Has anyone expirience to install RoR on a shared hosting server, with
only ftp access? I believe that''s not possible, isn''t it? Or
do you know
another more lightweight ruby framework? Any ideas?
I don''t want to use PHP any more since i dicovered Rails!!
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:52:23 +0100, Norman Timmler <norman.timmler-tQBQu56/4+8RLu74MAVXfw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Has anyone expirience to install RoR on a shared hosting server, with > only ftp access? I believe that''s not possible, isn''t it? Or do you know > another more lightweight ruby framework? Any ideas?I don''t think it would be possible with only ftp since you have to actually install stuff, it''s not enough to simply copy files. -- Urban Artography http://artography.ath.cx
No matter what Ruby framework you may find, I doubt any of them would run w/o shell access and proper installation. After all, any Ruby framework needs "Ruby" to work. So if you can''t get Ruby installed and working by itself on your host, then there is no point in looking for a framework. On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:52:03 +0100, Norman Timmler <norman-QkIQCVqxERM@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > Has anyone expirience to install RoR on a shared hosting server, with > > > only ftp access? I believe that''s not possible, isn''t it? Or do you know > > > another more lightweight ruby framework? Any ideas? > > > > I don''t think it would be possible with only ftp since you have to > > actually install stuff, it''s not enough to simply copy files. > > You can install rails without shell access, as i tried today. I know > this is not the normal way, but it works. The main problem now is, that > the provider has not all necessary ruby modules installed. I now cancel > this experiment. > > So, once again: Does anyone have an idea of a lightweight Ruby > framework? > > -- > Norman Timmler > Holländische Reihe 31 > 22765 Hamburg > > +49 (0)40 / 43 25 10 80 > > mailto:norman-QkIQCVqxERM@public.gmane.org > > _ > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML email X > & vCards / \ > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- - Ramin
> > Has anyone expirience to install RoR on a shared hosting server, with > > only ftp access? I believe that''s not possible, isn''t it? Or do you know > > another more lightweight ruby framework? Any ideas? > > I don''t think it would be possible with only ftp since you have to > actually install stuff, it''s not enough to simply copy files.You can install rails without shell access, as i tried today. I know this is not the normal way, but it works. The main problem now is, that the provider has not all necessary ruby modules installed. I now cancel this experiment. So, once again: Does anyone have an idea of a lightweight Ruby framework? -- Norman Timmler Holländische Reihe 31 22765 Hamburg +49 (0)40 / 43 25 10 80 mailto:norman-QkIQCVqxERM@public.gmane.org _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X & vCards / \
David Heinemeier Hansson
2005-Mar-26 14:29 UTC
Re: OT: Looking for a lightweight ruby framework
> So, once again: Does anyone have an idea of a lightweight Ruby > framework?How about picking a shared host that doesn''t suck? :) I recommend TextDrive. You get shell access. Prices starting at $12/month. -- David Heinemeier Hansson, http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain
I recently bought into TextDrive''s lifetime hosting offer and they do have a ton of great features and I''m quite happy. However, their documentation is very thin and the support is good only if you know just what to ask for. Not for the inexperienced! I think they have great potential, but be wary! -dave On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:29:48 +0100, David Heinemeier Hansson <david-OiTZALl8rpK0mm7Ywyx6yg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > So, once again: Does anyone have an idea of a lightweight Ruby > > framework? > > How about picking a shared host that doesn''t suck? :) > > I recommend TextDrive. You get shell access. Prices starting at > $12/month. > -- > David Heinemeier Hansson, > http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby > http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Along the lines of a host that doesn''t suck, I recently moved to rimuhosting.com - they offer user mode linux virtual hosts. I had some pretty specific requirements like a) firm commitments about per-host provisioning, b) reasonable responses to out-of-hours support queries, c) good reputation and d) reasonably priced for the product. In the end rimuhosting were the only ones to actually meet all my criteria. I sound like an ad for them but I''m genuinely happy with my TawaVPS3. It''s not cheap at $40 per month but it''s streets ahead of my previous host (jumpline) which, although half the price was an utter dog by comparison (even for static pages). They have a couple of offerings at $20 a month - one with guaranteed non-swap memory or one with a bit more ram but on a host with overallocated memory (which may swap occasionally). My server (128MB guaranteed ram) runs apache and rails on fcgi + mysql like a champ with loads of memory to spare. I''m a fan. Trevor David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:>> So, once again: Does anyone have an idea of a lightweight Ruby >> framework? > > > How about picking a shared host that doesn''t suck? :) > > I recommend TextDrive. You get shell access. Prices starting at $12/month. > -- > David Heinemeier Hansson, > http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby > http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
> > So, once again: Does anyone have an idea of a lightweight Ruby > > framework? > > How about picking a shared host that doesn''t suck? :)The Problem is, that i cannot switch to another provider, because my client wants to stay with it. Also my client doesn''t want a dynamic webpage. That''s fatcs that i can''t change! And believe me, i tried. To have as little work as possible i would like to use a kind of simple framework to have i18n support, partial support and many more things, that help me not writing redundant XHTML code. That''s the background. I would prefere Rails, what i used for my last project http://www.bellybutton.de, but the provider has not all necessary ruby libraries installed. Hmpf. -- Norman Timmler Holländische Reihe 31 22765 Hamburg +49 (0)40 / 43 25 10 80 mailto:norman-QkIQCVqxERM@public.gmane.org _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X & vCards / \
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:58:27 +0200, Norman Timmler <norman-QkIQCVqxERM@public.gmane.org> wrote:> The Problem is, that i cannot switch to another provider, because my > client wants to stay with it. Also my client doesn''t want a dynamic > webpage. That''s fatcs that i can''t change!If your client wants a static site, why not give him one? Last time I had a "client" (ok, my aunt) who just wanted a static site, what I did was to make a bunch of small text files, using m4 macros for common things like when the page was last updated or page headers and footers. Then I wrote a simple makefile for running the m4 macros to create the final .html file. Then my webserver serves perfectly static HTML files with no dynamic processing whatsoever. When the client requests a page be changed, I edit a text file, run ''make'', and then upload only the .html files that have changed. Rails would have been massive overkill on such a small project (project has something like 8 pages, and they rarely change in content).> And believe me, i tried. > To have as little work as possible i would like to use a kind of simple > framework to have i18n support, partial support and many more things,m4 can do i18n, insofar as you''re able to use UTF8 text files. m4 can also do partials, but it calls them "macros" ;) http://www.gnu.org/software/m4/ If you''re running linux, it''s likely already installed. -- Urban Artography http://artography.ath.cx