StarCraftMaster:>The card can play far cry 1 on medium graphics ,its not that bad. >A lot of cards dont support directx 9(graphics not drivers and meaning older >cards). >Also lot of people still haver older cards, therefore wine is quite useless if >it don't support older cards as most people get older(from freinds or family) >computers and install linux insted of buying windows. >A card that does not support DirectX9 or DirectX 10 is considered by most gamers useless. They decide to 'upgrade' and do so. Newer cards that support both of these are not that expensive and actually make the older games play better.>also the card does support Z-bufferThis is unusual. I also noticed that you are using very old drivers which may or may not work with Wine very well. The key is to upgrade the card and drivers. James McKenzie
the open gl support for the card is fine also the newest drivers are the drivers i got also this is a PCI board no agp or pci e most pci cards can be $100 aus and is just not worth it maybe i should try cedega ?
> the open gl support for the card is fine > also the newest drivers are the drivers i got > > also this is a PCI board >There is your problem. You did not mention that. There is no way this ancient card will work well with wine on the PCI bus. John
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:52 AM, John Drescher <drescherjm at gmail.com> wrote:>> the open gl support for the card is fine >> also the newest drivers are the drivers i got >> >> also this is a PCI board >> > There is your problem. You did not mention that. There is no way this > ancient card will work well with wine on the PCI bus. >I guess you did mention that "Aopen Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 440 SE PCI" on July 19th sorry. John
whats wrong with pci ? its slow but it can run starcraft lol
> whats wrong with pci ?Too slow. Plus your card is slow. The combination of the two and the extra work wine needs to do turning directx calls to opengl will yield bad performance. John
starcraftmaster wrote:> maybe i should try cedega ?Cedega is never an option. Their codebase is based on an old version of Wine and they never contribute their code back to the Wine community. Plus games usually work better in Wine than in Cedega.
DaVince wrote:> > starcraftmaster wrote: > > maybe i should try cedega ? > > Cedega is never an option. Their codebase is based on an old version of Wine and they never contribute their code back to the Wine community. Plus games usually work better in Wine than in Cedega.While I do not like Transgaming splitting off and not contributing back anymore... Cedega and Cider has come a long way... I use hacked versions of Cider to run a lot of games that Wine cannot run at all, or nearly as good. Cider is just Mac OS X closer to native version of Cedega special made for developers to use to make official Mac versions of Win-only products.... but yes, most of the time Wine is better in its current form
John Drescher wrote:> > > whats wrong with pci ? > > > > Too slow. Plus your card is slow. The combination of the two and the > extra work wine needs to do turning directx calls to opengl will yield > bad performance. > > Johnbut starcraft is so old its uses 8 bit color and 640x480 res if a card that can run games like farcry fine on windows but cant run a 10 year old 2d game on wine then wine is a pointless project for games
starcraftmaster wrote:> > John Drescher wrote: > > > > > whats wrong with pci ? > > > > > > > Too slow. Plus your card is slow. The combination of the two and the > > extra work wine needs to do turning directx calls to opengl will yield > > bad performance. > > > > John > > > but starcraft is so old > its uses 8 bit color and 640x480 res > > if a card that can run games like farcry fine on windows but cant run a 10 year old 2d game on wine then wine is a pointless project for gamesWindows supports old hardware. Wine supports old programs on relatively new hardware. 8 year old video card is not relatively new, it would not be a good use of time to try and make things work with hardware next to no one uses and that is no longer supported by the manufacturer. Of course, anyone is free to improve the situation if they think they can. If Windows suits your purpose just fine, what are you complaining about?
starcraftmaster wrote:> > but starcraft is so old > its uses 8 bit color and 640x480 res > > if a card that can run games like farcry fine on windows but cant run a 10 year old 2d game on wine then wine is a pointless project for gamesLooking back in this thread, the Windows version you are talking about is ME. That is a nine year old OS, which you are comparing to current Wine on a present-day distro. Try running your game in Vista on that hardware and let us know how that works out.
in vista they would work fine because i would turn all of its crap off and tweak it much as possible but am not going to do that as i cant be borthered and ubuntu dont take that much power so it should work fine but wine got problems quote:If Windows suits your purpose just fine, what are you complaining about? i dont like restarting into windows