listadmin,
Can you PLEASE, PLEASE find *any* other blacklist than manitu? This
asshole's method was ok a dozen years ago; these days, with hosting sites
hosting tens or hundreds of thousands of domains, with too many running
Windows, and so infected and sending out spam. They then send all mail via
one mailhost, with the result that those of us with *no* spam coming out
are frequently blocked.
This ain't the first time for me with this jerk, either. A few years
ago, Cogeco in Canada was using him, and on and off for *months* I was
blocked from exchanging email with an old friend... because I was
mailing from Roadrunner in Chicago (hosting hundreds of thousands of
households), until my friend dropped Cogeco.
mark, who is wondering if this will be blocked
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 17:10 -0400, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> listadmin, > > Can you PLEASE, PLEASE find *any* other blacklist than manitu? This > asshole's method was ok a dozen years ago; these days, with hosting sites > hosting tens or hundreds of thousands of domains, with too many running > Windows, and so infected and sending out spam. They then send all mail via > one mailhost, with the result that those of us with *no* spam coming out > are frequently blocked. > > This ain't the first time for me with this jerk, either. A few years > ago, Cogeco in Canada was using him, and on and off for *months* I was > blocked from exchanging email with an old friend... because I was > mailing from Roadrunner in Chicago (hosting hundreds of thousands of > households), until my friend dropped Cogeco. > > mark, who is wondering if this will be blockedNo I got it in England, Europe. Why not run your own mail server ? I use Exim (a Sendmail replacement) on several servers. I refuse incoming mails where the sender's HELO / EHLO does not match the sender's IP host name, because that - for me - eliminates 90% or more of spam and I absolutely detest spam. Discardable sub-domain names for mailing list subscriptions also helps. (currently on my third change for this list ... u61) Having spare domains, control over the DNS and assigning unique email addresses for different purposes means you can simply bloke a compromised email address whilst continuing to receive emails from everyone else. I've been doing this for about 10 years with great success. Spam is a USA invention created by someone called Wallace? about 15? years ago. It is now a world-wide pest. No Centos fan should have to depend on other's email services for daily communications, so do consider operating your own mail server. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU.
we block with manitu = nixspam as our primary RBL (followed by Spamhaus). Results are excellent. Their blocking is very reasonable. It's also possible to ask for inclusion in the whitelist. Obviously your great ISP Roadrunner isn't interested in inclusion or is sending out so many spam that they won't include it. Ask Roadrunner. Actually, Roadrunner has been known for years for big spam amounts originating from their network. I set it independently on our ACL for all mail servers years ago (not their whole IP range but all hosts matching their internet access assignment scheme). So, what you ask for is supporting one of the biggest spam output machinaries (besides Chinese ISPs) on the net. Thanks, no.> Because I'm not going to pay for colocation, or whatever.Well, you are sending via monsterhost.com/bluehost.com which doesn't seem to belong to Roadrunner. So, what's your problem? Kai
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 05:31:21 PM Kai Schaetzl wrote:> *You* confused things. You mixed ISPs and hosting. You can't.An Internet Service Provider is an Internet Service Provider regardless of the type, bandwidth, or technology of the pipe provided, regardless of the number of IP addresses, and regardless of whether the hosts on their networks are primarily eyeballs (typical consumer at the end of a DSL, cable, or other dynamically assigned single IP address (in IPv4) connection) or content providers. A hosting provider will have its own ISP; our ISP's here do both hosting and eyeballs. Yeah, a single ISP can have co-lo cages, large transit and peering customers with multiple /24's each, as well as a consumer-grade dynamically-provisioned single-IP-per-customer eyeball net. No ISP is entirely an eyeball network (in NANOG list terminology). But this thread is getting entirely out of hand.