This has probably been asked before... but I guess it isn''t plain enough [for me]. When I go to the page and download v2.0 Live CD, which ISO do I use? I have 64bit hardware, but do not have an AMD setup. I''ve got Intel. My goal is to use this disk to install Xen on new hardware, then migrate P2V machines. Thank you! -- Tim _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Tim Bearden <tim.bearden@gmail.com> wrote:> This has probably been asked before... but I guess it isn''t plain > enough [for me]. When I go to the page and download v2.0 Live CD, > which ISO do I use? I have 64bit hardware, but do not have an AMD > setup. I''ve got Intel.For most purposes, as far as users are concerned amd64 = x86_64 = x64 (depending on which OS/distro you''re looking at). So wheter the actual CPU is intel or amd doesn''t really matter.> My goal is to use this disk to install Xen on > new hardware, then migrate P2V machines. Thank you!Hmm ... not sure if Xen Live CD is the right tool. And judging from your questions, I really recommend you use Centos 5.6 instead (which comes with older, but well-maintaned and rock-stable version of Xen), choose virtualization during installation. -- Fajar _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
If I install CentOS w/ the virtualization build, would it be a barebones OS? I don''t want a GUI slowing the system down and would like all the hardware to be utilized by the VMs instead. For instance, ESXi is command line only, very basic OS install. -- Tim On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Fajar A. Nugraha <list@fajar.net> wrote:> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Tim Bearden <tim.bearden@gmail.com> wrote: >> This has probably been asked before... but I guess it isn''t plain >> enough [for me]. When I go to the page and download v2.0 Live CD, >> which ISO do I use? I have 64bit hardware, but do not have an AMD >> setup. I''ve got Intel. > > For most purposes, as far as users are concerned amd64 = x86_64 = x64 > (depending on which OS/distro you''re looking at). So wheter the actual > CPU is intel or amd doesn''t really matter. > >> My goal is to use this disk to install Xen on >> new hardware, then migrate P2V machines. Thank you! > > Hmm ... not sure if Xen Live CD is the right tool. And judging from > your questions, I really recommend you use Centos 5.6 instead (which > comes with older, but well-maintaned and rock-stable version of Xen), > choose virtualization during installation. > > -- > Fajar >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Tim Bearden <tim.bearden@gmail.com> wrote:> If I install CentOS w/ the virtualization build, would it be a > barebones OS?Nope> I don''t want a GUI slowing the system down and would > like all the hardware to be utilized by the VMs instead. For > instance, ESXi is command line only, very basic OS install.Then write down your priorities, and based on that, select the best virtualization solution for you. If you just want it to work with as little effort as possible, then maybe you''d better stick with vmware. IIRC they still have the best GUI, and "best" (as in least hassle, with most performance) shared storage for live migration. If you want something that you can tinker with, learn from, and (possibly) replace some components as you see fit, then start with distro that comes with bundled virtualization solution (e.g. Centos5). Once you''re familiar with that then you can start doing some experiments (e.g. upgrading the hypervisor, testing pci passthru, and so on). In between those two, there''s XenServer (and the opensource XCP). It uses xen hypervisor, but with different management tools, so from users'' perspective it''d be more similar to vmware (in that you only have access to the GUI, and everything inside can be considered a black box). -- Fajar _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Fajar A. Nugraha <list@fajar.net> wrote:> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Tim Bearden <tim.bearden@gmail.com> wrote: >> If I install CentOS w/ the virtualization build, would it be a >> barebones OS? > > Nope > >> I don''t want a GUI slowing the system down and would >> like all the hardware to be utilized by the VMs instead. For >> instance, ESXi is command line only, very basic OS install. > > Then write down your priorities, and based on that, select the best > virtualization solution for you. > > If you just want it to work with as little effort as possible, then > maybe you''d better stick with vmware. IIRC they still have the best > GUI, and "best" (as in least hassle, with most performance) shared > storage for live migration.Things are changing it seems: http://blogs.citrix.com/2011/07/06/xenserver-%E2%80%93-virtualization-champion/> > If you want something that you can tinker with, learn from, and > (possibly) replace some components as you see fit, then start with > distro that comes with bundled virtualization solution (e.g. Centos5). > Once you''re familiar with that then you can start doing some > experiments (e.g. upgrading the hypervisor, testing pci passthru, and > so on). > > In between those two, there''s XenServer (and the opensource XCP). It > uses xen hypervisor, but with different management tools, so from > users'' perspective it''d be more similar to vmware (in that you only > have access to the GUI, and everything inside can be considered a > black box). > > -- > Fajar > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >-- Todd Deshane http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm http://www.xen.org/products/cloudxen.html http://runningxen.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
It seems like XenServer will give me the virtual host environment w/ the least amount of overhead. And judging by that article, XenServer Free Edition is now competing directly with ESXi. Since I''m familiar w/ ESXi and wanting to try something similar, then I''ll go ahead and test w/ XenServer. One last question. What''s the purpose of the Xen Live CD? Can I use it to convert P2V for use on XenServer? -- Tim On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Todd Deshane <todd.deshane@xen.org> wrote:> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Fajar A. Nugraha <list@fajar.net> wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Tim Bearden <tim.bearden@gmail.com> wrote: >>> If I install CentOS w/ the virtualization build, would it be a >>> barebones OS? >> >> Nope >> >>> I don''t want a GUI slowing the system down and would >>> like all the hardware to be utilized by the VMs instead. For >>> instance, ESXi is command line only, very basic OS install. >> >> Then write down your priorities, and based on that, select the best >> virtualization solution for you. >> >> If you just want it to work with as little effort as possible, then >> maybe you''d better stick with vmware. IIRC they still have the best >> GUI, and "best" (as in least hassle, with most performance) shared >> storage for live migration. > > Things are changing it seems: > http://blogs.citrix.com/2011/07/06/xenserver-%E2%80%93-virtualization-champion/ > >> >> If you want something that you can tinker with, learn from, and >> (possibly) replace some components as you see fit, then start with >> distro that comes with bundled virtualization solution (e.g. Centos5). >> Once you''re familiar with that then you can start doing some >> experiments (e.g. upgrading the hypervisor, testing pci passthru, and >> so on). >> >> In between those two, there''s XenServer (and the opensource XCP). It >> uses xen hypervisor, but with different management tools, so from >> users'' perspective it''d be more similar to vmware (in that you only >> have access to the GUI, and everything inside can be considered a >> black box). >> >> -- >> Fajar >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xen-users mailing list >> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >> > > > > -- > Todd Deshane > http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm > http://www.xen.org/products/cloudxen.html > http://runningxen.com/ >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Tim Bearden <tim.bearden@gmail.com> wrote:> It seems like XenServer will give me the virtual host environment w/ > the least amount of overhead. And judging by that article, XenServer > Free Edition is now competing directly with ESXi. Since I''m familiar > w/ ESXi and wanting to try something similar, then I''ll go ahead and > test w/ XenServer. >You may also want to take into account: http://wiki.xen.org/xenwiki/XCP/XenServer_Feature_Matrix> One last question. What''s the purpose of the Xen Live CD? Can I use > it to convert P2V for use on XenServer? >The Xen Live CD is just an example working Xen setup. It is not meant for P2V. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Todd Deshane <todd.deshane@xen.org> wrote:>> If you just want it to work with as little effort as possible, then >> maybe you''d better stick with vmware. IIRC they still have the best >> GUI, and "best" (as in least hassle, with most performance) shared >> storage for live migration. > > Things are changing it seems: > http://blogs.citrix.com/2011/07/06/xenserver-%E2%80%93-virtualization-champion/Ah, good to know :) So what''s the equivalent of VMFS for XenServer now? A while back (about a year ago, I think) some local Citrix representative told us they only support nfs (which was a major turn down). -- Fajar _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users