Rails - Feb 2007 - transaction is started before a validation [c/o Rails-Core]

Hi all..

I was going to submit this as a bug...but thought I should learn more
first ...

When #save is called on an ActiveRecord a transaction is started to
catch any potential problems and try and recover from them.

This is cool.

But..

as a result of the Transaction module being mixed in quite late in the
game, the transactions system is one of the *first* things to get
initiated.........is the save_with_transaction system intentionally
called before the validations system?

It seems wasteful to begin the transactions block if the call to
#valid? simply returns false at the last minute?

Can anyone give me any insight into this system?, and can I start an
agrument about allowing validations to occur *before* the
transactions!

Thanks


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