I am using centOS for my server and centOS is extremely stable. I almost love centOS more than my wife. However, centOS is a bit heavy to run on my notebook (P III 1G, 256MB RAM). I need gnome, firefox, openoffice, realplayer, gaim, acrobat and thunderbird on my notebook, but if I install all of them (plus base-system), my notebook becomes very slow. I wish I could have a lighter version of centOS for notebooks and old desktops. Is there any project that I could have a mini-centOS in the future??? Joe __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
kenkensmile at netscape.net wrote:>I am using centOS for my server and centOS is extremely stable. I almost love centOS more than my wife. However, centOS is a bit heavy to run on my notebook (P III 1G, 256MB RAM). I need gnome, firefox, openoffice, realplayer, gaim, acrobat and thunderbird on my notebook, but if I install all of them (plus base-system), my notebook becomes very slow. I wish I could have a lighter version of centOS for notebooks and old desktops. Is there any project that I could have a mini-centOS in the future??? > > >The slowness isn't really CentOS's fault. That's not really enough memory for an X+gnome environment if you're going to be running piggy applications like openoffice. Also, I suspect an older P3 notebook probably has rather slow video hardware which may make things seem worse than they really are. The best thing you can do to speed things up is to bump your memory up to 512mb. I suspect that will make a big difference in perceived speed. Cheers, C
On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 06:55 -0400, kenkensmile at netscape.net wrote:> I am using centOS for my server and centOS is extremely stable. I > almost love centOS more than my wife. However, centOS is a bit heavy > to run on my notebook (P III 1G, 256MB RAM). I need gnome, firefox, > openoffice, realplayer, gaim, acrobat and thunderbird on my notebook, > but if I install all of them (plus base-system), my notebook becomes > very slow. I wish I could have a lighter version of centOS for > notebooks and old desktops. Is there any project that I could have a > mini-centOS in the future??? > > JoeIt won't get much faster if you choose those products :) There is XFCE-4.2 that you could install instead of GNOME or KDE do: yum groupinstall XFCE-4.2 and pick XFCE as the session you log in to at the main screen by selecting session ... it should be faster If you want to change permanently ... do: switchdesk XFCE You can get a minimum install by doing a minimal install from anaconda ... then doing: yum groupinstall XFCE-4.2 "X Window System" "Office/Productivity" then install the individual things you want via yum... I'll do that on a test box and tell you how much space it is :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20050513/2405f069/attachment-0004.sig>
Perhaps we should call it "bloatos" ;-) Johnny Hughes wrote:>On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 06:55 -0400, kenkensmile at netscape.net wrote: > > >>I am using centOS for my server and centOS is extremely stable. I >>almost love centOS more than my wife. However, centOS is a bit heavy >>to run on my notebook (P III 1G, 256MB RAM). I need gnome, firefox, >>openoffice, realplayer, gaim, acrobat and thunderbird on my notebook, >>but if I install all of them (plus base-system), my notebook becomes >>very slow. I wish I could have a lighter version of centOS for >>notebooks and old desktops. Is there any project that I could have a >>mini-centOS in the future??? >> >>Joe >> >> > >It won't get much faster if you choose those products :) > >There is XFCE-4.2 that you could install instead of GNOME or KDE > >do: > >yum groupinstall XFCE-4.2 > >and pick XFCE as the session you log in to at the main screen by >selecting session ... it should be faster > >If you want to change permanently ... do: > >switchdesk XFCE > >You can get a minimum install by doing a minimal install from >anaconda ... then doing: > >yum groupinstall XFCE-4.2 "X Window System" "Office/Productivity" > >then install the individual things you want via yum... > >I'll do that on a test box and tell you how much space it is :) > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >CentOS mailing list >CentOS at centos.org >http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > >
Chris Mauritz <chrism at imntv.com> wrote:>kenkensmile at netscape.net wrote: > >>I am using centOS for my server and centOS is extremely stable. I almost love centOS more than my wife. However, centOS is a bit heavy to run on my notebook (P III 1G, 256MB RAM). I need gnome, firefox, openoffice, realplayer, gaim, acrobat and thunderbird on my notebook, but if I install all of them (plus base-system), my notebook becomes very slow. I wish I could have a lighter version of centOS for notebooks and old desktops. Is there any project that I could have a mini-centOS in the future??? >> >> >> > > >The slowness isn't really CentOS's fault. That's not really enough >memory for an X+gnome environment if you're going to be running piggy >applications like openoffice. Also, I suspect an older P3 notebook >probably has rather slow video hardware which may make things seem worse >than they really are. The best thing you can do to speed things up is >to bump your memory up to 512mb. I suspect that will make a big >difference in perceived speed. > >Cheers, > >C >Thanks for the reply. Yes, you are exactly right. My notebook has a slow video hardware(8MB). Unfortunately, I cannot upgrade memory up to 512MB, because 256MB is the maximum capacity. I have also found an article that MS is making a new OS for old computers, so I just simply thought I would like to have a mini-centOS. http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5705456.html Cheers, Joe __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
kenkensmile at netscape.net wrote:> I am using centOS for my server and centOS is extremely stable. I almost love centOS more than my wife. However, centOS is a bit heavy to run on my notebook (P III 1G, 256MB RAM). I need gnome, firefox, openoffice, realplayer, gaim, acrobat and thunderbird on my notebook, but if I install all of them (plus base-system), my notebook becomes very slow. I wish I could have a lighter version of centOS for notebooks and old desktops. Is there any project that I could have a mini-centOS in the future??? >Disable all services you dont need, stop the VC's ( you might want to retain at least 1 ), move to a lighter Gnome theme ( clearlooks is my current fav.!) You will find CentOS 4 on a P-III 1 Ghz cpu is quite usable. In most cases, the HDD transfer rate is going to be slowing you down more than anything else. ( Maybe read ahead tweaking might help here, marginally ) While 256MB is 'enough' for most things, its apps like OpenOffice that are going to struggle a bit. - K -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc
> notebook (P III 1G, 256MB RAM). I need gnome, firefox, openoffice,My notebook is more old of you. I have a Celeron 500MHz whit 128Mb RAM and 4.7 Gb HDD, i run CentOS 4 (XFcee+OOorg2.0 beta+Firefox+Mplayer+XMMS+Gaim+much more). For this configuration is very easy download the software of internet. I install only the base system on my laptop, and less to less i will be a compiler a diferent software. XFce is not necesary to compiler, because in the any repository of CentOS it?s this software in the extra direcotry. OOorg 2.0 exist the rpm binary on the Openoffice.org web site, and Mplayer is very easy to install. Some software need the depend, but i catch in this repositoryhttp://dag.wieers.com/packages/> there any project that I could have a mini-centOS in the future???Well i dont know about this, but i belive is not necesary a Mini-CentOS because i get obtain that configuration whitout Mini-CentOS.. Regards, David ----------------------------------------------- ASLiC 100 % CUBANA- Software Libre es LIBERTAD. _______________________________________________ Tec. David Gonzalez Romero - Miembro Coordinador del Proyecto de Asociaci?n de Software Libre Cubana - Activista del Grupo de Usuarios Linux-Habana http://lihab.snap.cu/ Linux counter: 242534 _______________________________________________
From: David Gonz???lez Romero <dgr at snap.cu>> For this configuration is very easy download the software of internet. I > install only the base system on my laptop, and less to less i will be a > compiler a diferent software. XFce is not necesary to compiler, because in > the any repository of CentOS it???s this software in the extra direcotry.Isn't XFCE included as standard as of RHEL/CentOS 4? Or did I miss something?> Well i dont know about this, but i belive is not necesary a Mini-CentOS > because i get obtain that configuration whitout Mini-CentOS..I think merely documenting a way of how to add standard package lists would suffice. I remember there was a long, drawn-out set of threads on the Fedora-devel lists about such -- and it really came down to the simple matter that it's not too difficult to add new package lists. -- Bryan J. Smith mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org
From: Doug Koobs <dkoobs at dkoobs.com>> If it helps any, I'm running CentOS4 on an old PII 400Mhz, 192MB laptop. Under > Gnome, it's not exactly snappy, but it is usable. Unser XFCE4.2, i'm quite ahppy > with it. I know you stated that you need Gnome, and I also prefer it. But if you > haven't tried some of the lightweight alternatives, give them a shot, you may be > surprised.The nice thing about XFCE is that it is a _total_ session+file+window solution, like KDE and GNOME. And if you don't like XFCE's session+file managers, you can always use Rox-Filer (which works flawlessly with XFCE's xfwm window manager).> Intereating article about the new lightweight Windows OS.There's _no_ such thing on the retail shelf or in volume Windows license. Unless you link from the _Embedded_ NT/2000/XP releases, you can't "unlink" all sorts of crap that "leeches" on the NTkernel, GDI, etc... These so-called "lightweight" Windows OS releases are nothing more than some things not bundled. It's a 100% marketing gimmick. Unfortunately, "Chicago"-designed MS IE is required by all apps since the mid-'90s, which is the crux of the resource and, more relevantly, security in the current bastardization of Win32 we call NT5.1 (XP/2003). So it's hard to get rid of if you run anything that was developed with Visual Studio. It's really sad. Some Windows architects are really sharp guys, but the "applications" developers still develop like NT is DOS7 "Chicago" -- assuming the world is safe and users have full access over the system. No wonder Marc left for Google!> However, I don't think it will meet your needs, as it will be extremely crippled, > to the point it won't even run MS Office if I read correctly.Depends on what is left out. -- Bryan J. Smith mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org