This is a weird one: My app works fine on our local box with webrick. After uploading to TxD server, the app starts behaving weirdly. I make some edits to one of the controllers and my changes don''t seem to be going through. So I go ahead and change the name of the controller file. The page loads without error. I figure maybe I''m in the wrong directory, so I change the app''s directory name. Great, the app throws a 404. Next step: change "app" to "app2". Error. Now I change "controllers" to "controllers2". No error! Changing the names of "models" or "views" breaks the app, but changing "controllers" doesn''t. After changing the directory name (and corresponding name in the config) and restarting lighttpd, I manage to break the app by renaming "controllers". WTF? - Ben ___________________ Ben Jackson Diretor de Desenvolvimento ben-p14LI7ZcAE/pVLaUnt/cCQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org http://www.incomumdesign.com
Demetrius Nunes
2005-Jun-08 02:58 UTC
Re: Rails/lighttpd: Changes to controller not being seen?
Ben Jackson wrote:> My app works fine on our local box with webrick. After uploading to TxD > server, the app starts behaving weirdly. I make some edits to one of the > controllers and my changes don''t seem to be going through. So I go ahead > and change the name of the controller file. The page loads without > error. I figure maybe I''m in the wrong directory, so I change the app''s > directory name. Great, the app throws a 404. Next step: change "app" to > "app2". Error. Now I change "controllers" to "controllers2". No error! > Changing the names of "models" or "views" breaks the app, but changing > "controllers" doesn''t. After changing the directory name (and > corresponding name in the config) and restarting lighttpd, I manage to > break the app by renaming "controllers". WTF?This is certainly related with you running as ''production'' environment in the TxD server. In the production environment, code that resides on controllers, models and so forth gets all cached in memory, so any changes to files does not affect the running application. Only if you restart the lighttpd process, you''ll see the changes. The only code changes visible in the production environment while the app is running are changes you make to non-cached view (.rhtml) files. rgds Dema -- http://dema.ruby.com.br - Rails development from a .NET perspective
Matthew Margolis
2005-Jun-08 03:37 UTC
Re: Rails/lighttpd: Changes to controller not being seen?
If you are in production mode and you make changes like that you will probably need to restart lighttpd for them to take effect. Matt Margolis Ben Jackson wrote:> This is a weird one: > > My app works fine on our local box with webrick. After uploading to > TxD server, the app starts behaving weirdly. I make some edits to one > of the controllers and my changes don''t seem to be going through. So I > go ahead and change the name of the controller file. The page loads > without error. I figure maybe I''m in the wrong directory, so I change > the app''s directory name. Great, the app throws a 404. Next step: > change "app" to "app2". Error. Now I change "controllers" to > "controllers2". No error! Changing the names of "models" or "views" > breaks the app, but changing "controllers" doesn''t. After changing the > directory name (and corresponding name in the config) and restarting > lighttpd, I manage to break the app by renaming "controllers". WTF? > > - Ben > ___________________ > Ben Jackson > Diretor de Desenvolvimento > > ben-p14LI7ZcAE/pVLaUnt/cCQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org > http://www.incomumdesign.com > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Ben Jackson
2005-Jun-08 23:26 UTC
lighttpd caching problems [was: Rails/lighttpd: Changes to controller not being seen?]
I switched to development mode and things seemed to work ok... however at some point lighttpd started acting up again and pulling files from the cache. At first changing the name of the folder (and the corresponding config path) and restarting lighttpd solved the issue, however after a little while some bugs from previous versions of the app started showing up. Now I have changed the name at least 4 or 5 times and lighttpd won''t even serve the app: -bash-2.05b$ lighttpd -D -f lighttpd/lighttpd.conf Couldn''t write to /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log (No such file or directory - /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ routing_error.rhtml [Errno::ENOENT]) [Wed Jun 08 23:13:18 GMT 2005] Dispatcher failed to catch: No such file or directory - /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ routing_error.rhtml (Errno::ENOENT) /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read'' /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read_template_file'' The path /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log is from an old version of dispatch.fcgi that specified the RAILS_ROOT path absolutely. I changed the path to RAILS_ROOT = File.dirname(__FILE__) + "/../", however this error is still showing up in lighttpd''s error log. id_survey_deploy_new is one of the older names of the directory from when I was changing it. I have turned off mod_compress to no avail. My head hurts :( Thanks, Ben On Jun 7, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Demetrius Nunes wrote:> Ben Jackson wrote: >> My app works fine on our local box with webrick. After uploading to >> TxD server, the app starts behaving weirdly. I make some edits to one >> of the controllers and my changes don''t seem to be going through. So >> I go ahead and change the name of the controller file. The page loads >> without error. I figure maybe I''m in the wrong directory, so I change >> the app''s directory name. Great, the app throws a 404. Next step: >> change "app" to "app2". Error. Now I change "controllers" to >> "controllers2". No error! Changing the names of "models" or "views" >> breaks the app, but changing "controllers" doesn''t. After changing >> the directory name (and corresponding name in the config) and >> restarting lighttpd, I manage to break the app by renaming >> "controllers". WTF? > > This is certainly related with you running as ''production'' environment > in the TxD server. In the production environment, code that resides on > controllers, models and so forth gets all cached in memory, so any > changes to files does not affect the running application. Only if you > restart the lighttpd process, you''ll see the changes. > > The only code changes visible in the production environment while the > app is running are changes you make to non-cached view (.rhtml) files. > > rgds > Dema > -- > http://dema.ruby.com.br - Rails development from a .NET perspective > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Ben Jackson
2005-Jun-08 23:54 UTC
Re: lighttpd caching problems [was: Rails/lighttpd: Changes to controller not being seen?]
Update: after waiting half an hour and restarting lighttpd it seems to be working ok. *crosses fingers* - Ben On Jun 8, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Ben Jackson wrote:> I switched to development mode and things seemed to work ok... however > at some point lighttpd started acting up again and pulling files from > the cache. At first changing the name of the folder (and the > corresponding config path) and restarting lighttpd solved the issue, > however after a little while some bugs from previous versions of the > app started showing up. Now I have changed the name at least 4 or 5 > times and lighttpd won''t even serve the app: > > -bash-2.05b$ lighttpd -D -f lighttpd/lighttpd.conf > Couldn''t write to /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log > (No such file or directory - > /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ > rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ > routing_error.rhtml [Errno::ENOENT]) > [Wed Jun 08 23:13:18 GMT 2005] Dispatcher failed to catch: No such > file or directory - > /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ > rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ > routing_error.rhtml (Errno::ENOENT) > > /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ > rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read'' > > /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ > rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read_template_file'' > > The path /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log is from > an old version of dispatch.fcgi that specified the RAILS_ROOT path > absolutely. I changed the path to RAILS_ROOT = File.dirname(__FILE__) > + "/../", however this error is still showing up in lighttpd''s error > log. id_survey_deploy_new is one of the older names of the directory > from when I was changing it. > > I have turned off mod_compress to no avail. My head hurts :( > > Thanks, > Ben > > On Jun 7, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Demetrius Nunes wrote: > >> Ben Jackson wrote: >>> My app works fine on our local box with webrick. After uploading to >>> TxD server, the app starts behaving weirdly. I make some edits to >>> one of the controllers and my changes don''t seem to be going >>> through. So I go ahead and change the name of the controller file. >>> The page loads without error. I figure maybe I''m in the wrong >>> directory, so I change the app''s directory name. Great, the app >>> throws a 404. Next step: change "app" to "app2". Error. Now I change >>> "controllers" to "controllers2". No error! Changing the names of >>> "models" or "views" breaks the app, but changing "controllers" >>> doesn''t. After changing the directory name (and corresponding name >>> in the config) and restarting lighttpd, I manage to break the app by >>> renaming "controllers". WTF? >> >> This is certainly related with you running as ''production'' >> environment in the TxD server. In the production environment, code >> that resides on controllers, models and so forth gets all cached in >> memory, so any changes to files does not affect the running >> application. Only if you restart the lighttpd process, you''ll see the >> changes. >> >> The only code changes visible in the production environment while the >> app is running are changes you make to non-cached view (.rhtml) >> files. >> >> rgds >> Dema >> -- >> http://dema.ruby.com.br - Rails development from a .NET perspective >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Ben Jackson
2005-Jun-09 19:15 UTC
Re: lighttpd caching problems [was: Rails/lighttpd: Changes to controller not being seen?]
Update: Just checked today and the old bugs are resurfacing. I have changed nothing in the config. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this? Thanks, Ben *Pulls hair in frustration* On Jun 8, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Ben Jackson wrote:> Update: after waiting half an hour and restarting lighttpd it seems to > be working ok. > *crosses fingers* > > - Ben > > On Jun 8, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > >> I switched to development mode and things seemed to work ok... >> however at some point lighttpd started acting up again and pulling >> files from the cache. At first changing the name of the folder (and >> the corresponding config path) and restarting lighttpd solved the >> issue, however after a little while some bugs from previous versions >> of the app started showing up. Now I have changed the name at least 4 >> or 5 times and lighttpd won''t even serve the app: >> >> -bash-2.05b$ lighttpd -D -f lighttpd/lighttpd.conf >> Couldn''t write to /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log >> (No such file or directory - >> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ >> rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ >> routing_error.rhtml [Errno::ENOENT]) >> [Wed Jun 08 23:13:18 GMT 2005] Dispatcher failed to catch: No such >> file or directory - >> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ >> rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ >> routing_error.rhtml (Errno::ENOENT) >> >> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ >> rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read'' >> >> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ >> rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read_template_file'' >> >> The path /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log is from >> an old version of dispatch.fcgi that specified the RAILS_ROOT path >> absolutely. I changed the path to RAILS_ROOT = File.dirname(__FILE__) >> + "/../", however this error is still showing up in lighttpd''s error >> log. id_survey_deploy_new is one of the older names of the directory >> from when I was changing it. >> >> I have turned off mod_compress to no avail. My head hurts :( >> >> Thanks, >> Ben >> >> On Jun 7, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Demetrius Nunes wrote: >> >>> Ben Jackson wrote: >>>> My app works fine on our local box with webrick. After uploading to >>>> TxD server, the app starts behaving weirdly. I make some edits to >>>> one of the controllers and my changes don''t seem to be going >>>> through. So I go ahead and change the name of the controller file. >>>> The page loads without error. I figure maybe I''m in the wrong >>>> directory, so I change the app''s directory name. Great, the app >>>> throws a 404. Next step: change "app" to "app2". Error. Now I >>>> change "controllers" to "controllers2". No error! Changing the >>>> names of "models" or "views" breaks the app, but changing >>>> "controllers" doesn''t. After changing the directory name (and >>>> corresponding name in the config) and restarting lighttpd, I manage >>>> to break the app by renaming "controllers". WTF? >>> >>> This is certainly related with you running as ''production'' >>> environment in the TxD server. In the production environment, code >>> that resides on controllers, models and so forth gets all cached in >>> memory, so any changes to files does not affect the running >>> application. Only if you restart the lighttpd process, you''ll see >>> the changes. >>> >>> The only code changes visible in the production environment while >>> the app is running are changes you make to non-cached view (.rhtml) >>> files. >>> >>> rgds >>> Dema >>> -- >>> http://dema.ruby.com.br - Rails development from a .NET perspective >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rails mailing list >>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Tobias Luetke
2005-Jun-09 21:31 UTC
Re: lighttpd caching problems [was: Rails/lighttpd: Changes to controller not being seen?]
Why don''t you develop on localhost, make sure your app works and rsync it to production when everything is alright. Remote dev always ends up in a mess like this. Some of the problems you are seeing could be results of syntax errors in the ruby files. Try to integrate ruby -c <current file> into your Editor on a hotkey. That will check the syntax of the file. On 6/9/05, Ben Jackson <ben-p14LI7ZcAE/pVLaUnt/cCQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Update: Just checked today and the old bugs are resurfacing. I have > changed nothing in the config. Does anyone have any idea what might be > causing this? Thanks, > > Ben > > *Pulls hair in frustration* > > On Jun 8, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > > > Update: after waiting half an hour and restarting lighttpd it seems to > > be working ok. > > *crosses fingers* > > > > - Ben > > > > On Jun 8, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > > > >> I switched to development mode and things seemed to work ok... > >> however at some point lighttpd started acting up again and pulling > >> files from the cache. At first changing the name of the folder (and > >> the corresponding config path) and restarting lighttpd solved the > >> issue, however after a little while some bugs from previous versions > >> of the app started showing up. Now I have changed the name at least 4 > >> or 5 times and lighttpd won''t even serve the app: > >> > >> -bash-2.05b$ lighttpd -D -f lighttpd/lighttpd.conf > >> Couldn''t write to /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log > >> (No such file or directory - > >> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ > >> rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ > >> routing_error.rhtml [Errno::ENOENT]) > >> [Wed Jun 08 23:13:18 GMT 2005] Dispatcher failed to catch: No such > >> file or directory - > >> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ > >> rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ > >> routing_error.rhtml (Errno::ENOENT) > >> > >> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ > >> rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read'' > >> > >> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..//vendor/ > >> rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read_template_file'' > >> > >> The path /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log is from > >> an old version of dispatch.fcgi that specified the RAILS_ROOT path > >> absolutely. I changed the path to RAILS_ROOT = File.dirname(__FILE__) > >> + "/../", however this error is still showing up in lighttpd''s error > >> log. id_survey_deploy_new is one of the older names of the directory > >> from when I was changing it. > >> > >> I have turned off mod_compress to no avail. My head hurts :( > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Ben > >> > >> On Jun 7, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Demetrius Nunes wrote: > >> > >>> Ben Jackson wrote: > >>>> My app works fine on our local box with webrick. After uploading to > >>>> TxD server, the app starts behaving weirdly. I make some edits to > >>>> one of the controllers and my changes don''t seem to be going > >>>> through. So I go ahead and change the name of the controller file. > >>>> The page loads without error. I figure maybe I''m in the wrong > >>>> directory, so I change the app''s directory name. Great, the app > >>>> throws a 404. Next step: change "app" to "app2". Error. Now I > >>>> change "controllers" to "controllers2". No error! Changing the > >>>> names of "models" or "views" breaks the app, but changing > >>>> "controllers" doesn''t. After changing the directory name (and > >>>> corresponding name in the config) and restarting lighttpd, I manage > >>>> to break the app by renaming "controllers". WTF? > >>> > >>> This is certainly related with you running as ''production'' > >>> environment in the TxD server. In the production environment, code > >>> that resides on controllers, models and so forth gets all cached in > >>> memory, so any changes to files does not affect the running > >>> application. Only if you restart the lighttpd process, you''ll see > >>> the changes. > >>> > >>> The only code changes visible in the production environment while > >>> the app is running are changes you make to non-cached view (.rhtml) > >>> files. > >>> > >>> rgds > >>> Dema > >>> -- > >>> http://dema.ruby.com.br - Rails development from a .NET perspective > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Rails mailing list > >>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > >>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Tobi http://www.snowdevil.ca - Snowboards that don''t suck http://typo.leetsoft.com - Open source weblog engine http://blog.leetsoft.com - Technical weblog
Ben Jackson
2005-Jun-09 22:40 UTC
Re: lighttpd caching problems [was: Rails/lighttpd: Changes to controller not being seen?]
We are developing on localhost. We put a production version on the server, found some error messages that hadn''t been localized, and upped a new version via ftp, at which point we started wondering why the app wasn''t reflecting our changes. Also we were on dialup at the time (just moved), so editing on the server was an unfortunate necessity :) I have syntax-checked the entire app and found no problems. I have also passed this thread to the lighttpd list. Thanks, Ben On Jun 9, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Tobias Luetke wrote:> Why don''t you develop on localhost, make sure your app works and rsync > it to production when everything is alright. Remote dev always ends up > in a mess like this. > > Some of the problems you are seeing could be results of syntax errors > in the ruby files. Try to integrate ruby -c <current file> into your > Editor on a hotkey. That will check the syntax of the file. > > On 6/9/05, Ben Jackson <ben-p14LI7ZcAE/pVLaUnt/cCQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> Update: Just checked today and the old bugs are resurfacing. I have >> changed nothing in the config. Does anyone have any idea what might be >> causing this? Thanks, >> >> Ben >> >> *Pulls hair in frustration* >> >> On Jun 8, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: >> >>> Update: after waiting half an hour and restarting lighttpd it seems >>> to >>> be working ok. >>> *crosses fingers* >>> >>> - Ben >>> >>> On Jun 8, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: >>> >>>> I switched to development mode and things seemed to work ok... >>>> however at some point lighttpd started acting up again and pulling >>>> files from the cache. At first changing the name of the folder (and >>>> the corresponding config path) and restarting lighttpd solved the >>>> issue, however after a little while some bugs from previous versions >>>> of the app started showing up. Now I have changed the name at least >>>> 4 >>>> or 5 times and lighttpd won''t even serve the app: >>>> >>>> -bash-2.05b$ lighttpd -D -f lighttpd/lighttpd.conf >>>> Couldn''t write to >>>> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log >>>> (No such file or directory - >>>> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..// >>>> vendor/ >>>> rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ >>>> routing_error.rhtml [Errno::ENOENT]) >>>> [Wed Jun 08 23:13:18 GMT 2005] Dispatcher failed to catch: No such >>>> file or directory - >>>> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..// >>>> vendor/ >>>> rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/templates/rescues/ >>>> routing_error.rhtml (Errno::ENOENT) >>>> >>>> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..// >>>> vendor/ >>>> rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read'' >>>> >>>> /home/incomum/sites/id_survey_deploy_new/public/../config/..// >>>> vendor/ >>>> rails/actionpack/lib/action_view/base.rb:273:in `read_template_file'' >>>> >>>> The path /home/incomum/sites/id_survey/log/fastcgi.crash.log is from >>>> an old version of dispatch.fcgi that specified the RAILS_ROOT path >>>> absolutely. I changed the path to RAILS_ROOT = >>>> File.dirname(__FILE__) >>>> + "/../", however this error is still showing up in lighttpd''s error >>>> log. id_survey_deploy_new is one of the older names of the directory >>>> from when I was changing it. >>>> >>>> I have turned off mod_compress to no avail. My head hurts :( >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Demetrius Nunes wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ben Jackson wrote: >>>>>> My app works fine on our local box with webrick. After uploading >>>>>> to >>>>>> TxD server, the app starts behaving weirdly. I make some edits to >>>>>> one of the controllers and my changes don''t seem to be going >>>>>> through. So I go ahead and change the name of the controller file. >>>>>> The page loads without error. I figure maybe I''m in the wrong >>>>>> directory, so I change the app''s directory name. Great, the app >>>>>> throws a 404. Next step: change "app" to "app2". Error. Now I >>>>>> change "controllers" to "controllers2". No error! Changing the >>>>>> names of "models" or "views" breaks the app, but changing >>>>>> "controllers" doesn''t. After changing the directory name (and >>>>>> corresponding name in the config) and restarting lighttpd, I >>>>>> manage >>>>>> to break the app by renaming "controllers". WTF? >>>>> >>>>> This is certainly related with you running as ''production'' >>>>> environment in the TxD server. In the production environment, code >>>>> that resides on controllers, models and so forth gets all cached in >>>>> memory, so any changes to files does not affect the running >>>>> application. Only if you restart the lighttpd process, you''ll see >>>>> the changes. >>>>> >>>>> The only code changes visible in the production environment while >>>>> the app is running are changes you make to non-cached view (.rhtml) >>>>> files. >>>>> >>>>> rgds >>>>> Dema >>>>> -- >>>>> http://dema.ruby.com.br - Rails development from a .NET perspective >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rails mailing list >>>>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>>>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rails mailing list >>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> > > > -- > Tobi > http://www.snowdevil.ca - Snowboards that don''t suck > http://typo.leetsoft.com - Open source weblog engine > http://blog.leetsoft.com - Technical weblog > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >