Patrick
2006-Jan-08 22:55 UTC
[Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
Hello, I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, as xen is constantly moaning about the amount of memory reservated for dom0 and thus is rebooting again and again (the appropiate settings are given and correct). I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at all .. then xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI functionality at all (which means lspci is empty and all my PCI devices do not work, even not if I try to load the appropiate driver manually). Again the settings (config) are compiled in and correctly set (which simply means I wasnt a jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another confirmation on my side, as far as the problerm above''s concerned, is that I tried exactly the same kernel config (without the xen config symbols of course) and compiled a vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. it boots up fine and PCI support is also given, while doing the same with a xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci non-functionality. Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned above would be appreciated. best regards, Patrick _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ian Pratt
2006-Jan-08 23:25 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
> I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial > repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. > Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, as > xen is constantly moaning about the amount of memory > reservated for dom0 and thus is rebooting again and again > (the appropiate settings are given and correct).Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has ACPI and sems to work fine for the almost everyone. Ian> I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at all > .. then xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI > functionality at all (which means lspci is empty and all my > PCI devices do not work, even not if I try to load the > appropiate driver manually). Again the settings (config) are > compiled in and correctly set (which simply means I wasnt a > jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). > I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another > confirmation on my side, as far as the problerm above''s > concerned, is that I tried exactly the same kernel config > (without the xen config symbols of course) and compiled a > vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. it boots up fine and PCI > support is also given, while doing the same with a > xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci > non-functionality. > > Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned > above would be appreciated. > > > best regards, > Patrick > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Patrick
2006-Jan-08 23:32 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
First of all .. as I said ACPI was the reason why my mashine was constantly rebooting as - if ACPI enabled - xen does did not detect the amount of RAM properly and thus is always claiming it wasnt enough. Sencondly, the xen kernel config is not that much different to mine .. my kernel is just more lightweight tho. ... ACPI isnt the main problem, could you please also refer to the second problem, which is of much more importance to me? best regards, Patrick Ian Pratt wrote:> > > >>I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial >>repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. >>Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, as >>xen is constantly moaning about the amount of memory >>reservated for dom0 and thus is rebooting again and again >>(the appropiate settings are given and correct). >> >> > >Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has ACPI and sems >to work fine for the almost everyone. > >Ian > > > >>I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at all >>.. then xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI >>functionality at all (which means lspci is empty and all my >>PCI devices do not work, even not if I try to load the >>appropiate driver manually). Again the settings (config) are >>compiled in and correctly set (which simply means I wasnt a >>jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). >>I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another >>confirmation on my side, as far as the problerm above''s >>concerned, is that I tried exactly the same kernel config >>(without the xen config symbols of course) and compiled a >>vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. it boots up fine and PCI >>support is also given, while doing the same with a >>xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci >>non-functionality. >> >>Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned >>above would be appreciated. >> >> >>best regards, >>Patrick >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Xen-users mailing list >>Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >> >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ian Pratt
2006-Jan-09 01:11 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
> First of all .. as I said ACPI was the reason why my mashine > was constantly rebooting as - if ACPI enabled - xen does did > not detect the amount of RAM properly and thus is always > claiming it wasnt enough. > Sencondly, the xen kernel config is not that much different > to mine .. > my kernel is just more lightweight tho. > ... > ACPI isnt the main problem, could you please also refer to > the second problem, which is of much more importance to me?Can you not just put ''acpi=off'' on the *xen* command line (not the linux one)? Please try this with the -xen kernel. Ian> best regards, > Patrick > > Ian Pratt wrote: > > > > > > > > >>I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial > >>repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. > >>Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, as xen is > >>constantly moaning about the amount of memory reservated > for dom0 and > >>thus is rebooting again and again (the appropiate settings > are given > >>and correct). > >> > >> > > > >Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has > ACPI and sems > >to work fine for the almost everyone. > > > >Ian > > > > > > > >>I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at > all .. then > >>xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI > functionality at all > >>(which means lspci is empty and all my PCI devices do not > work, even > >>not if I try to load the appropiate driver manually). Again the > >>settings (config) are compiled in and correctly set (which simply > >>means I wasnt a jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). > >>I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another > confirmation on my > >>side, as far as the problerm above''s concerned, is that I tried > >>exactly the same kernel config (without the xen config symbols of > >>course) and compiled a vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. > it boots up > >>fine and PCI support is also given, while doing the same with a > >>xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci > >>non-functionality. > >> > >>Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned above > >>would be appreciated. > >> > >> > >>best regards, > >>Patrick > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Xen-users mailing list > >>Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > >>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Patrick
2006-Jan-09 14:55 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
FFS .. I do not care about ACPI .. now I ask you the _second time_ to refer to my PCI problem as without PCI nothing works at all. Patrick Ian Pratt wrote:>>First of all .. as I said ACPI was the reason why my mashine >>was constantly rebooting as - if ACPI enabled - xen does did >>not detect the amount of RAM properly and thus is always >>claiming it wasnt enough. >>Sencondly, the xen kernel config is not that much different >>to mine .. >>my kernel is just more lightweight tho. >>... >>ACPI isnt the main problem, could you please also refer to >>the second problem, which is of much more importance to me? >> >> > >Can you not just put ''acpi=off'' on the *xen* command line (not the linux >one)? > >Please try this with the -xen kernel. > >Ian > > > >>best regards, >>Patrick >> >>Ian Pratt wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial >>>>repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. >>>>Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, as xen is >>>>constantly moaning about the amount of memory reservated >>>> >>>> >>for dom0 and >> >> >>>>thus is rebooting again and again (the appropiate settings >>>> >>>> >>are given >> >> >>>>and correct). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has >>> >>> >>ACPI and sems >> >> >>>to work fine for the almost everyone. >>> >>>Ian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at >>>> >>>> >>all .. then >> >> >>>>xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI >>>> >>>> >>functionality at all >> >> >>>>(which means lspci is empty and all my PCI devices do not >>>> >>>> >>work, even >> >> >>>>not if I try to load the appropiate driver manually). Again the >>>>settings (config) are compiled in and correctly set (which simply >>>>means I wasnt a jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). >>>>I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another >>>> >>>> >>confirmation on my >> >> >>>>side, as far as the problerm above''s concerned, is that I tried >>>>exactly the same kernel config (without the xen config symbols of >>>>course) and compiled a vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. >>>> >>>> >>it boots up >> >> >>>>fine and PCI support is also given, while doing the same with a >>>>xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci >>>>non-functionality. >>>> >>>>Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned above >>>>would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>>best regards, >>>>Patrick >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Xen-users mailing list >>>>Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >>>>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ian Pratt
2006-Jan-09 15:09 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
> FFS .. I do not care about ACPI .. now I ask you the _second > time_ to refer to my PCI problem as without PCI nothing works at all.If you use one of our kernels PCI will likely work fine. If you''ve got a broken bios that doesn''t do acpi then disable it with acpi=off on the xen command line. I''d much rather help you get something working with a known good kernel than trying to second guess all the possible ways you could have botched your own config... Ian> Patrick > > Ian Pratt wrote: > > >>First of all .. as I said ACPI was the reason why my mashine was > >>constantly rebooting as - if ACPI enabled - xen does did not detect > >>the amount of RAM properly and thus is always claiming it wasnt > >>enough. > >>Sencondly, the xen kernel config is not that much different > to mine .. > >>my kernel is just more lightweight tho. > >>... > >>ACPI isnt the main problem, could you please also refer to > the second > >>problem, which is of much more importance to me? > >> > >> > > > >Can you not just put ''acpi=off'' on the *xen* command line (not the > >linux one)? > > > >Please try this with the -xen kernel. > > > >Ian > > > > > > > >>best regards, > >>Patrick > >> > >>Ian Pratt wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial > >>>>repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. > >>>>Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, > as xen is > >>>>constantly moaning about the amount of memory reservated > >>>> > >>>> > >>for dom0 and > >> > >> > >>>>thus is rebooting again and again (the appropiate settings > >>>> > >>>> > >>are given > >> > >> > >>>>and correct). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has > >>> > >>> > >>ACPI and sems > >> > >> > >>>to work fine for the almost everyone. > >>> > >>>Ian > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at > >>>> > >>>> > >>all .. then > >> > >> > >>>>xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI > >>>> > >>>> > >>functionality at all > >> > >> > >>>>(which means lspci is empty and all my PCI devices do not > >>>> > >>>> > >>work, even > >> > >> > >>>>not if I try to load the appropiate driver manually). Again the > >>>>settings (config) are compiled in and correctly set (which simply > >>>>means I wasnt a jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). > >>>>I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another > >>>> > >>>> > >>confirmation on my > >> > >> > >>>>side, as far as the problerm above''s concerned, is that I tried > >>>>exactly the same kernel config (without the xen config symbols of > >>>>course) and compiled a vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. > >>>> > >>>> > >>it boots up > >> > >> > >>>>fine and PCI support is also given, while doing the same with a > >>>>xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci > >>>>non-functionality. > >>>> > >>>>Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned above > >>>>would be appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>best regards, > >>>>Patrick > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>Xen-users mailing list > >>>>Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > >>>>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ian Pratt wrote:> Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has ACPI and sems > to work fine for the almost everyone.I personally don''t use it because maintaining versioned initrds is a pain. I have a heavily customized initrd (my Dom0 is a Gentoo image booting off root-on-LVM), and keeping it as just one image is much easier than having a separate image (with different modules copied in) for every Xen kernel variant I test. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Patrick
2006-Jan-09 18:34 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
thats rubbish .. if you cant tell me what should be up with my config, then better dont say anything at all. You even did not listen that I compiled a vanilla kernel with the kernel config that does NOT work with xen, but with the vanilal kernel PCI works goddamn fine. Secondly, if you read my posts before more carefully then you''d know that my bios supports ACPI and that the xen kernel (although without PCI) boots but then it''s rebooting and saying that I didnt not allocated enough memory for the memory reservation of dom0 (while without apci enabled it doesnt do this and boots fine, just without PCI). Thus its neither a fault of my config nor of anything else that is related to my person, but only to xen and its faultiness. Patrick Ian Pratt wrote:>>FFS .. I do not care about ACPI .. now I ask you the _second >>time_ to refer to my PCI problem as without PCI nothing works at all. >> >> > >If you use one of our kernels PCI will likely work fine. If you''ve got a >broken bios that doesn''t do acpi then disable it with acpi=off on the >xen command line. I''d much rather help you get something working with a >known good kernel than trying to second guess all the possible ways you >could have botched your own config... > >Ian > > > >>Patrick >> >>Ian Pratt wrote: >> >> >> >>>>First of all .. as I said ACPI was the reason why my mashine was >>>>constantly rebooting as - if ACPI enabled - xen does did not detect >>>>the amount of RAM properly and thus is always claiming it wasnt >>>>enough. >>>>Sencondly, the xen kernel config is not that much different >>>> >>>> >>to mine .. >> >> >>>>my kernel is just more lightweight tho. >>>>... >>>>ACPI isnt the main problem, could you please also refer to >>>> >>>> >>the second >> >> >>>>problem, which is of much more importance to me? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Can you not just put ''acpi=off'' on the *xen* command line (not the >>>linux one)? >>> >>>Please try this with the -xen kernel. >>> >>>Ian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>best regards, >>>>Patrick >>>> >>>>Ian Pratt wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial >>>>>>repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. >>>>>>Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>as xen is >> >> >>>>>>constantly moaning about the amount of memory reservated >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>for dom0 and >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>thus is rebooting again and again (the appropiate settings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>are given >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>and correct). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>ACPI and sems >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>to work fine for the almost everyone. >>>>> >>>>>Ian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>all .. then >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>functionality at all >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>(which means lspci is empty and all my PCI devices do not >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>work, even >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>not if I try to load the appropiate driver manually). Again the >>>>>>settings (config) are compiled in and correctly set (which simply >>>>>>means I wasnt a jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). >>>>>>I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>confirmation on my >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>side, as far as the problerm above''s concerned, is that I tried >>>>>>exactly the same kernel config (without the xen config symbols of >>>>>>course) and compiled a vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>it boots up >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>fine and PCI support is also given, while doing the same with a >>>>>>xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci >>>>>>non-functionality. >>>>>> >>>>>>Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned above >>>>>>would be appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>best regards, >>>>>>Patrick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>Xen-users mailing list >>>>>>Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >>>>>>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Mogens Valentin
2006-Jan-09 20:25 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
Patrick wrote:> thats rubbish .. if you cant tell me what should be up with my config, > then better dont say anything at all. You even did not listen that I > compiled a vanilla kernel with the kernel config that does NOT work with > xen, but with the vanilal kernel PCI works goddamn fine. > Secondly, if you read my posts before more carefully then you''d know > that my bios supports ACPI and that the xen kernel (although without > PCI) boots but then it''s rebooting and saying that I didnt not allocated > enough memory for the memory reservation of dom0 (while without apci > enabled it doesnt do this and boots fine, just without PCI). > Thus its neither a fault of my config nor of anything else that is > related to my person, but only to xen and its faultiness.Then don''t use it. Or better, provide your kernel config for analysis. -- Kind regards, Mogens Valentin _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ralph Passgang
2006-Jan-09 20:38 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
If you want another "rubbish" oppinion, then I think it is either your kernel config or your chipset that is causing the trouble. you said you have an sis chipset. In the past (about 1 to maybe 2 years maybe) sis chipset were known to be not really working well with linux. For example I had trouble with two pc''s having a sis chipset (diffrent ones!). on the first pc std. ethernet nics like 3com, intel, etc. was not working (even not listed in lcpci when acpi was on, without acpi there were listed but not working). On the other we had a lot of trouble to get a t1/e1 telco pri card running, which needs 1000 interrupts/sec, which was obvously to much for the sis chipset wih an 1Ghz CPU (at least with linux)... on a bulk 333mhz system with an intel chipset there was no interrupt problems at all. but that are only my 50 cents :) btw. before getting unpolite, what about sending your kernel config to the list, so that someone has a chance to reproduce that... until now nobody get enough information from you to really help. and don''t say ian hasn''t tried to help. and why don''t you simply try a std. xen kernel config and maybe "acpi=off"? If this works with your pc, then it''s time to see why your own config is not working or what else the problem could be. if it also doesn''t work, then it''s probably something else, but at least it is sure that there were no stupid mistakes in the kernel config. You want something, do something... --Ralph Am Montag, 9. Januar 2006 19:34 schrieb Patrick:> thats rubbish .. if you cant tell me what should be up with my config, > then better dont say anything at all. You even did not listen that I > compiled a vanilla kernel with the kernel config that does NOT work with > xen, but with the vanilal kernel PCI works goddamn fine. > Secondly, if you read my posts before more carefully then you''d know > that my bios supports ACPI and that the xen kernel (although without > PCI) boots but then it''s rebooting and saying that I didnt not allocated > enough memory for the memory reservation of dom0 (while without apci > enabled it doesnt do this and boots fine, just without PCI). > Thus its neither a fault of my config nor of anything else that is > related to my person, but only to xen and its faultiness. > > Patrick > > Ian Pratt wrote: > >>FFS .. I do not care about ACPI .. now I ask you the _second > >>time_ to refer to my PCI problem as without PCI nothing works at all. > > > >If you use one of our kernels PCI will likely work fine. If you''ve got a > >broken bios that doesn''t do acpi then disable it with acpi=off on the > >xen command line. I''d much rather help you get something working with a > >known good kernel than trying to second guess all the possible ways you > >could have botched your own config... > > > >Ian > > > >>Patrick > >> > >>Ian Pratt wrote: > >>>>First of all .. as I said ACPI was the reason why my mashine was > >>>>constantly rebooting as - if ACPI enabled - xen does did not detect > >>>>the amount of RAM properly and thus is always claiming it wasnt > >>>>enough. > >>>>Sencondly, the xen kernel config is not that much different > >> > >>to mine .. > >> > >>>>my kernel is just more lightweight tho. > >>>>... > >>>>ACPI isnt the main problem, could you please also refer to > >> > >>the second > >> > >>>>problem, which is of much more importance to me? > >>> > >>>Can you not just put ''acpi=off'' on the *xen* command line (not the > >>>linux one)? > >>> > >>>Please try this with the -xen kernel. > >>> > >>>Ian > >>> > >>>>best regards, > >>>>Patrick > >>>> > >>>>Ian Pratt wrote: > >>>>>>I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial > >>>>>>repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. > >>>>>>Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, > >> > >>as xen is > >> > >>>>>>constantly moaning about the amount of memory reservated > >>>> > >>>>for dom0 and > >>>> > >>>>>>thus is rebooting again and again (the appropiate settings > >>>> > >>>>are given > >>>> > >>>>>>and correct). > >>>>> > >>>>>Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has > >>>> > >>>>ACPI and sems > >>>> > >>>>>to work fine for the almost everyone. > >>>>> > >>>>>Ian > >>>>> > >>>>>>I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at > >>>> > >>>>all .. then > >>>> > >>>>>>xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI > >>>> > >>>>functionality at all > >>>> > >>>>>>(which means lspci is empty and all my PCI devices do not > >>>> > >>>>work, even > >>>> > >>>>>>not if I try to load the appropiate driver manually). Again the > >>>>>>settings (config) are compiled in and correctly set (which simply > >>>>>>means I wasnt a jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). > >>>>>>I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another > >>>> > >>>>confirmation on my > >>>> > >>>>>>side, as far as the problerm above''s concerned, is that I tried > >>>>>>exactly the same kernel config (without the xen config symbols of > >>>>>>course) and compiled a vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. > >>>> > >>>>it boots up > >>>> > >>>>>>fine and PCI support is also given, while doing the same with a > >>>>>>xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci > >>>>>>non-functionality. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned above > >>>>>>would be appreciated. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>best regards, > >>>>>>Patrick > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>Xen-users mailing list > >>>>>>Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > >>>>>>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Mark Williamson
2006-Jan-09 20:51 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
> thats rubbish .. if you cant tell me what should be up with my config, > then better dont say anything at all. You even did not listen that I > compiled a vanilla kernel with the kernel config that does NOT work with > xen, but with the vanilal kernel PCI works goddamn fine.Running on Xen isn''t the same as running the vanilla kernel! Some options that you can select on vanilla Linux will certainly break things on Xen, so just trying the same config doesn''t necessarily mean there''s not a problem in there somewhere.> Secondly, if you read my posts before more carefully then you''d know > that my bios supports ACPI and that the xen kernel (although without > PCI) boots but then it''s rebooting and saying that I didnt not allocated > enough memory for the memory reservation of dom0 (while without apci > enabled it doesnt do this and boots fine, just without PCI).OK, so that means something''s not working as it should, nobody disputes that. It''s still not much information to go on, though. Not all ACPI implementations are equally well-behaved. It''s possible there''s something odd about yours. If you try the -xen kernel config it provides a *reference point* for debugging your other problems: all you have to do to provide this reference point is build a kernel with the standard config, copy the kernel to the right place and try booting.> Thus its neither a fault of my config nor of anything else that is > related to my person, but only to xen and its faultiness.If Xen doesn''t work on your machine then it means either: a) something in your config is producing unexpected behaviour or b) something unusual about your hardware is producing unexpected behaviour. This problem doesn''t happen for other people, and nobody else has your machine or your config, so unless you help us folks on the mailing list out in diagnosing what''s wrong they''re not going to be *able* to help you get the problem fixed (assuming they still want to). Cheers, Mark> > Patrick > > Ian Pratt wrote: > >>FFS .. I do not care about ACPI .. now I ask you the _second > >>time_ to refer to my PCI problem as without PCI nothing works at all. > > > >If you use one of our kernels PCI will likely work fine. If you''ve got a > >broken bios that doesn''t do acpi then disable it with acpi=off on the > >xen command line. I''d much rather help you get something working with a > >known good kernel than trying to second guess all the possible ways you > >could have botched your own config... > > > >Ian > > > >>Patrick > >> > >>Ian Pratt wrote: > >>>>First of all .. as I said ACPI was the reason why my mashine was > >>>>constantly rebooting as - if ACPI enabled - xen does did not detect > >>>>the amount of RAM properly and thus is always claiming it wasnt > >>>>enough. > >>>>Sencondly, the xen kernel config is not that much different > >> > >>to mine .. > >> > >>>>my kernel is just more lightweight tho. > >>>>... > >>>>ACPI isnt the main problem, could you please also refer to > >> > >>the second > >> > >>>>problem, which is of much more importance to me? > >>> > >>>Can you not just put ''acpi=off'' on the *xen* command line (not the > >>>linux one)? > >>> > >>>Please try this with the -xen kernel. > >>> > >>>Ian > >>> > >>>>best regards, > >>>>Patrick > >>>> > >>>>Ian Pratt wrote: > >>>>>>I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial > >>>>>>repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. > >>>>>>Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, > >> > >>as xen is > >> > >>>>>>constantly moaning about the amount of memory reservated > >>>> > >>>>for dom0 and > >>>> > >>>>>>thus is rebooting again and again (the appropiate settings > >>>> > >>>>are given > >>>> > >>>>>>and correct). > >>>>> > >>>>>Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has > >>>> > >>>>ACPI and sems > >>>> > >>>>>to work fine for the almost everyone. > >>>>> > >>>>>Ian > >>>>> > >>>>>>I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at > >>>> > >>>>all .. then > >>>> > >>>>>>xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI > >>>> > >>>>functionality at all > >>>> > >>>>>>(which means lspci is empty and all my PCI devices do not > >>>> > >>>>work, even > >>>> > >>>>>>not if I try to load the appropiate driver manually). Again the > >>>>>>settings (config) are compiled in and correctly set (which simply > >>>>>>means I wasnt a jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). > >>>>>>I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another > >>>> > >>>>confirmation on my > >>>> > >>>>>>side, as far as the problerm above''s concerned, is that I tried > >>>>>>exactly the same kernel config (without the xen config symbols of > >>>>>>course) and compiled a vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. > >>>> > >>>>it boots up > >>>> > >>>>>>fine and PCI support is also given, while doing the same with a > >>>>>>xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci > >>>>>>non-functionality. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned above > >>>>>>would be appreciated. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>best regards, > >>>>>>Patrick > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>Xen-users mailing list > >>>>>>Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > >>>>>>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Patrick
2006-Jan-10 09:19 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
Hello, now thats one kind of reply I desired all the time, while Ian, although he tried to help did not refer to my problems at all, but was always searching the problem on my side. Anyway, I''ll try the xen standard config soon and will tell about wether it worked or not (PCI as well as ACPI related problems). I also know that SiS chipsets are often not known to work, but honestly I never had any problem with it running linux at all. Of course I was a bit rude, especially to Ian but I am working on that problems for a long time right now, I also tried to contact the dev''s via IRC without luck though, and then I tried contacting the ML while at first there wanst any response and later on the response I got was not referring to the problems I suffer from, so try to slipping into my skin a bit and hopefully you''ll be able to understand my behavior a bit :-) .. Anyway I attached the kernel config .. its quite standard and patched with pom-ng (netfilter stuff, also tried compiling and running without it) ... and currently its a bit chaotic, like with IDE chipset drivers, as at first I thought the problem could be related at that point, thats why I enabled all chipsets .. same with graphics devices ... Hopefully it''ll give you a lil'' impression about what''s going on .. but I am kinda sure its xen fault, especially the PCI issue. best regards, Patrick Mark Williamson wrote:>>thats rubbish .. if you cant tell me what should be up with my config, >>then better dont say anything at all. You even did not listen that I >>compiled a vanilla kernel with the kernel config that does NOT work with >>xen, but with the vanilal kernel PCI works goddamn fine. >> >> > >Running on Xen isn''t the same as running the vanilla kernel! Some options >that you can select on vanilla Linux will certainly break things on Xen, so >just trying the same config doesn''t necessarily mean there''s not a problem in >there somewhere. > > > >>Secondly, if you read my posts before more carefully then you''d know >>that my bios supports ACPI and that the xen kernel (although without >>PCI) boots but then it''s rebooting and saying that I didnt not allocated >>enough memory for the memory reservation of dom0 (while without apci >>enabled it doesnt do this and boots fine, just without PCI). >> >> > >OK, so that means something''s not working as it should, nobody disputes that. >It''s still not much information to go on, though. > >Not all ACPI implementations are equally well-behaved. It''s possible there''s >something odd about yours. > >If you try the -xen kernel config it provides a *reference point* for >debugging your other problems: all you have to do to provide this reference >point is build a kernel with the standard config, copy the kernel to the >right place and try booting. > > > >>Thus its neither a fault of my config nor of anything else that is >>related to my person, but only to xen and its faultiness. >> >> > >If Xen doesn''t work on your machine then it means either: a) something in your >config is producing unexpected behaviour or b) something unusual about your >hardware is producing unexpected behaviour. > >This problem doesn''t happen for other people, and nobody else has your machine >or your config, so unless you help us folks on the mailing list out in >diagnosing what''s wrong they''re not going to be *able* to help you get the >problem fixed (assuming they still want to). > >Cheers, >Mark > > > >>Patrick >> >>Ian Pratt wrote: >> >> >>>>FFS .. I do not care about ACPI .. now I ask you the _second >>>>time_ to refer to my PCI problem as without PCI nothing works at all. >>>> >>>> >>>If you use one of our kernels PCI will likely work fine. If you''ve got a >>>broken bios that doesn''t do acpi then disable it with acpi=off on the >>>xen command line. I''d much rather help you get something working with a >>>known good kernel than trying to second guess all the possible ways you >>>could have botched your own config... >>> >>>Ian >>> >>> >>> >>>>Patrick >>>> >>>>Ian Pratt wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>First of all .. as I said ACPI was the reason why my mashine was >>>>>>constantly rebooting as - if ACPI enabled - xen does did not detect >>>>>>the amount of RAM properly and thus is always claiming it wasnt >>>>>>enough. >>>>>>Sencondly, the xen kernel config is not that much different >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>to mine .. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>my kernel is just more lightweight tho. >>>>>>... >>>>>>ACPI isnt the main problem, could you please also refer to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>the second >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>problem, which is of much more importance to me? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Can you not just put ''acpi=off'' on the *xen* command line (not the >>>>>linux one)? >>>>> >>>>>Please try this with the -xen kernel. >>>>> >>>>>Ian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>best regards, >>>>>>Patrick >>>>>> >>>>>>Ian Pratt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>I just encountered that the xen 3.0 testing (from the mercurial >>>>>>>>repository) will not work if I have ACPI compiled into the kernel. >>>>>>>>Although the kernel will build properly, I cant boot it, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>as xen is >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>constantly moaning about the amount of memory reservated >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>for dom0 and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>thus is rebooting again and again (the appropiate settings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>are given >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>and correct). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>Any reason not to be using our -xen kernel config? It has >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>ACPI and sems >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>to work fine for the almost everyone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I confirmed this by NOT compiling ACPI into my kernel at >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>all .. then >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>xen boots up fine... BUT then I do not have PCI >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>functionality at all >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>(which means lspci is empty and all my PCI devices do not >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>work, even >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>not if I try to load the appropiate driver manually). Again the >>>>>>>>settings (config) are compiled in and correctly set (which simply >>>>>>>>means I wasnt a jerk and forgot compiling PCI support in tho). >>>>>>>>I am using sis5513 as mainboard chipset and another >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>confirmation on my >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>side, as far as the problerm above''s concerned, is that I tried >>>>>>>>exactly the same kernel config (without the xen config symbols of >>>>>>>>course) and compiled a vanilla 2.6.12.6 kernel manually .. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>it boots up >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>fine and PCI support is also given, while doing the same with a >>>>>>>>xen-patched kernel will not work at all and results in pci >>>>>>>>non-functionality. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Any further confirmation about the two problems I mentioned above >>>>>>>>would be appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>best regards, >>>>>>>>Patrick >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>Xen-users mailing list >>>>>>>>Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >>>>>>>>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Xen-users mailing list >>Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >>http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Frank Burkhardt
2006-Jan-10 11:45 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
Hi, On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:19:21AM +0100, Patrick wrote: [snip]> Hopefully it''ll give you a lil'' impression about what''s going on .. but I am kinda sure its xen > fault, especially the PCI issue.I''ve got a computer with SIS-chipset and Duron-CPU here. Same problem. Pure Linux works like a charm but Linux on Xen doesn''t work. Booting with ACPI enabled crashes instantly, booting without ACPI makes PCI disappear. BTW: * Xen 2.0.7 works on the same computer (only without ACPI). * The Xen-3-BootCD shows the same problem (Unable to boot dom0) * For Years I was running always the latest Linux-Kernel (2.4 and 2.6) but ACPI never caused any trouble Regards, Frank _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Ian Pratt
2006-Jan-10 14:53 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
> > Hopefully it''ll give you a lil'' impression about what''s going on .. > > but I am kinda sure its xen fault, especially the PCI issue. > > I''ve got a computer with SIS-chipset and Duron-CPU here. Same > problem. Pure Linux works like a charm but Linux on Xen > doesn''t work. Booting with ACPI enabled crashes instantly, > booting without ACPI makes PCI disappear. > > BTW: > * Xen 2.0.7 works on the same computer (only without ACPI). > * The Xen-3-BootCD shows the same problem (Unable to boot dom0) > * For Years I was running always the latest Linux-Kernel > (2.4 and 2.6) but ACPI never caused any troublePlease can you get a serial line on the machine and post a diff on the native kernel on the xen test CD booting vs. one of the linux-on-xen combos. Thanks, Ian _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Patrick
2006-Jan-11 21:02 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
Hello, I just tried using a xen standard config aswell .. it did result in _exactly_ the same which means booting the dom0 kernel will have an end because of a kernel panic caused by ACPI .. and if I use acpi=off then dom0 will boot but I do not have PCI support at all. As I said in my first mail .. its a problem related to xen not related to my kernel config. best regards, Patrick Ian Pratt wrote:>>>Hopefully it''ll give you a lil'' impression about what''s going on .. >>>but I am kinda sure its xen fault, especially the PCI issue. >>> >>> >>I''ve got a computer with SIS-chipset and Duron-CPU here. Same >>problem. Pure Linux works like a charm but Linux on Xen >>doesn''t work. Booting with ACPI enabled crashes instantly, >>booting without ACPI makes PCI disappear. >> >>BTW: >> * Xen 2.0.7 works on the same computer (only without ACPI). >> * The Xen-3-BootCD shows the same problem (Unable to boot dom0) >> * For Years I was running always the latest Linux-Kernel >> (2.4 and 2.6) but ACPI never caused any trouble >> >> > >Please can you get a serial line on the machine and post a diff on the >native kernel on the xen test CD booting vs. one of the linux-on-xen >combos. > >Thanks, >Ian > >_______________________________________________ >Xen-users mailing list >Xen-users@lists.xensource.com >http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Vincent Hanquez
2006-Jan-12 00:51 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:02:58PM +0100, Patrick wrote:> Hello, > I just tried using a xen standard config aswell .. it did result in > _exactly_ the same which means booting the dom0 kernel will have an end > because of a kernel panic caused by ACPI .. and if I use acpi=off then > dom0 will boot but I do not have PCI support at all. > > As I said in my first mail .. its a problem related to xen not related > to my kernel config. > >Please can you get a serial line on the machine and post a diff on the > >native kernel on the xen test CD booting vs. one of the linux-on-xen > >combos.If you don''t follow the debug instruction people tell you, nobody will be able to magicly find what''s the problem with Xen. You have just repeated your previous mail here, which doesn''t give us more insight. Ian asks you a bootlog of both a native kernel and a xen kernel. the thing needed has nothing to do with kernel configs anymore .. -- Vincent Hanquez _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Patrick
2006-Jan-12 06:03 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
Wrong. Ian did not tell me this, but Frank Burkhardt who seems to have exactly the same problem than I do. Anyway I cant get a serial line on the mashine as its a dedicated mashine and theres no possibility to get a serial line on it. best regards, Patrick Vincent Hanquez wrote:>On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:02:58PM +0100, Patrick wrote: > > >>Hello, >>I just tried using a xen standard config aswell .. it did result in >>_exactly_ the same which means booting the dom0 kernel will have an end >>because of a kernel panic caused by ACPI .. and if I use acpi=off then >>dom0 will boot but I do not have PCI support at all. >> >>As I said in my first mail .. its a problem related to xen not related >>to my kernel config. >> >> >>>Please can you get a serial line on the machine and post a diff on the >>>native kernel on the xen test CD booting vs. one of the linux-on-xen >>>combos. >>> >>> > >If you don''t follow the debug instruction people tell you, nobody will >be able to magicly find what''s the problem with Xen. > >You have just repeated your previous mail here, which doesn''t give us more >insight. Ian asks you a bootlog of both a native kernel and a xen kernel. >the thing needed has nothing to do with kernel configs anymore .. > > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Frank Burkhardt
2006-Jan-12 08:07 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] xen 3.0 testing ACPI problems / no PCI functionality
Hi, On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 07:03:05AM +0100, Patrick wrote:> Wrong. Ian did not tell me this, but Frank Burkhardt who seems to have exactly the same problem > than I do. Anyway I cant get a serial line on the mashine as its a dedicated mashine and theres > no possibility to get a serial line on it.Sorry for the delay. I didn''t have physical access to the machine, yet. I will have next saturday and the serial console should not be a problem. Regards, Frank _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users