I've noticed that on Samba 2.2.5, that the ACLs don't work quite as expected. Under win2000 you remove access by the group everyone by deleting it, under Samba, you have to set the group Everyone to deny all (which then gives you a warning, and then you can add separate users.) Is it possible to make Samba not return the group Everyone if the UNIX permissions for world are ---? I.e., if file bob has rwx------, only return the owner of the file as having any permissions, and not even return the others? Has the way ACLs present themselves changed between 2.2.5 and 2.2.8? Has this patch been added to 2.2.8? http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/samba/2003-March/091967.html Thank you, Tom Dickson