I am setting up a new asterisk based call center. I just read: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-IAX+versus+SIP After reading this and other google results for "IAX vs SIP" is there any reason why i should use SIP anywhere !! t
Sys Admin wrote:> After reading this and other google results for "IAX vs SIP" is there > any reason why i should use SIP anywhere !!Well, let's see.. 99.99% of the available VOIP hardware only support SIP, MGCP and H.323, but not IAX2. Is that a good reason? IAX2 calls between servers carry the signaling and media in the same connection, which is good for NAT issues, but bad for CDR and traffic control issues. SIP handles them separately, so you can keep complete CDR without forcing the media to follow the same path. Is that a good reason?
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:01:04 -0800, Sys Admin <topgun9@gmail.com> wrote:> I am setting up a new asterisk based call center. I just read: > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-IAX+versus+SIP > > After reading this and other google results for "IAX vs SIP" is there > any reason why i should use SIP anywhere !! > > tDo you have your voip hardphones picked out yet?
Sys Admin wrote:> I am setting up a new asterisk based call center. I just read: > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-IAX+versus+SIP > > After reading this and other google results for "IAX vs SIP" is there > any reason why i should use SIP anywhere !!Because most equipment doesn't support IAX -- Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. Mark Twain
well that was my another question I was thinking of starting one more thread for that: "Hard phone vs soft phone" Forget older years but in 2005 do hard phones really add any value over softphones. The call center agents already have p4 2.4ghz with 512 MB ram Win2K why not just get them a nice USB headset with a softphone IAX client, t On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:07:57 -0500, Dana Olson <rickaster@gmail.com> wrote:> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:01:04 -0800, Sys Admin <topgun9@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am setting up a new asterisk based call center. I just read: > > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-IAX+versus+SIP > > > > After reading this and other google results for "IAX vs SIP" is there > > any reason why i should use SIP anywhere !! > > > > t > > Do you have your voip hardphones picked out yet? >
> Did you consider vonage?I played with Packet8 as a reality check before investing the time & money into the Asterisk solution. I certainly wouldn't use Packet8 or Vonage or any other service instead of an Asterisk solution. It's easy to get termination delivered by IAX now and is both cheaper and more flexible.> I wonder if I am making a rod for my own back > trying to set up voip for such a small configuration.I've got about 10 users and the VoIP is wonderful. It's _MUCH_ cheaper than the old system I replaced and has lots of flexibility going forward. I'm actually very happy about the switch to Asterisk and VoIP. I just wish I could have found a good softphone to use.
How about sipXphone? They say STUN will be added within a week or two. -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Roman Zhovtulya Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:03 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] why even use SIP Did you check SJPhone?> -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of > Scott Bussinger > Sent: Montag, 21. M?rz 2005 22:22 > To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] why even use SIP > > > > Did you consider vonage? > > I played with Packet8 as a reality check before investing the > time & money into the Asterisk solution. I certainly wouldn't > use Packet8 or Vonage or any other service instead of an > Asterisk solution. It's easy to get termination delivered by > IAX now and is both cheaper and more flexible. > > > I wonder if I am making a rod for my own back > > trying to set up voip for such a small configuration. > > I've got about 10 users and the VoIP is wonderful. It's > _MUCH_ cheaper than the old system I replaced and has lots of > flexibility going forward. I'm actually very happy about the > switch to Asterisk and VoIP. I just wish I could have found a > good softphone to use. > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/aster> isk-users > To > UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
A few ideas to help the Iaxy little device work better: at the very first startup (or with a switch), finding the LAN and a phone connected, it could call it and "say" it's IP (like 'one' 'nine' 'eight' 'dot' and so on). Maybe with a little improvment it could also be called from it's telephone and acquire a fixed IP address by DTMF codes... Alex> is some one from digium reading this thread. !!> Looks like they have a ready and a big market for this device. And all > they need to do is invest say 6 man months of development effort :)> come on digium do it !!> How about making the firmware open source so we can hack on it ...> t> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:37:02 -0500, Dana Olson <rickaster@gmail.com> wrote:> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:13:12 -0500, Time Bandit <timebandit001@gmail.com> wrote:>>> > > So how am I going to provision the device in the first place, to be >>> > > able to dial this extension, if I don't even know the IP? >> >> >> > Oups, sorry, didn't think about this one. >> > >> > Check winiaxyprov, the version 1.01 can scan your network to find >> > IAXy. Now the only thing we need is for Digium to write the MAC >> > address on the device before sending it in the open world. Because if >> > you have more than one on your network, you can't really know which >> > one you need to provision. >> > >> > hth > > > > Yeah, I found that app earlier in the thread and thanked whoever it > was (maybe you, can't remember) for linking to it. It's handy, as I > had no way to determine the MAC or IP address prior to this, my IAXys > kinda sat on the shelf collecting dust. (I did bring one home and > plugged it into my Linksys router, but that's hardly an option in a > large IT organization with many IAXys.) > > My company has thousands of entries in the DHCP server, and it would > take forever to go through each and every one of them. Not to mention > that I, being in the telecom division, do not have access to the DHCP > servers. > > Luckily I actually have a Windows desktop here at work. I'd like a > scanner like that for Linux though. Maybe it's possible with some > other kind of application? > > Anyhow, I still think it wouldn't kill them to add an IP address > feature or something (an alternative would be to allow the iaxyprov > tool to provision by MAC or IP, and yes, start labeling the devices > with their MACs). > > To me, it just doesn't seem like a product that was really ready for > release yet. I think it could be really great after a bit of > development though, and wouldn't discourage Digium from doing so, but > for now, our company can't really use these for many applications. > -- > Dana > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> > > > > > > > How about scanning for it's mac address? > http://ipscan.sf.net/ipscan.exe > > > > -- > > http://www.umich2.com > > > Digium doesn't label the MAC address on the device, unless it's such a > fine print that no one can read it. I believe this has been said a few > times in the conversation.Connect it with a cross-over ethernet cable to a Linux box and run tcpdump on the Linux box, before long you'll see the IP address come up on the tcpdump logs. Don't power it off, you want it to have an existing DHCP lease. If you don't see any traffic, try making a call. Once you have the IP you can put it back on the normal network and configure it.
well i even pressed ctrl+alt+del went into the process monitor and gave the firefly process high priority. Still it looses half a second of sound each time i maximize or minimize a app like putty, whats the word for this ..... sucks ..... why doesnt skype have this problem ? t On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:39:54 -0800 (PST), Robert Hajime Lanning <lanning+asterisk@monsoonwind.com> wrote:> Because the video driver is a kernel thread and not allowed to lag. > That would cause framerate issues with games. :) > > oh winderz... > > <quote who="Sys Admin"> > > On a dell insipiron 600m laptop with 512 MB RAM each time i maximize > > or minimize even a small application like putty the firefly softphone > > looses sound for 1/2 a second. Why is the softphone application so > > bad that it can not even handle another application being maximized > > and minimized. This really throws me off !! > > -- > END OF LINE > -MCP > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >