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Stephen Spector

2010-Jul-08 13:50 UTC

[Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry

XCP Users:

As many of you are aware, there are several open source products available for
everyone to use when working with XCP. I would like to get some feedback on the
various tools to get a feeling on how people are using XCP and these tools.

Here are the tools that I am aware of (please respond if you are using another
tool):


*         OpenXenManager -
www.openxenmanager.com<http://www.openxenmanager.com>

*         Xen Orchestra Project - http://xen-orchestra.com

*         Xen VNC Proxy - www.xvpsource.org<http://www.xvpsource.org>

*         Xen Cloud Control System - 
www.xencloudcontrol.com<http://www.xencloudcontrol.com>

*         Convirture - www.convirture.com<http://www.convirture.com> (not
sure if they enabled XCP APIs or not)

Finally, in the XCP meeting yesterday, it came up that XenCenter from Citrix
should also be allowed to connect to XCP as it does not now. XenCenter only runs
on a Windows machine and there is no plan to port to Linux so it is unclear how
many XCP users would leverage this tool. I would like to gauge community
thoughts on this as well.

Thanks.

Stephen Spector

Xen.org Community Manager
T: (772) 621-5062 | M: (954) 854-4257
stephen.spector@xen.org
http://blog.xen.org | @xen_com_mgr
Network World Open Source Exposed
Blog<http://www.networkworld.com/community/spector>





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Nakajima, Jun

2010-Jul-08 22:19 UTC

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[Xen-API] RE: XCP Management Tools Inquiry

Thanks, Steve.

I checked Xen Cloud Control System, but it''s not on line? I''m
not sure if Xen Orchestra Project uses XAPI; I''m negative as far as I
looked the code.

The CloudStack Community Edition looks good (http://open.cloud.com), although it
supports only libvirt as far as I understand. Since they support XenServer 5.6
in the Enterprise Edition, I think they can add XAPI support somehow.

Even if XenCenter runs only on Windows, I think it should be useful if it can
connect to XCP; it''s much easier to install from my experience.  All
the other ones assume particular distro of Linux, and they typically require
many things to install.

Jun
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From: xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com
[mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Spector
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:50 AM
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Subject: [Xen-API] XCP Management Tools Inquiry

XCP Users:

As many of you are aware, there are several open source products available for
everyone to use when working with XCP. I would like to get some feedback on the
various tools to get a feeling on how people are using XCP and these tools.

Here are the tools that I am aware of (please respond if you are using another
tool):


*         OpenXenManager -
www.openxenmanager.com<http://www.openxenmanager.com>

*         Xen Orchestra Project - http://xen-orchestra.com

*         Xen VNC Proxy - www.xvpsource.org<http://www.xvpsource.org>

*         Xen Cloud Control System - 
www.xencloudcontrol.com<http://www.xencloudcontrol.com>

*         Convirture - www.convirture.com<http://www.convirture.com> (not
sure if they enabled XCP APIs or not)

Finally, in the XCP meeting yesterday, it came up that XenCenter from Citrix
should also be allowed to connect to XCP as it does not now. XenCenter only runs
on a Windows machine and there is no plan to port to Linux so it is unclear how
many XCP users would leverage this tool. I would like to gauge community
thoughts on this as well.

Thanks.

Stephen Spector

Xen.org Community Manager
T: (772) 621-5062 | M: (954) 854-4257
stephen.spector@xen.org
http://blog.xen.org | @xen_com_mgr
Network World Open Source Exposed
Blog<http://www.networkworld.com/community/spector>





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wangalalei

2010-Jul-09 04:26 UTC

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RE: [Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry

hi:

as far as to now,i have tried both openxenmanager(openxencerter) and convirture
2.0,here are some of my experience:
1) for openxenmanager(opencenter),i run it on my window xp ,gui seems great,but
it seems to be too easy to going dead,so i need to restart
    it again and again....
2) for convirt 2.0,i tried to install the convirt tool on the xcp host but
failed;the installing script report as follows:

[root@xenserver-xcp-1 scripts]# ./convirt-tool setup
DISTRO RedHat
VER 0.1.1-25823p
CODENAME xenenterprise
KERNEL 2.6.27.42-0.1.1.xs0.1.1.737.1065xen
ARCH i686
Info: Sourcing
/opt/convirture-tools-2.0/install/managed_server/scripts/../../../common/scripts/RedHat_functions
/opt/convirture-tools-2.0/install/managed_server/scripts/../../../common/scripts/functions:
line 83: xm: command not found
Xen server (xend) is not running... 
Error detecting virtualization platform.
For Xen, please make sure that you reboot in to a Xen kernel and Xen server is
running, while for KVM, the kvm modules are correctly loaded.



From: stephen.spector@citrix.com
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:50:14 -0400
CC: 
Subject: [Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry
















XCP Users:

 

As many of you are aware, there are several open source
products available for everyone to use when working with XCP. I would like to
get some feedback on the various tools to get a feeling on how people are using
XCP and these tools. 

 

Here are the tools that I am aware of (please respond if you
are using another tool):

 

·        
OpenXenManager – www.openxenmanager.com

·        
Xen Orchestra Project – http://xen-orchestra.com

·        
Xen VNC Proxy – www.xvpsource.org

·        
Xen Cloud Control System -  www.xencloudcontrol.com 

·        
Convirture – www.convirture.com (not sure if they
enabled XCP APIs or not)

 

Finally, in the XCP meeting yesterday, it came up that
XenCenter from Citrix should also be allowed to connect to XCP as it does not
now.
XenCenter only runs on a Windows machine and there is no plan to port to Linux
so it is unclear how many XCP users would leverage this tool. I would like to
gauge
community thoughts on this as well. 

 

Thanks.

 

Stephen Spector

 

Xen.org Community Manager

T: (772) 621-5062 | M: (954) 854-4257

stephen.spector@xen.org 

http://blog.xen.org | @xen_com_mgr

Network
World Open Source Exposed Blog

 

 

 

 		 	   		  
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<cluster@xinet.it>

2010-Jul-09 08:09 UTC

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R: [Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry

Hi all,

 

my experience is very similar to wangalalei’s.

 

OpenXenManager is really a good think but it is unstable. I have to restart
it after quite every operation. I was unable to install convirture 2.0 too.

 

Vern’s XCCP is really a good project, I think that it would be wonderful if
Vern will release a customized VM with all installed like XVP.

 

I think that XenCenter could be a very good solution, even if it runs only
on windows platform. 

 

Cheers,

Francesco Gallo

 

 

Da: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com
[mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] Per conto di wangalalei
Inviato: venerdì 9 luglio 2010 06:27
A: Stephen Spector; xen-users@lists.xensource.com;
xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Oggetto: RE: [Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry

 


hi:

as far as to now,i have tried both openxenmanager(openxencerter) and
convirture 2.0,here are some of my experience:
1) for openxenmanager(opencenter),i run it on my window xp ,gui seems great,
but it seems to be too easy to going dead,so i need to restart
    it again and again....
2) for convirt 2.0,i tried to install the convirt tool on the xcp host but
failed;the installing script report as follows:

[root@xenserver-xcp-1 scripts]# ./convirt-tool setup
DISTRO RedHat
VER 0.1.1-25823p
CODENAME xenenterprise
KERNEL 2.6.27.42-0.1.1.xs0.1.1.737.1065xen
ARCH i686
Info: Sourcing
/opt/convirture-tools-2.0/install/managed_server/scripts/../../../common/scr
ipts/RedHat_functions
/opt/convirture-tools-2.0/install/managed_server/scripts/../../../common/scr
ipts/functions: line 83: xm: command not found
Xen server (xend) is not running... 
Error detecting virtualization platform.
For Xen, please make sure that you reboot in to a Xen kernel and Xen server
is running, while for KVM, the kvm modules are correctly loaded.




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From: stephen.spector@citrix.com
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:50:14 -0400
CC: 
Subject: [Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry

XCP Users:

 

As many of you are aware, there are several open source products available
for everyone to use when working with XCP. I would like to get some feedback
on the various tools to get a feeling on how people are using XCP and these
tools. 

 

Here are the tools that I am aware of (please respond if you are using
another tool):

 

·         OpenXenManager – www.openxenmanager.com

·         Xen Orchestra Project – http://xen-orchestra.com

·         Xen VNC Proxy – www.xvpsource.org

·         Xen Cloud Control System -  www.xencloudcontrol.com 

·         Convirture – www.convirture.com (not sure if they enabled XCP
APIs or not)

 

Finally, in the XCP meeting yesterday, it came up that XenCenter from Citrix
should also be allowed to connect to XCP as it does not now. XenCenter only
runs on a Windows machine and there is no plan to port to Linux so it is
unclear how many XCP users would leverage this tool. I would like to gauge
community thoughts on this as well. 

 

Thanks.

 

Stephen Spector

 

Xen.org Community Manager

T: (772) 621-5062 | M: (954) 854-4257

stephen.spector@xen.org 

http://blog.xen.org | @xen_com_mgr

Network World Open Source <http://www.networkworld.com/community/spector>
Exposed Blog

 

 

 

 

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Alberto González Rodríguez

2010-Jul-09 08:55 UTC

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Re: [Xen-API] XCP Management Tools Inquiry

i use openxenmanager

2010/7/8 Stephen Spector
<stephen.spector@citrix.com>:> XCP Users:
>
>
>
> As many of you are aware, there are several open source products available
> for everyone to use when working with XCP. I would like to get some
feedback
> on the various tools to get a feeling on how people are using XCP and these
> tools.
>
>
>
> Here are the tools that I am aware of (please respond if you are using
> another tool):
>
>
>
> ·         OpenXenManager – www.openxenmanager.com
>
> ·         Xen Orchestra Project – http://xen-orchestra.com
>
> ·         Xen VNC Proxy – www.xvpsource.org
>
> ·         Xen Cloud Control System -  www.xencloudcontrol.com
>
> ·         Convirture – www.convirture.com (not sure if they enabled XCP
APIs
> or not)
>
>
>
> Finally, in the XCP meeting yesterday, it came up that XenCenter from
Citrix
> should also be allowed to connect to XCP as it does not now. XenCenter only
> runs on a Windows machine and there is no plan to port to Linux so it is
> unclear how many XCP users would leverage this tool. I would like to gauge
> community thoughts on this as well.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Stephen Spector
>
>
>
> Xen.org Community Manager
>
> T: (772) 621-5062 | M: (954) 854-4257
>
> stephen.spector@xen.org
>
> http://blog.xen.org | @xen_com_mgr
>
> Network World Open Source Exposed Blog
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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riki

2010-Jul-09 10:38 UTC

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Re: [Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry

Hello,

for XCP, there is only usable solution and it si openxenmanager, but it
is standalone application and lacks multiple users support and their
privileges (administrator, operator (provisioning machines), guest (view
only). The application often hangs or dies.

I tried Convirt, it doesn`t looks like to support XCP, not even in
Enterprise version.

XCC site is down

It would be nice if Convirt has XCP support, not only kvm/xen.

r.



Stephen Spector wrote:> 
> 
> XCP Users:
> 
>  
> 
> As many of you are aware, there are several open source products
> available for everyone to use when working with XCP. I would like to get
> some feedback on the various tools to get a feeling on how people are
> using XCP and these tools.
> 
>  
> 
> Here are the tools that I am aware of (please respond if you are using
> another tool):
> 
>  
> 
> ·         OpenXenManager – www.openxenmanager.com
> <http://www.openxenmanager.com>
> 
> ·         Xen Orchestra Project – http://xen-orchestra.com
> 
> ·         Xen VNC Proxy – www.xvpsource.org
<http://www.xvpsource.org>
> 
> ·         Xen Cloud Control System -  
> <http://www.xencloudcontrol.com>
> 
> ·         Convirture – www.convirture.com <http://www.convirture.com>
> (not sure if they enabled XCP APIs or not)
> 
>  
> 
> Finally, in the XCP meeting yesterday, it came up that XenCenter from
> Citrix should also be allowed to connect to XCP as it does not now.
> XenCenter only runs on a Windows machine and there is no plan to port to
> Linux so it is unclear how many XCP users would leverage this tool. I
> would like to gauge community thoughts on this as well.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> *Stephen Spector *
> 
>  
> 
> Xen.org Community Manager
> 
> *T:* (772) 621-5062 | *M:* (954) 854-4257
> 
> stephen.spector@xen.org
> 
> http://blog.xen.org | @xen_com_mgr
> 
> Network World Open Source Exposed Blog
> <http://www.networkworld.com/community/spector>
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Vern Burke

2010-Jul-09 12:42 UTC

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[Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] RE: XCP Management Tools Inquiry

Whoops, sorry about that, I''ll have the XCCS site back up and running 
properly in a bit (I''ve been focusing too hard on coding this week). 
Watch for the XCCS new release coming later today :).

Vern Burke

SwiftWater Telecom
http://www.swiftwatertel.com
Xen Cloud Control System
http://www.xencloudcontrol.com

On 7/8/2010 6:19 PM, Nakajima, Jun wrote:> Thanks, Steve.
>
> I checked Xen Cloud Control System, but it’s not on line? I’m not sure
> if Xen Orchestra Project uses XAPI; I’m negative as far as I looked the
> code.
>
> The CloudStack Community Edition looks good (http://open.cloud.com),
> although it supports only libvirt as far as I understand. Since they
> support XenServer 5.6 in the Enterprise Edition, I think they can add
> XAPI support somehow.
>
> Even if XenCenter runs only on Windows, I think it should be useful if
> it can connect to XCP; it’s much easier to install from my experience.
> All the other ones assume particular distro of Linux, and they typically
> require many things to install.
>
> Jun
>
> ___
>
> Intel Open Source Technology Center
>
> *From:* xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com
> [mailto:xen-api-bounces@lists.xensource.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Spector
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:50 AM
> *To:* xen-users@lists.xensource.com; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
> *Subject:* [Xen-API] XCP Management Tools Inquiry
>
> XCP Users:
>
> As many of you are aware, there are several open source products
> available for everyone to use when working with XCP. I would like to get
> some feedback on the various tools to get a feeling on how people are
> using XCP and these tools.
>
> Here are the tools that I am aware of (please respond if you are using
> another tool):
>
> · OpenXenManager – www.openxenmanager.com
<http://www.openxenmanager.com>
>
> · Xen Orchestra Project – http://xen-orchestra.com
>
> · Xen VNC Proxy – www.xvpsource.org <http://www.xvpsource.org>
>
> · Xen Cloud Control System - www.xencloudcontrol.com
> <http://www.xencloudcontrol.com>
>
> · Convirture – www.convirture.com <http://www.convirture.com> (not
sure
> if they enabled XCP APIs or not)
>
> Finally, in the XCP meeting yesterday, it came up that XenCenter from
> Citrix should also be allowed to connect to XCP as it does not now.
> XenCenter only runs on a Windows machine and there is no plan to port to
> Linux so it is unclear how many XCP users would leverage this tool. I
> would like to gauge community thoughts on this as well.
>
> Thanks.
>
> *Stephen Spector*
>
> Xen.org Community Manager
>
> *T:* (772) 621-5062 | *M:* (954) 854-4257
>
> stephen.spector@xen.org
>
> http://blog.xen.org | @xen_com_mgr
>
> Network World Open Source Exposed Blog
> <http://www.networkworld.com/community/spector>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Xen-users@lists.xensource.com
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Vern Burke

2010-Jul-09 12:44 UTC

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Re: R: [Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry

Thanks Francesco!

A virtual appliance release for XCCS is next on the list :).

Vern Burke

SwiftWater Telecom
http://www.swiftwatertel.com
ISP/CLEC Engineering Services
Data Center Services
Remote Backup Services

On 7/9/2010 4:09 AM, cluster@xinet.it wrote:> Hi all,
> 
> my experience is very similar to wangalalei’s.
> 
> OpenXenManager is really a good think but it is unstable. I have to 
> restart it after quite every operation. I was unable to install 
> convirture 2.0 too.
> 
> Vern’s XCCP is really a good project, I think that it would be wonderful 
> if Vern will release a customized VM with all installed like XVP.
> 
> I think that XenCenter could be a very good solution, even if it runs 
> only on windows platform.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Francesco Gallo
> 
> *Da:* xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com 
> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] *Per conto di *wangalalei
> *Inviato:* venerdì 9 luglio 2010 06:27
> *A:* Stephen Spector; xen-users@lists.xensource.com; 
> xen-api@lists.xensource.com
> *Oggetto:* RE: [Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry
> 
> 
> hi:
> 
> as far as to now,i have tried both openxenmanager(openxencerter) and 
> convirture 2.0,here are some of my experience:
> 1) for openxenmanager(opencenter),i run it on my window xp ,gui seems 
> great,but it seems to be too easy to going dead,so i need to restart
> it again and again....
> 2) for convirt 2.0,i tried to install the convirt tool on the xcp host 
> but failed;the installing script report as follows:
> 
> [root@xenserver-xcp-1 scripts]# ./convirt-tool setup
> DISTRO RedHat
> VER 0.1.1-25823p
> CODENAME xenenterprise
> KERNEL 2.6.27.42-0.1.1.xs0.1.1.737.1065xen
> ARCH i686
> Info: Sourcing 
>
/opt/convirture-tools-2.0/install/managed_server/scripts/../../../common/scripts/RedHat_functions
>
/opt/convirture-tools-2.0/install/managed_server/scripts/../../../common/scripts/functions:
> line 83: xm: command not found
> Xen server (xend) is not running...
> Error detecting virtualization platform.
> For Xen, please make sure that you reboot in to a Xen kernel and Xen 
> server is running, while for KVM, the kvm modules are correctly loaded.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From: stephen.spector@citrix.com
> To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com; xen-api@lists.xensource.com
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:50:14 -0400
> CC:
> Subject: [Xen-users] XCP Management Tools Inquiry
> 
> XCP Users:
> 
> As many of you are aware, there are several open source products 
> available for everyone to use when working with XCP. I would like to get 
> some feedback on the various tools to get a feeling on how people are 
> using XCP and these tools.
> 
> Here are the tools that I am aware of (please respond if you are using 
> another tool):
> 
> · OpenXenManager – www.openxenmanager.com
<http://www.openxenmanager.com>
> 
> · Xen Orchestra Project – http://xen-orchestra.com
> 
> · Xen VNC Proxy – www.xvpsource.org <http://www.xvpsource.org>
> 
> · Xen Cloud Control System - www.xencloudcontrol.com 
> <http://www.xencloudcontrol.com>
> 
> · Convirture – www.convirture.com <http://www.convirture.com> (not
sure
> if they enabled XCP APIs or not)
> 
> Finally, in the XCP meeting yesterday, it came up that XenCenter from 
> Citrix should also be allowed to connect to XCP as it does not now. 
> XenCenter only runs on a Windows machine and there is no plan to port to 
> Linux so it is unclear how many XCP users would leverage this tool. I 
> would like to gauge community thoughts on this as well.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> *Stephen Spector*
> 
> Xen.org Community Manager
> 
> *T:* (772) 621-5062 | *M:* (954) 854-4257
> 
> stephen.spector@xen.org
> 
> http://blog.xen.org | @xen_com_mgr
> 
> Network World Open Source Exposed Blog 
> <http://www.networkworld.com/community/spector>
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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Vern Burke

2010-Jul-09 13:05 UTC

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Stephen:

    Well, obviously I''m using XCCS, it being my baby and all :).
I''m
running a full scale public cloud with it and XCP here.

My goal with the combination, and the reason XCCS exists in the first 
place, is to match or beat the big boys for cloud automation. It''s nice
to be able to beat Amazon, etc on price but if you can beat them on user 
experience and functionality then all the better.

The next foray with XCP and XCCS is hosted infrastructure private clouds :).

Vern Burke

SwiftWater Telecom
http://www.swiftwatertel.com
Xen Cloud Control System
http://www.xencloudcontrol.com

On 7/8/2010 9:50 AM, Stephen Spector wrote:> XCP Users:
>
> As many of you are aware, there are several open source products
> available for everyone to use when working with XCP. I would like to get
> some feedback on the various tools to get a feeling on how people are
> using XCP and these tools.
>
> Here are the tools that I am aware of (please respond if you are using
> another tool):
>
> · OpenXenManager – www.openxenmanager.com
<http://www.openxenmanager.com>
>
> · Xen Orchestra Project – http://xen-orchestra.com
>
> · Xen VNC Proxy – www.xvpsource.org <http://www.xvpsource.org>
>
> · Xen Cloud Control System - www.xencloudcontrol.com
> <http://www.xencloudcontrol.com>
>
> · Convirture – www.convirture.com <http://www.convirture.com> (not
sure
> if they enabled XCP APIs or not)
>
> Finally, in the XCP meeting yesterday, it came up that XenCenter from
> Citrix should also be allowed to connect to XCP as it does not now.
> XenCenter only runs on a Windows machine and there is no plan to port to
> Linux so it is unclear how many XCP users would leverage this tool. I
> would like to gauge community thoughts on this as well.
>
> Thanks.
>
> *Stephen Spector*
>
> Xen.org Community Manager
>
> *T:* (772) 621-5062 | *M:* (954) 854-4257
>
> stephen.spector@xen.org
>
> http://blog.xen.org | @xen_com_mgr
>
> Network World Open Source Exposed Blog
> <http://www.networkworld.com/community/spector>
>
>
>
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