Anyone have a good source for BT-101 phones? I had a lead on some, but they've not materialized. I'm also interested in the ATA-286 (HandyTone) units as well. This is for my personal Asterisk/INOC-DBA setup, that has yet to materialize heh. --- Tom Sparks
Yes, you can now purchase GS phones from us http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 01:11:54PM -0700, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:> Anyone have a good source for BT-101 phones? > I had a lead on some, but they've not materialized. > > I'm also interested in the ATA-286 (HandyTone) units as well. > > This is for my personal Asterisk/INOC-DBA setup, that has yet to > materialize heh. > > --- > Tom Sparks > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 22:11, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:> Anyone have a good source for BT-101 phones?Yes. But it may not work for you because I've no idea on which of the 5 continents you are. -- Dave Cotton <dcotton@linuxautrement.com>
You get a Budgetone for free at Nikotel if you charge your account there with 100 bucks. The nikotel service works with *, even behind nat Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:>Anyone have a good source for BT-101 phones? >I had a lead on some, but they've not materialized. > >I'm also interested in the ATA-286 (HandyTone) units as well. > >This is for my personal Asterisk/INOC-DBA setup, that has yet to >materialize heh. > >--- >Tom Sparks > >_______________________________________________ >Asterisk-Users mailing list >Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > >
I agree. I was in exactly the same spot as you just over a year ago. I jumped into Asterisk without any idea of what any of the terms you mention mean. I vowed to setup a FAQ for users in my position, but now that I'm knee deep in it, it's hard to put myself back into that mindset and decide what's necessary and what isn't. As you're currently in that position, I'd be more than happy to answer a set of questions, and post them as a newbie-FAQ. -wade> I have to defend us newbies on this. > > This environment does not facilitate sequential knowledge building!Based> on my entry to Asterisk, I should have already known > T1/E1/VOIP/SIP/FreeWorld/H.232/X100P/PBX/FXO/FXS/channel bank etc youget> the idea (still trying to figure out "skinny"...cisco something, Iknow).> Heck, I'm struggling to get a grip on what and how to use/confiure SIPfor> linux and keep my hair. > > You don't start off with a prerequisite of knowledge to join like a > class/school. You don't have the you-must-have-asterisk-101-beforegoing> to asterisk-102 before you can join this list. You have a forum thatis> GENERAL. > > I would like to a better effort to provide a more sensible way tostart> helping us newbies. I have to say that the Digium handbook helped a > little, but not much. I have googled till I couldn't see straight. Ijust> don't yet have the "big picture" that most of you do. I couldn't eventell> you if I need a channel bank or a channel changer ;) at this point. > > A group of you seem to expect people to have a knowledge base thatallows> for entering keywords to google. I don't know those keywords. You knowthe> context to search for when someone says I'm having a problem withinsert-> thing-here. > > Instead of the usual, "Search the archives". It would be more helpfullto> give a hint on what to search for. I could search for SIP and get back > several hundred "answers". Then I have to figure out where that answer > lies in the series of possible answers. Then I have to somehow figureout> if it works. > > As most of you teachers (past and present) should know, not all of us > learn the same. Some people just "get" written material. Some NEED the > "spoon" to make it to the next level. Some need the hands-onexperience> and other's just can't learn any more than they have alreadyknow(those> people are not likely on this list, however). > > You do realize that the http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support > lists the mailing list first for support, don't you. In fact, you haveto> go to the second page before you even see the google reference. More afew> people tend to look for the FIRST way to get help not ALL ways to get > help... > > <flame suit on> > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Dave Cotton wrote: > ... > > Absolutely agree with you Steve. I left teachers training collegein> > 1970. I shock some teachers when I said that in all the years sinceI> > haven't taught anyone anything. I've just enabled them to learn. > > The problem is that in most national education systems the teacheris> > expected to provide the answers to pass some test at the end of the > > course. Thinking is not part of the curriculum. > > -- > > Dave Cotton <dcotton@linuxautrement.com> > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
I just want to thank you very much PJ Welsh for saying something I have wanted to say. And your right this is suppose to be the place to get help. I am new to Asterisk and I am learning the hard way. There have been some people here thinking that we are all programers or 100% Linux types. The list said user's. I am a user of the system I got this system installed and it's hard to configure it all! I am learning but there is no real help file! Some of us are using this system in the real world and would like help with it! It's not a toy. The only way that this system will grow is with good support! And at present it's very hard to get support or there is no support! I can see the future is going to be with something like Asterisk why not let it be Asterisk. Again thank you for your comments. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: PJ Welsh <pj@cassens.com> Reply-To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:17:17 -0500>I have to defend us newbies on this. > >This environment does not facilitate sequential knowledge building! Based on my entry to Asterisk, I should have already known T1/E1/VOIP/SIP/FreeWorld/H.232/X100P/PBX/FXO/FXS/channel bank etc you get the idea (still trying to figure out "skinny"...cisco something, I know). Heck, I'm struggling to get a grip on what and how to use/confiure SIP for linux and keep my hair. > >You don't start off with a prerequisite of knowledge to join like a class/school. You don't have the you-must-have-asterisk-101-before going to asterisk-102 before you can join this list. You have a forum that is GENERAL. > >I would like to a better effort to provide a more sensible way to start helping us newbies. I have to say that the Digium handbook helped a little, but not much. I have googled till I couldn't see straight. I just don't yet have the "big picture" that most of you do. I couldn't even tell you if I need a channel bank or a channel changer ;) at this point. > >A group of you seem to expect people to have a knowledge base that allows for entering keywords to google. I don't know those keywords. You know the context to search for when someone says I'm having a problem with insert-thing-here. > >Instead of the usual, "Search the archives". It would be more helpfull to give a hint on what to search for. I could search for SIP and get back several hundred "answers". Then I have to figure out where that answer lies in the series of possible answers. Then I have to somehow figure out if it works. > >As most of you teachers (past and present) should know, not all of us learn the same. Some people just "get" written material. Some NEED the "spoon" to make it to the next level. Some need the hands-on experience and other's just can't learn any more than they have already know(those people are not likely on this list, however). > >You do realize that the http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support lists the mailing list first for support, don't you. In fact, you have to go to the second page before you even see the google reference. More a few people tend to look for the FIRST way to get help not ALL ways to get help... > ><flame suit on> > > >On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Dave Cotton wrote: >... >> Absolutely agree with you Steve. I left teachers training college in >> 1970. I shock some teachers when I said that in all the years since I >> haven't taught anyone anything. I've just enabled them to learn. >> The problem is that in most national education systems the teacher is >> expected to provide the answers to pass some test at the end of the >> course. Thinking is not part of the curriculum. >> -- >> Dave Cotton <dcotton@linuxautrement.com> >_______________________________________________ >Asterisk-Users mailing list >Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Maybe you are not talking about the same place, but I thought that http://www.voip-info.org was the Wiki. Sean _______________________________________________ Sean Robertson NETXUSA p. 800-289-6389 f. 864-233-4344 "Ask me about Voice over IP." http://www.netxusa.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Adamson" <radamson@routers.com> To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream Source?> > > I realized the same and started a process to collect a lot of thatinformation and build a> > knowledge base on http://www.voip-forum.org/ > > The url does not seem to respond. Are you sure its up and working? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
On Thursday 18 September 2003 16:15, Rich Adamson wrote:> > I realized the same and started a process to collect a lot of that > > information and build a knowledge base on > > http://www.voip-forum.org/ > > The url does not seem to respond. Are you sure its up and working?That should be .com, not .org. -Tilghman
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 16:15, Rich Adamson wrote:> > I realized the same and started a process to collect a lot of that information and build a > > knowledge base on http://www.voip-forum.org/ > > The url does not seem to respond. Are you sure its up and working?hmm, looks like verisign is broken. try http://www.voip-info.org/ -- Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
John Brown
2003-Sep-18 20:44 UTC
More Great new comer links for VoIP Re: CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream Source?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 10:38:26PM -0500, PJ Welsh wrote:> On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 09:22:55PM -0600, John Brown wrote: > > HI folks, nice conversation, but it has *nothing* to do with > > the subject line. > > Sorry, I tried twice (forgot once and did a second time). Someone else also tried and now you. End result... I think this may be beaten to death... for now... only for now... it will return... > > > More good links to share for the newbies: > > #Getting Started With Asterisk > http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm > #gota love the name. usefull conf > http://www.asstricks.org/ > #more example confs and sounds > http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/ > #dudes bookmarks on VoIP, SIP, H.323, RTP > http://www.ict.tuwien.ac.at/darilion/bookmarks.html > #Asterisk Guide for INOC-DBA from archives > http://www.pch.net/resources/discussion/inoc-dba/archive/2003-July/000719.html > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users