This just an FYI. Yesterday I updated to top of trunk wine and rebuilt and installed. I have a Ford Service CD (for 1999 models) and wine on the exe does not work (on an old Windows ME laptop it all works). The startup.exe sort of seems to work AFAICT, but when it's done and the app exe started the app exe ( installed on disk) cannot seem to find the cd (the app needs the CD, the install does not install everything, just the app and some basic stuff, the CD has to be mounted to actually use the app). Some buttons seem to get ignored (some work too, minimally). I know this is a sort of vague report (sorry). But I thought I would mention it. Maybe someone has a hint for me. David Anderson.
On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 09:18 -0700, David Anderson wrote: open an xterm, cd to the setup directory, and run the setup program from there this way WINEDEBUG=+loaddll wine ThatProgram.exe that failing, try with this sort of thing WINEDEBUG=+loaddll wine Z:\\media\\FORDCD\\Setup.exe Then you get meaty errors in the xterm, and give us some of those. -- Declan Moriarty <junk_mail@iol.ie>> This just an FYI. > > Yesterday I updated to top of trunk wine and rebuilt and installed. > > I have a Ford Service CD (for 1999 models) and wine on the exe does not > work > (on an old Windows ME laptop it all works). > > The startup.exe sort of seems to work AFAICT, but when it's done and the > app exe started > the app exe ( installed on disk) cannot seem to find > the cd (the app needs the CD, the install does not install everything, > just the app and some basic stuff, > the CD has to be mounted to actually use the app). Some buttons seem > to get ignored (some > work too, minimally). > > I know this is a sort of vague report (sorry). But I thought I would > mention it. > Maybe someone has a hint for me. > David Anderson.
> From: Declan Moriarty <junk_mail@iol.ie> > > open an xterm, cd to the setup directory, and run the setup program from > there this way > > WINEDEBUG=+loaddll wine ThatProgram.exe > > >===========the session [16]: bash [davea@quasar2 programs]$ WINEDEBUG=+loaddll wine VIEW16.EXE trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"kernel32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"kernel32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\winevdm.exe" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\advapi32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\gdi32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\user32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "krnl386.exe" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "system.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "gdi.exe" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "user.exe" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\winex11.drv" : builtin libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\imm32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\winedos.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\winmm.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\wineoss.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\msacm32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\msacm32.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\midimap.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "mmsystem.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "comm.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "display.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "keyboard.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "mouse.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "sound.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\VIEW16.EXE" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "win87em.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C4DLL.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "COMPAPI.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "LTKRN61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "LTFIL61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\shlwapi.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\comctl32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\shell32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\winspool.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\comdlg32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\uxtheme.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\iphlpapi.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\rpcrt4.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\ole32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "commdlg.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "shell.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFFAX61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFCMP61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFTIF61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFTGA61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFBMP61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFPCX61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFCAL61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFGIF61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFPNG61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFWMF61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFEPS61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFPSD61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFMAC61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFIMG61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFMSP61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFWPG61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFRAS61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFPCT61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFWFX61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFICA61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "PCDLIB.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFPCD61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFLMA61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\LFLMB61W.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"kernel32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\explorer.exe" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\advapi32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\gdi32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\user32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "krnl386.exe" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "system.drv" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "gdi.exe" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "user.exe" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\winex11.drv" : builtin libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\imm32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:load_builtin_dll Loaded module L"c:\\windows\\system32\\ctl3d32.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "ctl3dv2.dll" : builtin trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "ARCHIVE.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "relres.dll" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "GUIDEIO.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "AUGMAN.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "grdll.dll" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "GUIDERES.DLL" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\Guide4\\logiix.exe" : native trace:loaddll:MODULE_LoadModule16 Loaded module "C:\\FORD\\PUBS\\programs\\Guide4\\gimage.dll" : native ==============The GUI seems not to recognize that the CD *is* loaded. [5]: cd .wine [6]: ls dosdevices drive_c system.reg userdef.reg user.reg [7]: cd dos* [8]: ls c: c:~ d:: e: e:: f: f:: z: z:~ [9]: ls -l* ls: No match. [10]: ls * d:: e: e:: f:: c:: FORD milliken my documents Program Files windows c:~: FORD milliken my documents Program Files windows f:: APPDATA EVTM MMEDIA RELDATA SETUP.INS APPS INSTALL.EXE PCED SERVICE WINSTALL z:: bin dev etc lib media mnt opt root selinux sys usr boot dx home lost+found misc net proc sbin srv tmp var z:~: bin dev etc lib media mnt opt root selinux sys usr boot dx home lost+found misc net proc sbin srv tmp var [11]: The f:: drive contents above is the CD itself, but the software does not seem to notice it. Clicking on the 'cancel' button does work and I could exit the app. (the dlls unloaded not shown here). The app just won't do anything useful... thanks in advance for any suggestions. DavidAnderson
Saturday April 21 2007 16:18?David Anderson ????????:> the app exe ( installed on disk) cannot seem to find > the cdDo you have correct CD-ROM setup in Wine? Run winecfg, go to "Drives" tab, choose CD/DVD drive from which you installed your application, click "Show Advanced" and set "Type" to CD-ROM then click Apply or OK. Please note that some applications check for its CDs ONLY drive from which they were installed (this is actually application's bug not Wine') but most applications check all your CD-ROM drives (this is correct and fortunatelly typical behavior). If this doesn't work for you, try to install nocd crack if available. If this doesn't help either (for example, there is no nocd hack available) you may try CrossOver or even Cedega. Unfortunatelly Cedega is based on very old Wine code so it supports much less applications than Wine or CrossOver but it include support for copy protections that some applications uses (including a lot of games).
Sunday April 22 2007 23:11?David Anderson ????????:> L. Rahyen wrote: > > Saturday April 21 2007 16:18?David Anderson ????????: > >> the app exe ( installed on disk) cannot seem to find > >> the cd > > > > Do you have correct CD-ROM setup in Wine? > > Run winecfg, go to "Drives" tab, choose CD/DVD drive from which you > > installed your application, click "Show Advanced" and set "Type" to > > CD-ROM then click Apply or OK. Please note that some applications check > > for its CDs ONLY drive from which they were installed (this is actually > > application's bug not Wine') but most applications check all your CD-ROM > > drives (this is correct and fortunatelly typical behavior). > > If this doesn't work for you, try to install nocd crack if > > available. If this doesn't help either (for example, there is no nocd > > hack available) you may try CrossOver or even Cedega. Unfortunatelly > > Cedega is based on very old Wine code so it supports much less > > applications than Wine or CrossOver but it include support for copy > > protections that some applications uses (including a lot of games). > > Well setting Type did not help. (2 CDs on the machine, but > they behave identically for this app, I tried setting Type with both). > The CD is legally purchased (it is not a copy of a CD but is a > real Ford CD) . It worked fine on Windows ME. There is no 'password'. > > Thanks for the suggestions though. > David AndersonThen this is problem with copy protection, a lot of copy protection systems doesn't work yet under Wine. You should try Cedega if running this application is important to you, but as I said Cedega is much worse than Wine, but it have support for more copy protection systems. P.S. Don't forget to CC to the list so others can see the discussion.