Might be worth asking the owner of voip-info.org if the mailing list
link can go on the left sidebar permanently?
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From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Wiley
Siler
Sent: 28 June 2005 16:26
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] list Searchability
Great points Steve. I think the best we can do is all throw the newbies
a bone ounce in a while. Redirection to the content that is relevant is
enough to get most people on the path. Like you said, the hardest part
is not seeing the trees for the forest.
This is the whole "teach a man to fish" parable.
It is pretty easy to tell someone
A) How to search and where to look
B) The basics of what Asterisk can do
C) How to be a good list citizen
With those tools, almost anyone can get their start here and beat the
learning curve. Like it has been pointed out, there is not much else
we can do with so much information in a free flowing format.
Cheers,
Wiley
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From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of steve
szmidt
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:00 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip is Bankrupt
On Monday 27 June 2005 20:04, Robert Webb wrote:> > I agree with that fact the same questions get posted, but
> > that problem is compounded by the fact the archives are not
> > really searchable. If the were as lease some users would search.
> > The archives need to be fully indexed.
>
> In a Google search box: site:lists.digium.com "What you are searching
> for"
The problem many newbies faces is TOO MUCH information. Not being able
to see
the trees because of the forest basically.
It does not matter either if it has been discussed until someone went
crazy or
died. The reason it keeps coming up is because it has not been solved.
I totally agree with why. I sure don't want to be the one babysitting
them.
These posts were simply pointing out what I think, as a former educator,
is
part of the problem. Something which is not that hard to do. And indeed
during some spare times I may put together something which is a lower
gradient for those who have a hard time getting it. I sure would like
to.
Now it could very well be that many of these people never get anywhere
because
it's just too hard for them. But I know when I started a few years back,
that
a lot of the howto's have a stiff gradient. It skips pieces of
information,
assumes knowledge which is hard to come by and so on. Standard stuff.
I'm not assuming or expecting that anyone is going to act on what I'm
saying.
If it was easy someone would have already implemented it.
But I am saying that I see there are things that CAN be done which will
make
it easier. And if it makes it easier, this list will have less
"stupid"
and
repetitive questions. More people will win using Asterisk and we should
all
win. (Except those who prefer fewer people competed in this arena. And
there
are a few here who are happy it's hard for others to take part of the
fruit.
There always are.)
--
Steve Szmidt
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
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