for valid  
> markup. It just seems weird not to. To me. YMMV.
>
> RSL
>
> On 3/2/07, Thomas Fuchs
<t.fuchs-moWQItti3gBl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> if you''re worried about XHTML validation failing, you can do dirty
> tricks like:
>
> Event.observe(window,''load'',function(){
>   
$$(''input'').invoke(''setAttribute'',''autocomplete'',''off'');
> });
>
> (tested this only in FF, YMMV).
>
> best,
> thomas
>
>
> >

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