Apple would make a great strike against Microsoft if they help wine get better. With wine running almost all windows applications, Steve Jobs can make call to Bill Gates and say him that the world don't need Windows anymore. [Twisted Evil]
would be nice if more companies, including Apple helped support Wine. The biggest help Apple could do is write a good Quartz driver so Wine wouldn't have to use X11 on OSX. The problem is the Apple way of doing things, and the way most Apple users like things don't really mesh with the way the people who run Wine likes to run and have things. If Wine was on a different license, Apple might have already grabbed it up to make their own version.... which would of only benefited OSX.
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, fernandocarvalho wrote:> Then we should focus on Linux support only.No. We should seek to make sure that Wine is portable to all flavors of Unix whether or not Apple offers help. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
jorl117:>fernandocarvalho wrote: >> Then we should focus on Linux support only. > > >This is something I have to disagree with. Mac users should never pay because >some developer didn't like that operating system -- that's just being silly. I >think that Wine should support every possible operating system. Of course that >if too many changes have to be made to fit a particular system, then it is the >project leader who has to decide if he accepts them and if the team should put >so much effort into a port. >Mac users are used to getting 'soaked' for applications that Windows users pay much less for. However, support for Wine should continue for the Mac to include more native version, which appears to have stopped work. (BTW, after you get past the fancy interface, MacOSX is a flavor of UNIX.) James McKenzie
James Mckenzie wrote:> jorl117: > > > > fernandocarvalho wrote: > > > > > Then we should focus on Linux support only. > > > > > > > > > This is something I have to disagree with. Mac users should never pay because > > some developer didn't like that operating system -- that's just being silly. I > > think that Wine should support every possible operating system. Of course that > > if too many changes have to be made to fit a particular system, then it is the > > project leader who has to decide if he accepts them and if the team should put > > so much effort into a port. > > > > > Mac users are used to getting 'soaked' for applications that Windows users pay much less for. However, support for Wine should continue for the Mac to include more native version, which appears to have stopped work. > > (BTW, after you get past the fancy interface, MacOSX is a flavor of UNIX.) > > James McKenzieTrue, but that doesn't mean that we all have do that, just like you said. Oh and of course the MacOSX is a flavor of UNIX :) As far as I know part of it (I believe the kernel) is open-sourced).
fernandocarvalho wrote:> Then, what about Sun support in the project? > They are using wine code in VirtualBox project, so it would be nice if they help wine getting better.VMware and Parallels use Wine code in their VMs too...
But as many companies get involved in the project we will do more advance in getting a replacement for Windows. I want to know how the wine license works and if the companies that use it give the changes they do on the code, back to the project?
http://wiki.winehq.org/Licensing If anyone makes modifications to the code, they are supposed to release the source back, available with their product, or an offer to make it available.
If the modification is given back to the project, why cedega has a larger compatibility set of games than wine?