Rails - Nov 2005 - SPF record for lists.rubyonrails.org / rubyonrails.com etc

hey all,

would be good to have an SPF record for rubyonrails.com so my spam  
filter doesn''t (occasionally)  misinterpret list messages as spam..

also, SPF records are a good thing,

see: http://www.openspf.org/wizard.html

best,

_alex


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alex black wrote:
> would be good to have an SPF record for rubyonrails.com so my spam 
> filter doesn''t (occasionally)  misinterpret list messages as
spam..
> 
> also, SPF records are a good thing,
> 
> see: http://www.openspf.org/wizard.html
That wouldn''t work. Mailman, the list server software for this list, 
forwards the mail that you send to everyone on the list, so you are the 
sender. You, and everyone else who contributes to this list, would have 
to have an SPF record that noted that rubyonrails.com was allowed to 
forward mail for them. This means that if you use gmail, you need to 
convince Google to add this record.

Actually, the reason that some messages are being marked as spam is 
probably _because_ the sender has an SPF record that doesn''t include 
rubyonrails.com as a source.

Rubyonrails.com would have to switch to software that resent the mail 
from some user at rubyonrails.com.

(By the way, if you are checking on what I am saying, look at someone 
else''s mail, not this one. I am reading this as a newsgroup through
gmane.)

I agree that SPF records are a good thing, but this issue of forwarding 
is a thorny one which has not been solved.

Ray

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On 24/11/2005, at 12:51 PM, Ray Baxter wrote:
> alex black wrote:
>
>> would be good to have an SPF record for rubyonrails.com so my spam  
>> filter doesn''t (occasionally)  misinterpret list messages as
spam..
>> also, SPF records are a good thing,
>> see: http://www.openspf.org/wizard.html
>
> That wouldn''t work. Mailman, the list server software for this  
> list, forwards the mail that you send to everyone on the list, so  
> you are the sender. You, and everyone else who contributes to this  
> list, would have to have an SPF record that noted that  
> rubyonrails.com was allowed to forward mail for them. This means  
> that if you use gmail, you need to convince Google to add this record.
>
> Actually, the reason that some messages are being marked as spam is  
> probably _because_ the sender has an SPF record that doesn''t  
> include rubyonrails.com as a source.
>
> Rubyonrails.com would have to switch to software that resent the  
> mail from some user at rubyonrails.com.
>
> (By the way, if you are checking on what I am saying, look at  
> someone else''s mail, not this one. I am reading this as a
newsgroup
> through gmane.)
>
> I agree that SPF records are a good thing, but this issue of  
> forwarding is a thorny one which has not been solved.
Mailman changes the envelope sender to rails- 
bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/qmg0mHFk7eL@public.gmane.org I''ve set my
SPF checking software
(Courier MTA) to allow though emails where the From: header doesn''t  
match SPF records but the envelope sender does. It''s the best we can  
do for now, short of adding an exception for every list we join....

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