Hello, is anyone successfully sharing a ext3 partition between windows and linux? Which software do you use under (which) windows? Was it easy to setup? TIA and Regards, Helge
Hello, In which way are you suggesting that it be shared? Are you suggesting that you would be having this EXT3FS partition on one hard drive inside of one computer and have it be a centrally shared directory between two operating systems on a Dual-boot system? If that is the case, I believe quite completely that it is impossible, as Windows is only capable of reading/writing to the following types of formats; FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and I believe it had at one time Access to HPFS for OS/2 Compatibility, but that has since been removed. Anyway, if you want to share between dual-booting Windows and Linux, the "Share" partition needs to be running some form of FAT, either 16 or 32 will do nicely. Except that you will lose permissions and other special controls. If you are talking about two separate computer systems, you are in luck. You would need to get a hold of a Samba package and setup Samba to act as either a Workgroup sharing computer or as a Windows Primary Domain Controller. (The latter of which is quite fun, in a good way, I might add.) Good luck on your situation, Robert Adkins IT Manager/Buyer Impel Industries, Inc.> > Hello, > > is anyone successfully sharing a ext3 partition between windows andlinux?> Which software do you use under (which) windows? Was it easy to setup? > > TIA and Regards, > Helge > > > _______________________________________________ > Ext3-users mailing list > Ext3-users@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:12, Helge Hielscher wrote:> Hello, > > is anyone successfully sharing a ext3 partition between windows and linux? > Which software do you use under (which) windows? Was it easy to setup? > > TIA and Regards, > Helgei tried e2explorer once, got file corruption. fount out the easiest was to remove windows alltogether -- Ronny Aasen <list@datapart-as.no>
I'm currently using an ext3 partition shared via SAMBA (http://www.samba.org/) to a w2k instance of vmware on the same Linux machine and it works like a charm... My system Linux is based on slackware 9.0. You can manage Samba configuration via web interface, if you enable it on port 901 (inetd.con file) and then point to http://localhost:901 for example. I've used successfully explore2fs (http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm) on both Win NT and 2k, to read ext2/3 partitions under windows on the same pc in a dual boot configuration. I've used it only to read Linux data and copy them to windows f.s.. HIH. Bye, Gianluca -----Original Message----- From: Robert Adkins [mailto:radkins@impelind.com] Sent: lunedì 18 agosto 2003 15.36 To: 'Helge Hielscher'; Ext3-users@redhat.com Subject: RE: sharing an ext3-partition with windows? Hello, In which way are you suggesting that it be shared? Are you suggesting that you would be having this EXT3FS partition on one hard drive inside of one computer and have it be a centrally shared directory between two operating systems on a Dual-boot system? If that is the case, I believe quite completely that it is impossible, as Windows is only capable of reading/writing to the following types of formats; FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and I believe it had at one time Access to HPFS for OS/2 Compatibility, but that has since been removed. Anyway, if you want to share between dual-booting Windows and Linux, the "Share" partition needs to be running some form of FAT, either 16 or 32 will do nicely. Except that you will lose permissions and other special controls. If you are talking about two separate computer systems, you are in luck. You would need to get a hold of a Samba package and setup Samba to act as either a Workgroup sharing computer or as a Windows Primary Domain Controller. (The latter of which is quite fun, in a good way, I might add.) Good luck on your situation, Robert Adkins IT Manager/Buyer Impel Industries, Inc.> > Hello, > > is anyone successfully sharing a ext3 partition between windows andlinux?> Which software do you use under (which) windows? Was it easy to setup? > > TIA and Regards, > Helge > > > _______________________________________________ > Ext3-users mailing list > Ext3-users@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users_______________________________________________ Ext3-users mailing list Ext3-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 07:12:44PM +0200, Helge Hielscher wrote:> > is anyone successfully sharing a ext3 partition between windows and linux? > Which software do you use under (which) windows? Was it easy to setup? >There are some folks who have ported the libext2fs library and linked it together with the Microsoft Filesystem SDK to produce a ext2 driver for various versions of Win32. (I remember on for Windows 98 and one for Windows 2000). They generally don't tend to be kept up to date very well, since they require access to propietary software to development. Technically that makes them a violation of the GPL, but I generally don't bother with following up after the GPL violation, figuring that being forced to use Windows is generally punishment enough. If someone were to actually ask me, I'd probably give permission to use libext2fs with a Windows filesystem SDK, as long as the resulting driver was given away free of charge. Of course, I can only speak for that portion of libext2fs which is mine (probably around 95-97%). - Ted
Another project is: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd Which provide a IFS driver for windows and it is GPL. But it does not use the libext2fs though. The write support is very unstable yet. The read support seems OK. The e2fsproges package has been port to windows as well. Currently it only compile on cygwin. But you can do fsck and mke2fs etc. I use debugfs as a poor man's ext2/3 file system driver for now.> -----Original Message----- > From: Theodore Ts'o [mailto:tytso@mit.edu] > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:17 AM > To: Helge Hielscher > Cc: Ext3-users@redhat.com > Subject: Re: sharing an ext3-partition with windows? > > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 07:12:44PM +0200, Helge Hielscher wrote: > figuring that being forced to use Windows is generally punishment > enough.I have been taking this punishment since last years. With the help of cygwin and gvim/xemacs etc, using windows is not too bad. Talking about developing on windows, it is kind of pain if the thing you want is not cover in the MSDN document. I once tempted to write a windows driver for ext3 file system. The first step is port the e2fsprogs over windows, which is usable now. I haven't get enough time and motivation to move on the next step.> > If someone were to actually ask me, I'd probably give permission to > use libext2fs with a Windows filesystem SDK, as long as the resulting > driver was given away free of charge. Of course, I can only speak forI think you mean the IFS Kit. I thougt about that as well. But the biggest challenge for me is the IFS Kit itself. IFS kit is really poor documented. I found it interesting that all the windows driver put the input arguments in the IRPs. It is should have more overhead than simple function call. But it seems easier to handle asynchronous IO. Chris
If you have enough power and memory resources on your PC (and enough time to experiment...) you can manage the situation in this way: 1) you have a dual boot system setup with native windows and native linux installed 2) you install vmware on both o.s. 3) on each o.s. you can boot the other o.s. installed on hd, using vmware with the native partition option setup 4) you set up your linux system to share the ext3 fs (or dir) via samba 5) depending on your needs you start linux or windows in native mode and the other o.s in vmware on the same pc and you should be done NOTE: it could be very tricky, but in the past I managed to have both Linux and windows able to boot on a native partition in vmware. And also you have to buy 2 licences for vmware... For windows you have to create hw profiles and disable startup of particular applications for your native devices (such as mouse, keyboard, video adapter settings tools, network card monitoring tools) and other things, and I don't know the kind of support from vmware for this. For Linux you have to manage your X configuration when in native mode and when inside vmware environment. I used this successfully but with much pain with vmware 2.x, so I don't know the status of the art now that version 4 is out. To have an overview about the process you can check these links. http://www.vmware.com/support/ws2/doc/rawdevices_ws_linux.html http://www.vmware.com/support/ws2/doc/acpihal_w2k_ws_linux.html Bye, Gianluca -----Original Message----- From: Helge Hielscher [mailto:hhielscher@unternehmen.com] Sent: lunedì 18 agosto 2003 19.10 To: Ext3-users@redhat.com Subject: RE: sharing an ext3-partition with windows? Am Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:35:50 -0400 schrieb Robert Adkins:> > In which way are you suggesting that it be shared? Are you > suggesting that you would be having this EXT3FS partition on one hard > drive inside of one computer and have it be a centrally shared directory > between two operating systems on a Dual-boot system?Yes, this is what I need.> If that is the case, I believe quite completely that it is > impossible, as Windows is only capable of reading/writing to the following > types of formats; FAT16, FAT32, NTFS and I believe it had at one time > Access to HPFS for OS/2 Compatibility, but that has since been removed.But you can't (or shouldnt) write on a NTFS Partition from Linux.> Anyway, if you want to share between dual-booting Windows and > Linux, the "Share" partition needs to be running some form of FAT, either > 16 or 32 will do nicely. Except that you will lose permissions and other > special controls.Well thats a problem. FAT is old, wastes a lot of space and has no journaling. The NTFS driver FAQ lists four projects for reading ext2/3 for windows: Taken from http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/ntfs.html#3.2 # explore2fs - http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm * Home page: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm * For Windows NT, Windows 2000 and Windows XP. # ext2fsd - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/ * Home page: http://www.tuningsoft.com/projects/projects.htm * For Windows NT, Windows 2000 and Windows XP. # winext2fsd - http://sourceforge.net/projects/winext2fsd/ * Home page: winext2fsd project page * Reportedly works on Windows NT and Windows XP, likely also on Windows 2000. # ext2forxp - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2forxp/ * Home page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2forxp/ * In early stages, not ready for use yet (June 4th, 2003). The question is: does anybody use any of this? Regards, Helge _______________________________________________ Ext3-users mailing list Ext3-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 07:12:44PM +0200, Helge Hielscher wrote:> > is anyone successfully sharing a ext3 partition between windows and linux? > Which software do you use under (which) windows? Was it easy to setup?There are two comercial products from Paragon capable of mounting ext2/ext3 partitions in Windows for reading and writing: PARAGON Mount Everything http://www.mount-everything.com/ Paragon Ext2FS Anywhere http://www.ext2fs-anywhere.com/ These tools do the job you want. Romildo