George Shuklin
2010-Jul-07 17:03 UTC
[Xen-users] [XCP] Strange bug this avaible memory for guests
I got really strange situation with memory on host: xe host-list params=memory-free memory-free ( RO) : 10305536 (10Mb) xe host-compute-free-memory 3147059200 (3Gb) A huge difference! And xentop show different numbers too! I will keep this host online "as is" and I am ready to provide information for debbugging or perform needed actions. -- wBR,George. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Dave Scott
2010-Jul-07 19:40 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] [XCP] Strange bug this avaible memory for guests
Hi George, I think I can explain this one, comments inline:> I got really strange situation with memory on host: > > > xe host-list params=memory-free > memory-free ( RO) : 10305536 > (10Mb)I bet this is the same value as "free_pages" (suitably converted) as shown by /opt/xensource/debug/xenops physinfo This represents the actual free memory on the host at this point in time. I bet you''ve configured VM.dynamic_min and VM.dynamic_max so that most memory is being shared between the VMs. The ballooning daemon (squeezed) always keeps 9-10MiB free on the host because (IIRC) * only free memory with physical addresses < 4 GiB (IIRC) can be used for certain xen structures * xen allocates memory from the highest physical address downwards => therefore the 10MiB we keep free will be 10MiB with low physical addresses which can be used for certain xen structures I think before we kept this memory free we got into bad states where there was lots of memory free but you couldn''t create a domain. If we had something like memory defrag then we could let this number drop to 0, which would be ideal because it would represent maximum memory utilization.> > xe host-compute-free-memory > 3147059200 > (3Gb)I had to look into the code to understand this one :) This function is calculating, "the maximum amount of memory we *could* free if we ballooned every domain down to its VM.dynamic_min". This is the amount of memory which is considered when deciding whether we could in theory start another VM. Does that help explain what''s going on or are there still discrepancies? Cheers, Dave> > A huge difference! And xentop show different numbers too! > > I will keep this host online "as is" and I am ready to provide > information for debbugging or perform needed actions. > > -- > wBR,George. > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
George Shuklin
2010-Jul-07 20:08 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] [XCP] Strange bug this avaible memory for guests
Thank you. I think, I found an source of problem: name-label ( RW) : one power-state ( RO): running memory-actual ( RO): 8589934592 memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 11739856896 memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 11739856896 memory-static-min ( RW): 8589934592 (11739856896 - 8589934592 is my lost 3Gb of memory) I do not understand one thing: how memory-actual can be actualy lower, than memory-dynamic-min? How I do this: 1) I boot machine with memory-dynamic-max/min about 11 Gb. 2) I found I have no memory. 3) I decide to reduce memory to lower values: xe vm-memory-dynamic-range-set vm=one max=8GiB min=8GiB (no errors). After few retries I got reverse situation: name-label ( RW) : one power-state ( RO): running memory-actual ( RO): 11739856896 memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 9663676416 memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 9663676416 memory-static-min ( RW): 8589934592 And I think this is REALLY bug, because memory-actual shall not be higher, than memory-dynamic-max. ... and I think (I''m not sure) this related to second bug I wrote few days ago about impossibility to raize dynamic-max over value, set up prior to VM statup. I reconfirm it at XCP 0.11, XCP 0.5RC3 and XCP0.5, so I''ll repost it in separate letter. В Срд, 07/07/2010 в 20:40 +0100, Dave Scott пишет:> Hi George, > > I think I can explain this one, comments inline: > > I got really strange situation with memory on host: > > > > > > xe host-list params=memory-free > > memory-free ( RO) : 10305536 > > (10Mb) > > I bet this is the same value as "free_pages" (suitably converted) as shown by > /opt/xensource/debug/xenops physinfo > > This represents the actual free memory on the host at this point in time. I bet you''ve configured VM.dynamic_min and VM.dynamic_max so that most memory is being shared between the VMs. The ballooning daemon (squeezed) always keeps 9-10MiB free on the host because (IIRC) > * only free memory with physical addresses < 4 GiB (IIRC) can be used for certain xen structures > * xen allocates memory from the highest physical address downwards > => therefore the 10MiB we keep free will be 10MiB with low physical addresses which can be used for certain xen structures > > I think before we kept this memory free we got into bad states where there was lots of memory free but you couldn''t create a domain. If we had something like memory defrag then we could let this number drop to 0, which would be ideal because it would represent maximum memory utilization. > > > > > xe host-compute-free-memory > > 3147059200 > > (3Gb) > > I had to look into the code to understand this one :) This function is calculating, "the maximum amount of memory we *could* free if we ballooned every domain down to its VM.dynamic_min". This is the amount of memory which is considered when deciding whether we could in theory start another VM. > > Does that help explain what''s going on or are there still discrepancies? > > Cheers, > Dave > > > > A huge difference! And xentop show different numbers too! > > > > I will keep this host online "as is" and I am ready to provide > > information for debbugging or perform needed actions. > > > > -- > > wBR,George. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users