zfs discuss - Oct 2007 - Mac OS X 10.5.0 Leopard ships with a readonly ZFS

# zfs list
ZFS Readonly implemntation is loaded!
To download the full ZFS read/write kext with all functionality enabled, 
please go to http://developer.apple.com
no datasets available

Unfortunately, I can''t find it on ADC yet and it seems that it was
removed by Apple:

"Another turn in the Apple-ZFS saga. Apple has made available a developer
preview of ZFS for Mac OS X with read/write capability. The preview is available
to all ADC members. From the readme file: "ZFS is a new filesystem from Sun
Microsystems which has been ported by Apple to Mac OS X. The initial (10.5.0)
release of Leopard will restrict ZFS to read-only, so no ZFS pools or
filesystems can be modified or created. This Developer Preview will enable full
read/write capability, which includes the creation/destruction of ZFS pools and
filesystems." Update: Will it ever end? The release has been pulled from
ADC by Apple."

I can''t wait to reformat all my external 2.5 drives with zfs.
 
 
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it would seem that the reason that it''s been pulled is that
it''s
installed by default in the release version (9A581) - just tested it
here, and willikers, it works!

On 10/26/07, Kugutsumen <kugutsumen at kugutsumen.com>
wrote:
> # zfs list
> ZFS Readonly implemntation is loaded!
> To download the full ZFS read/write kext with all functionality enabled,
> please go to http://developer.apple.com
> no datasets available
>
> Unfortunately, I can''t find it on ADC yet and it seems that it was
removed by Apple:
>
> "Another turn in the Apple-ZFS saga. Apple has made available a
developer preview of ZFS for Mac OS X with read/write capability. The preview is
available to all ADC members. From the readme file: "ZFS is a new
filesystem from Sun Microsystems which has been ported by Apple to Mac OS X. The
initial (10.5.0) release of Leopard will restrict ZFS to read-only, so no ZFS
pools or filesystems can be modified or created. This Developer Preview will
enable full read/write capability, which includes the creation/destruction of
ZFS pools and filesystems." Update: Will it ever end? The release has been
pulled from ADC by Apple."
>
> I can''t wait to reformat all my external 2.5 drives with zfs.
>
>
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err, apologies, i''d like to retract my last comment - i failed reading
comprehension. just read-only by default.

On 10/26/07, Peter Woodman <peter at shortbus.org>
wrote:
> it would seem that the reason that it''s been pulled is that
it''s
> installed by default in the release version (9A581) - just tested it
> here, and willikers, it works!
>
> On 10/26/07, Kugutsumen <kugutsumen at kugutsumen.com> wrote:
> > # zfs list
> > ZFS Readonly implemntation is loaded!
> > To download the full ZFS read/write kext with all functionality
enabled,
> > please go to http://developer.apple.com
> > no datasets available
> >
> > Unfortunately, I can''t find it on ADC yet and it seems that
it was removed by Apple:
> >
> > "Another turn in the Apple-ZFS saga. Apple has made available a
developer preview of ZFS for Mac OS X with read/write capability. The preview is
available to all ADC members. From the readme file: "ZFS is a new
filesystem from Sun Microsystems which has been ported by Apple to Mac OS X. The
initial (10.5.0) release of Leopard will restrict ZFS to read-only, so no ZFS
pools or filesystems can be modified or created. This Developer Preview will
enable full read/write capability, which includes the creation/destruction of
ZFS pools and filesystems." Update: Will it ever end? The release has been
pulled from ADC by Apple."
> >
> > I can''t wait to reformat all my external 2.5 drives with zfs.
> >
> >
> > This message posted from opensolaris.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > zfs-discuss mailing list
> > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
> > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
> >
>

Yeah im pumped about this new release today..  such harmony in my
storage to be had.  now if OSX only had a native iscsi target/initiator!


-Andy Lubel




-----Original Message-----
From: zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org
[mailto:zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Woodman
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:14 AM
To: Kugutsumen
Cc: zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X 10.5.0 Leopard ships with a readonly
ZFS

it would seem that the reason that it''s been pulled is that
it''s
installed by default in the release version (9A581) - just tested it
here, and willikers, it works!

On 10/26/07, Kugutsumen <kugutsumen at kugutsumen.com>
wrote:
> # zfs list
> ZFS Readonly implemntation is loaded!
> To download the full ZFS read/write kext with all functionality 
> enabled, please go to http://developer.apple.com no datasets available
>
> Unfortunately, I can''t find it on ADC yet and it seems that it was
removed by Apple:
>
> "Another turn in the Apple-ZFS saga. Apple has made available a
developer preview of ZFS for Mac OS X with read/write capability. The
preview is available to all ADC members. From the readme file: "ZFS is a
new filesystem from Sun Microsystems which has been ported by Apple to
Mac OS X. The initial (10.5.0) release of Leopard will restrict ZFS to
read-only, so no ZFS pools or filesystems can be modified or created.
This Developer Preview will enable full read/write capability, which
includes the creation/destruction of ZFS pools and filesystems." Update:
Will it ever end? The release has been pulled from ADC by
Apple."
>
> I can''t wait to reformat all my external 2.5 drives with zfs.
>
>
> This message posted from opensolaris.org 
> _______________________________________________
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> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
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My copy hasn''t arrived yet, but look in the file menu in Disk Utility.

http://thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a377a/source/25.html


Scott

On 10/26/07, Andy Lubel <andy.Lubel at gtsi.com>
wrote:
>
> Yeah im pumped about this new release today..  such harmony in my
> storage to be had.  now if OSX only had a native iscsi target/initiator!
>
>
> -Andy Lubel
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org
> [mailto:zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Woodman
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:14 AM
> To: Kugutsumen
> Cc: zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X 10.5.0 Leopard ships with a readonly
> ZFS
>
> it would seem that the reason that it''s been pulled is that
it''s
> installed by default in the release version (9A581) - just tested it
> here, and willikers, it works!
>
> On 10/26/07, Kugutsumen <kugutsumen at kugutsumen.com> wrote:
> > # zfs list
> > ZFS Readonly implemntation is loaded!
> > To download the full ZFS read/write kext with all functionality
> > enabled, please go to http://developer.apple.com no datasets available
> >
> > Unfortunately, I can''t find it on ADC yet and it seems that
it was
> removed by Apple:
> >
> > "Another turn in the Apple-ZFS saga. Apple has made available a
> developer preview of ZFS for Mac OS X with read/write capability. The
> preview is available to all ADC members. From the readme file: "ZFS is
a
> new filesystem from Sun Microsystems which has been ported by Apple to
> Mac OS X. The initial (10.5.0) release of Leopard will restrict ZFS to
> read-only, so no ZFS pools or filesystems can be modified or created.
> This Developer Preview will enable full read/write capability, which
> includes the creation/destruction of ZFS pools and filesystems."
Update:
> Will it ever end? The release has been pulled from ADC by Apple."
> >
> > I can''t wait to reformat all my external 2.5 drives with zfs.
> >
> >
> > This message posted from opensolaris.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > zfs-discuss mailing list
> > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
> > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
> >
> _______________________________________________
> zfs-discuss mailing list
> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
> _______________________________________________
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''Connect to iSCSI'' is also missing from the final build 9A58.

They might enable it later or maybe there is some undocumented  
preference settings to enable it.

strings * |grep -i iscsi
iSCSIConfigurationMenuItem
iSCSIController
configureiSCSI:

Also a lot the NIB files also have mention of iSCSI.

On 26/10/2007, at 11:31 PM, Scott Laird wrote:
> My copy hasn''t arrived yet, but look in the file menu in Disk
Utility.
>
> http://thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a377a/source/25.html
>
>
> Scott
>
> On 10/26/07, Andy Lubel <andy.Lubel at gtsi.com> wrote: Yeah im
pumped
> about this new release today..  such harmony in my
> storage to be had.  now if OSX only had a native iscsi target/ 
> initiator!
>
>
> -Andy Lubel
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org
> [mailto:zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter  
> Woodman
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:14 AM
> To: Kugutsumen
> Cc: zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X 10.5.0 Leopard ships with a  
> readonly
> ZFS
>
> it would seem that the reason that it''s been pulled is that
it''s
> installed by default in the release version (9A581) - just tested it
> here, and willikers, it works!
>
> On 10/26/07, Kugutsumen <kugutsumen at kugutsumen.com> wrote:
> > # zfs list
> > ZFS Readonly implemntation is loaded!
> > To download the full ZFS read/write kext with all functionality
> > enabled, please go to http://developer.apple.com no datasets  
> available
> >
> > Unfortunately, I can''t find it on ADC yet and it seems that
it was
> removed by Apple:
> >
> > "Another turn in the Apple-ZFS saga. Apple has made available a
> developer preview of ZFS for Mac OS X with read/write capability. The
> preview is available to all ADC members. From the readme file: "ZFS  
> is a
> new filesystem from Sun Microsystems which has been ported by Apple to
> Mac OS X. The initial (10.5.0) release of Leopard will restrict ZFS to
> read-only, so no ZFS pools or filesystems can be modified or created.
> This Developer Preview will enable full read/write capability, which
> includes the creation/destruction of ZFS pools and filesystems."  
> Update:
> Will it ever end? The release has been pulled from ADC by Apple."
> >
> > I can''t wait to reformat all my external 2.5 drives with zfs.
> >
> >
> > This message posted from opensolaris.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > zfs-discuss mailing list
> > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
> > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
> >
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>
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On Oct 26, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Kugutsumen wrote:
> # zfs list
> ZFS Readonly implemntation is loaded!
> To download the full ZFS read/write kext with all functionality  
> enabled,
> please go to http://developer.apple.com
> no datasets available
>
> Unfortunately, I can''t find it on ADC yet and it seems that it was
> removed by Apple:
I downloaded version 1.1 from ADC today so it''s not been pulled. 
I''ve
not tested it yet though.  Another related piece of news. It seems  
they''ve ported the Solaris automounter too.  When I did a df I noticed
an entry "map auto_home ... /home" and there is a file called /etc/ 
auto_home.  I added an entry for my home directory on my Solaris  
machine and hey presto, it mounts automatically on the Mac.  This is  
great.

Krister

It wasn''t there yesterday. 

They just put it back in the Mac OS X Section of the ADC Download section
(http://developer.apple.com  free registration)
 
 
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I''m also very interested in getting this going, it''s
frustrating having Apple ignore what a big selling point for Leopard this is!

Kugutsum, could you drop me a line so we can discuss?  joe (at) penski {dot} net
 
 
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On 10/30/07, Joe Richards <joe at penski.net>
wrote:
> I''m also very interested in getting this going, it''s
frustrating having Apple ignore what a big selling point for Leopard this is!
>
Check out the Mac blogosphere.  I think Apple''s waiting until
ZFS''s
got a few more things ironed out.  The big concerns seem to be massive
bulk I/O for video, maybe more reliability/testing on their part.

-- 
H. Lally Singh
Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science
Virginia Tech