This is probably a Ruby questions as it really relates to creating classes, but what I''d like to do is take the roles and permissions tables used by the access control list example for the login generator out of ActiveRecord::Base, and instead hard-code them into Rails models. Any suggestions, or quick-pointers to help get started with mixing an AR::B model (users) with with hard coded classes (roles, permissions)? I would like to keep the class inheritances so I could do Account.find(@current_account).roles.find(@role_id).users and things like that. thanks -- Mark Beattie Easy Schedule Management http://easy-online-schedule.com