zfs discuss - Apr 2007 - Re: Generic "filesystem code" list/community for opensolaris ?

> Hi,
> 
> 
> so far, discussing filesystem code via opensolaris
> means a certain 
> "specialization", in the sense that we do have:
> 
> zfs-discuss
> ufs-discuss
> fuse-discuss
> 
> Likewise, there are ZFS, NFS and UFS communities
> (though I can''t quite 
> figure out if we have nfs-discuss ?).
> 
> What''s not there is a generic "FS thingies not in
> either of these". I.e. a 
> forum with the purpose of talking filesystem code in
> general (how to port 
> a *BSD filesystem, for example), or to contribute and
> discuss community 
> filesystem patches or early-access code.
> 
> Internally, we''ve been having a fs-interest mailing
> list for such a 
> purpose for decades - why no generic "FS forum" on
> OpenSolaris.org ?
> 
> There''s more filesystems in the world than just ZFS,
> NFS and UFS. We do 
> have the legacy stuff, but there''s also SMB/CIFS,
> NTFS, Linux-things, etc. 
> etc. etc.; I think these alone will never be
> high-volume enough to warrant 
> communities or even discussion lists of their own,
> but combined there''s 
> surely enough to fill one mailing list ?
> 
> Why _not_ have a
> "generic-fs-discuss at opensolaris.org", and a fs
> community 
> that deals with anything that''s not [NUZ]FS ?
> 
> Thanks for some thoughts on this,
> FrankH.
> 
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Hi Frank,

I''m about to discuss/announce some changes that are coming within the
next few months into ONNV.  My understanding is that ufs-discuss is the right
place to talk about generic file system issues.

As I was scanning through old threads, I found this one.  Are there plans to
create a "file system code" list/community?  Is the ufs-discuss alias
still the right place at present to discuss VFS-level changes?

Thanks,

    Rich
 
 
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On 21 Apr 2007, at 04:42, Rich Brown wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> so far, discussing filesystem code via opensolaris
>> means a certain
>> "specialization", in the sense that we do have:
>>
>> zfs-discuss
>> ufs-discuss
>> fuse-discuss
>>
>> Likewise, there are ZFS, NFS and UFS communities
>> (though I can''t quite
>> figure out if we have nfs-discuss ?).
>>
>> What''s not there is a generic "FS thingies not in
>> either of these". I.e. a
>> forum with the purpose of talking filesystem code in
>> general (how to port
>> a *BSD filesystem, for example), or to contribute and
>> discuss community
>> filesystem patches or early-access code.
>>
>> Internally, we''ve been having a fs-interest mailing
>> list for such a
>> purpose for decades - why no generic "FS forum" on
>> OpenSolaris.org ?
>>
>> There''s more filesystems in the world than just ZFS,
>> NFS and UFS. We do
>> have the legacy stuff, but there''s also SMB/CIFS,
>> NTFS, Linux-things, etc.
>> etc. etc.; I think these alone will never be
>> high-volume enough to warrant
>> communities or even discussion lists of their own,
>> but combined there''s
>> surely enough to fill one mailing list ?
>>
>> Why _not_ have a
>> "generic-fs-discuss at opensolaris.org", and a fs
>> community
>> that deals with anything that''s not [NUZ]FS ?
>>
>> Thanks for some thoughts on this,
>> FrankH.
>>
>> =====================================================>>
=====================>> No good can come from selling your freedom, not
for
>> all gold of the world,
>> for the value of this heavenly gift exceeds that of
>> any fortune on earth.
>> =====================================================>>
=====================>> _______________________________________________
>> ufs-discuss mailing list
>> ufs-discuss at opensolaris.org
>>
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> I''m about to discuss/announce some changes that are coming within
> the next few months into ONNV.  My understanding is that ufs- 
> discuss is the right place to talk about generic file system issues.
>
> As I was scanning through old threads, I found this one.  Are there  
> plans to create a "file system code" list/community?  Is the ufs-
> discuss alias still the right place at present to discuss VFS-level  
> changes?
>
As one of the leaders of the FUSE project I''d really like to see a  
general file-system community.... one which encompasses all Solaris  
filesystems (including ZFS and UFS).

Cheers,

-Mark
> Thanks,
>
>     Rich
>
>
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As it turns out, that has been proposed along with some other
reorganization of communities/projects:

   http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2007-April/000289.html

Thanks,

	Rich



Mark Phalan wrote:
> 
> On 21 Apr 2007, at 04:42, Rich Brown wrote:
> 
...
>>
>> Hi Frank,
>>
>> I''m about to discuss/announce some changes that are coming
within the
>> next few months into ONNV.  My understanding is that ufs-discuss is 
>> the right place to talk about generic file system issues.
>>
>> As I was scanning through old threads, I found this one.  Are there 
>> plans to create a "file system code" list/community?  Is the 
>> ufs-discuss alias still the right place at present to discuss 
>> VFS-level changes?
>>
> 
> As one of the leaders of the FUSE project I''d really like to see a
> general file-system community.... one which encompasses all Solaris 
> filesystems (including ZFS and UFS).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Mark
>

On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 07:25 -0500, Rich Brown wrote:
> As it turns out, that has been proposed along with some other
> reorganization of communities/projects:
> 
>    http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2007-April/000289.html
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Rich
> 
Ah, ok. Nice to see this is going to happen.

-Mark