This is off-topic. I''ve been wondering about Ruby applications released under the GPL. What does it exactly mean? The GPL was supposed to apply to software that was explicitly built into the same executable with a GPL licensed software. That is tougher to understand for web software. I guess you could argue that if you use a controller/ view, you must then release the modified file in source code to people who are your customers under the GPL license. But, it does not make sense for a stylesheet or something, does it? If I want to use a stylesheet from a GPL project, what are my obligations? It doesn''t make sense to release the source code of my application because of that. Just wondering what you think. Cheers Mohit. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org
2006-Sep-18 09:10 UTC
Re: [OT] What does GPL mean?
Hi -- On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Mohit Sindhwani wrote:> > This is off-topic. > > I''ve been wondering about Ruby applications released under the GPL. > What does it exactly mean? > > The GPL was supposed to apply to software that was explicitly built into > the same executable with a GPL licensed software. That is tougher to > understand for web software. I guess you could argue that if you use a > controller/ view, you must then release the modified file in source code > to people who are your customers under the GPL license. > > But, it does not make sense for a stylesheet or something, does it? If > I want to use a stylesheet from a GPL project, what are my obligations? > It doesn''t make sense to release the source code of my application > because of that. > > Just wondering what you think.I think you''re right that it''s off-topic. It''s probably hopeless, but I''d like to suggest that we NOT trigger The Licensing Discussion, for once. David -- David A. Black | dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org Author of "Ruby for Rails" [1] | Ruby/Rails training & consultancy [3] DABlog (DAB''s Weblog) [2] | Co-director, Ruby Central, Inc. [4] [1] http://www.manning.com/black | [3] http://www.rubypowerandlight.com [2] http://dablog.rubypal.com | [4] http://www.rubycentral.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org
2006-Sep-18 09:25 UTC
Re: [OT] What does GPL mean?
Hi -- On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org wrote:> > Hi -- > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Mohit Sindhwani wrote: > >> >> This is off-topic. >> >> I''ve been wondering about Ruby applications released under the GPL. >> What does it exactly mean? >> >> The GPL was supposed to apply to software that was explicitly built into >> the same executable with a GPL licensed software. That is tougher to >> understand for web software. I guess you could argue that if you use a >> controller/ view, you must then release the modified file in source code >> to people who are your customers under the GPL license. >> >> But, it does not make sense for a stylesheet or something, does it? If >> I want to use a stylesheet from a GPL project, what are my obligations? >> It doesn''t make sense to release the source code of my application >> because of that. >> >> Just wondering what you think. > > I think you''re right that it''s off-topic. It''s probably hopeless, but > I''d like to suggest that we NOT trigger The Licensing Discussion, for > once.At the risk of being guilty of triggering the Off-Topic Meta-Discussion, I should add that I don''t mean to pounce on you or single you out, Mohit -- it''s just that licensing posts have a way of spawning very long and OT threads, and it seems to be something that keeps happening. David -- David A. Black | dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org Author of "Ruby for Rails" [1] | Ruby/Rails training & consultancy [3] DABlog (DAB''s Weblog) [2] | Co-director, Ruby Central, Inc. [4] [1] http://www.manning.com/black | [3] http://www.rubypowerandlight.com [2] http://dablog.rubypal.com | [4] http://www.rubycentral.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org wrote:> Hi -- > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org wrote: > > >> Hi -- >> >> >> >> I think you''re right that it''s off-topic. It''s probably hopeless, but >> I''d like to suggest that we NOT trigger The Licensing Discussion, for >> once. >> > > At the risk of being guilty of triggering the Off-Topic > Meta-Discussion, I should add that I don''t mean to pounce on you or > single you out, Mohit -- it''s just that licensing posts have a way of > spawning very long and OT threads, and it seems to be something that > keeps happening. > > > David > >No worries! Understood :) Cheers Mohit. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Mohit: Wikipedia has a page on software licenses that will lead you to more information than you care to absorb (I''m sure), as well as many, MANY more appropriate places to discuss such things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_licenses enjoy. c. Mohit Sindhwani wrote:> dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org wrote: >>> I''d like to suggest that we NOT trigger The Licensing Discussion, for >> David >> >> > No worries! Understood :) > Cheers > Mohit.-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Cayce Balara wrote:> Mohit: > > Wikipedia has a page on software licenses that will lead you to more > information than you care to absorb (I''m sure), as well as many, MANY > more appropriate places to discuss such things. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_licenses > > enjoy. > c. > > > Mohit Sindhwani wrote: > >> dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org wrote: >> >>>> I''d like to suggest that we NOT trigger The Licensing Discussion, for >>>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >> No worries! Understood :) >> Cheers >> Mohit. >>Thanks for the link! Actually, I have read similar articles and my confusion was specific to what happens if there is a web application project that is released under the GPL (for example, Pandora [1]) and I want to use the stylesheet it uses. I don''t want any of the other code, just the stylesheet. In the case of executable code, I understand the usage requirements, but for a stylesheet I''m not sure what is defined a ''derivative work'' and how far it extends. But, this thread is closed :D for business (to continue) Cheers Mohit. [1] Pandora - http://rubyforge.org/projects/pandora/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
It seems to me that Pandora''s license is only meant to apply to the software, not the stylesheets that it uses. The license mentions the "software;" I wouldn''t say a stylesheet is part of that. Whether it is or isn''t, though, I think the best course of action would be to send them an email and ask their opinion. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---