Even though wine versions get released often and the weekly newsletters seem to report progress I get the impression that wine is not really improving. Of course it happens that some applications work with newer wine versions which didn't work with older ones, but at the same time old applications stop working. Is it only me that gets the impression that wine only changes over time, but doesn't improve? Philipp
Well, it's not the impression I have. I guess your impression is, as mine, based on a quite small applications sample, that is not really representative. Maybe none of them use features that are actively developped in wine for now (Direct3D, TWAIN, RPC ...), and maybe you won't see a bug fix that corrected many apps but broke one of yours. You will say "there's less apps working" whereas there will be a bunch of new working apps. Or maybe you're waiting for a long time for one of your apps to work properly, and you don't see any improvement. Every new version of wine, you launch your app, and you see exactly the same behaviour. If this is the case, you should read this : http://www.winehq.com/site/howto Don't worry, wine does improve ! Philipp Klaus Krause a ecrit :> Even though wine versions get released often and the weekly newsletters > seem to report progress I get the impression that wine is not really > improving. > Of course it happens that some applications work with newer wine > versions which didn't work with older ones, but at the same time old > applications stop working. > Is it only me that gets the impression that wine only changes over time, > but doesn't improve? > > Philipp > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users@winehq.org > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users >-- Colin Pitrat http://www.framasoft.net/ D?couvrez la signification du mot libert?.
On 17 Jun 2006 at 16:10, Colin Pitrat wrote:> Well, it's not the impression I have. I guess your impression is, as > mine, based on a quite small applications sample, that is not really > representative. Maybe none of them use features that are actively > developped in wine for now (Direct3D, TWAIN, RPC ...), and maybe you > won't see a bug fix that corrected many apps but broke one of yours. > You will say "there's less apps working" whereas there will be a bunch > of new working apps.That is exactly my problem.> > Or maybe you're waiting for a long time for one of your apps to work > properly, and you don't see any improvement. Every new version of > wine, you launch your app, and you see exactly the same behaviour. If > this is the case, you should read this : > http://www.winehq.com/site/howtoYes I have. I regularly post my testing results in the AppDB and bugs in bugzilla for my target app (MS Money 2004). I have responded to request that I do regression testing but I have come to dead end with a problem that no one has got back to me on. I will help all I can but I am limited in my own technical knowledge.> > Don't worry, wine does improve ! >This depends on your viewpoint ... Tony
On 17 Jun 2006 at 15:25, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote:> Even though wine versions get released often and the weekly > newsletters seem to report progress I get the impression that wine is > not really improving. Of course it happens that some applications work > with newer wine versions which didn't work with older ones, but at the > same time old applications stop working. Is it only me that gets the > impression that wine only changes over time, but doesn't improve? >I get the same impression, but I have to realise that I have my own agenda - i.e I want to get a few Windows apps working reliably in Wine on a long term basis so I can migrate to Linux completely. My 'killer' apps are MS Money 2004 (which currently is broken) and a UK tax calculation package (which I have only just started to look at under Wine). However, I get the impression that games get a lot more attention and excite the devlopers more than my boring business apps. I can't complain. Except for the contributions of Codeweavers, all the developers are volunteers and we cannot (must not) make them feel obliged to sort out our specific problems. Tony
Philipp Klaus Krause wrote:> Even though wine versions get released often and the weekly newsletters > seem to report progress I get the impression that wine is not really > improving. > Of course it happens that some applications work with newer wine > versions which didn't work with older ones, but at the same time old > applications stop working.What you don't see, perhaps, is that they do become working aps with a bit of fiddling. Folks tend to post the problems not the fixes!> Is it only me that gets the impression that wine only changes over time, > but doesn't improve?I completely disagree.> > PhilippIt has been my experience that the Wine programmers seem to really care about fixing issues. They may tend to expend more effort on things that interest them but, hey, they're volunteers.
On 2006-06-17, <pkk@spth.de> wrote:> Even though wine versions get released often and the weekly newsletters > seem to report progress I get the impression that wine is not really > improving.I tend to run conservative Debian distrubutions, but Wine always seems to be improving for me. I am not a poweruser or anything, though.> Is it only me that gets the impression that wine only changes over time, > but doesn't improve?I don't get that impression. -- ...I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building W., October 12, 2000.